# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 88
**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1764 "2024-10-12T01:20:02Z")
This is interesting. Maybe it is only a publicity stunt but I dunno…Cards Against Humanity has already sued Musk once. They seem committed: Full Title: **Cards Against Humanity offers payouts to new swing-state voters, responding to Musk’s PAC** > **[Cards Against Humanity offers payouts to new swing-state voters, responding...](https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/cards-humanity-offers-payouts-new-swing-state-voters-responding-musks-rcna174957)** > > The progressive card game company is paying new voters who come up with plans and disparage Donald Trump online. > The company behind the game Cards Against Humanity is aiming to one-up Elon Musk with its plan to pay blue-leaning swing-state residents who make voting plans and agree to publicly condemn Donald Trump. > > The company announced an initiative Tuesday to encourage people who didn’t vote in 2020 to go to the polls this year by handing out up to $100. > > \< snip \> > > “If you’re a registered voter in PA, GA, NV, AZ, NC, WI, or MI, just type your name into this dumb website for his PAC, put ‘MuskIsDumb@cah.lol’ as your referrer, and they’ll be legally obligated to pay us $47,” the Cards Against Humanity website said. “If he doesn’t pay up, we’ll sue him again.” ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2024, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1765 "2024-10-12T02:59:00Z")
I _love_ that. You go, CAH! ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1766 "2024-10-14T01:00:52Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Right now, it seems to me that Milton is pointed to a Democratic area. Above all else hoping for a fast recovery to ALL in Florida. My mother-in-law was not there but owns a condo on a barrier island a bit south of Sarasota and the property damage to the island is horrific. That said, this is a thread to discuss political impacts. And checking the storm’s path with county by county results from 2016 [here](https://www.politico.com/2020-election/results/florida/), it seems to have hit some of the more densely populated GOP leaning counties hard. Manatee, Sarasota, Charlotte, Lee, Brevard … Hillsborough (more D) didn’t seem to get damaged as much as Polk (more R). Palm Beach (leans D) saw a few tornados but nothing widespread sounds like. @flurb you seem to have the most knowledge - just in terms of voter turnout while dealing with critical issues, what’s your take? (Ignore the NYT poll that places FL way out of reach for the sake of this discussion.) How much impact does the Trump misinformation have on opinion across the state, even region? ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1767 "2024-10-14T01:31:15Z")
Appreciate the shout out, but I can’t claim any special knowledge or insight on how the particular path of Milton may impact the election. It could depress Republican turnout because it hit largely Republican counties. It could disproportionately impact Democratic turnout if D-leaning constituencies within the region are disproportionately impacted (e.g. poor people dealing with the aftermath may be less likely to prioritize voting than their more well-off neighbors). The one thing I know is that Ron DeSantis will use every authority available to him (and then some) to ensure that Republican-leaning communities have the chance to vote. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1768 "2024-10-14T02:17:59Z")
Some information on Helene’s possible voter impact in GA and more so NC. > **[Voter turnout could suffer in hurricane-hit areas of swing states; bad news...](https://abc3340.com/amp/news/nation-world/voter-turnout-could-suffer-in-hurricane-hit-areas-of-swing-states-bad-news-for-gop-2024-election-harris-trump-politics-natural-disasters-helene-milton-florida-georgia-north-carolina)** > > Hurricane Helene could impact voter turnout in two swing states and in a way that could hurt Republicans, according to a politics expert. Cannot yet find any sort of similar analysis for Milton. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1769 "2024-10-14T02:27:13Z")
I’m curious what legal grounds the Trump campaign will have (think they have) to contest the results in GA and NC if Harris carries those states. Hopefully they won’t be the tipping point if Harris gets 270+ EVs. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1770 "2024-10-14T03:56:37Z")
Naturally he’s changed his tune _again_ on voting by mail. > **[Trump spread conspiracies on mail-in voting for years. Now his campaign is...](https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/13/politics/trump-mail-in-voting/index.html)** > > Donald Trump’s campaign is making a last-minute push to advocate for early and mail-in voting, methods the former president has falsely vilified for years as dangerous and fraudulent. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1771 "2024-10-14T13:57:56Z")
Given the lack of any more well informed opinions I am going to speculate some about hurricanes, Florida, recent poll results, and the election. I am _increasingly_ almost expecting a surprisingly close result in FL, maybe even an upset. Partly _because_ of the recent polling result. “Say what?” you ask? One I think the NYT result is an outlier. Yes it could the correct view, but its model for polling this year may be the mistaken one. And I am also keeping my head in the space of expecting that this year the systemic error favors Harris. But the perception is increasingly that FL is safe for Trump. And in parts of FL that are not the heavily D Miami-Dade, Pam Beach, and Broward counties, there are other things to think about in hurricane aftermath other than voting, especially given that the election is in the bag. If the presidential election is what is your biggest motivation to vote, that is. OTOH, there are Democratic leaning voters across the state still highly motivated to get their votes in on the abortion referendum. Inconveniences and other things to worry about be damned. That’s _still_ important to them. And they will disproportionately happen to also vote Harris. Of course the NYT may have the better model, the systemic error may not favor Harris, and the anti-Choice voters may care more than the pro-choice ones. Still if I was team Harris I’d be throwing resources into the abortion referendum groups’ coffers, keeping the presidential choice itself low key. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1772 "2024-10-14T19:21:01Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > I am _increasingly_ almost expecting a surprisingly close result in FL, maybe even an upset. Partly _because_ of the recent polling result. I have said I am hopeful about Florida. Mind you- “possible” not “probable”. I have noted that abortion and pot are on the ballot, this often brings out stay at homes to vote. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1773 "2024-10-14T20:35:31Z")
Harris is doing an interview on Fox News this Wednesday, which is sure to drive Trump up the wall. > **[VP Kamala Harris to sit down with chief political anchor Bret Baier for first...](https://www.foxnews.com/media/vp-kamala-harris-sit-down-chief-political-anchor-bret-baier-first-formal-fox-news-interview)** > > Vice President Kamala Harris will sit down with Fox News Channel’s chief political anchor Bret Baier on Wednesday for her first formal interview on the network. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1774 "2024-10-14T21:48:41Z")
My first thought is, not really the smartest idea (assuming Fox will creatively edit the footage). But the more I think about it, it’s another plus for her. She can brag that she did an interview in a hostile environment, while Trump was too chicken to do the same. Probably won’t convince any die hard Trumpers but it can be more proof to the “undecideds” about how she’s the better choice. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1775 "2024-10-14T22:46:14Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > My first thought is, not really the smartest idea (assuming Fox will creatively edit the footage). I may be wrong, but from what I’ve seen, Bret Baier has some concept of being a real journalist, not just a propaganda spewer. He’s still biased and leans conservative, but he isn’t Tucker Carlson or the bulk of the loudmouths at Fox. Now what Fox does after the interview is a separate matter. ---
**Author:** ![Biffster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biffster/32/339_2.png) [@Biffster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffster)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1776 "2024-10-14T22:51:06Z")
Gotta give Harris credit for at least giving it a shot. More than chicken-shit Trump anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [October 14, 2024, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1777 "2024-10-14T23:06:54Z")
And predictably enough, someone needs his diaper changed; > **[Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)](https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113307813323475581)** > > Lyin’ Kamala Harris has wisely chosen Bret Baier, of FoxNews, to do a much needed interview, because he is considered to be “Fair & Balanced,” though often very soft to those on the “cocktail circuit” Left. I would have preferred seeing a more... ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1778 "2024-10-15T00:05:37Z")
Walz held his own on Fox just fine. Harris will too. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1779 "2024-10-15T00:18:57Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Bret Baier has some concept of being a real journalist Baier is the probably the only talking head on Fox that is an actual journalist. I actually don’t mind watching his reports and interviews. Neal Cavuto is also somewhat sane. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1780 "2024-10-15T00:36:36Z")
Baier’s not the worst of the lot, but he took a hit when texts of his leaked showing that he lobbied Fox to reverse its election night call of Arizona for Biden and to otherwise slow walk calling the election for Biden. Fox has always tried to argue that there’s a divide between their “straight news” and opinion/commentary operations, but in the final equation they’re all going to do whatever gooses their viewership (and advertising income) the most. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1781 "2024-10-15T00:49:48Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > Now what Fox does after the interview is a separate matter. As well as what questions Baier may be told to ask, aside from his own. I can imagine many Fox viewers just sitting this out. Certainly wouldn’t change any of their minds if they _did_ watch, but, if it turns out, say, I dunno 2,500(?) viewers switched their vote, I wouldn’t complain. I’d like to see a Yamiche Alcindor / Trump i-view. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1782 "2024-10-15T03:04:14Z")
> [@flurb](#): > > Baier’s not the worst of the lot, but he took a hit when texts of his leaked showing that he lobbied Fox to reverse its election night call of Arizona for Biden and to otherwise slow walk calling the election for Biden. Yes, I caught a mention of that on wikipedia. Like I said, he _is_ biased - he works at Fox. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1783 "2024-10-15T05:36:33Z")
One issue of note is that, according to a [CBS poll](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-harris-poll-how-information-beliefs-shape-tight-2024-campaign/), only 66% of Kamala voters think the economy is good, while 87% of Trump voters think it is bad. So Kamala voters are trailing Trump voters in fervor-of-belief on this. There is an enthusiasm gap on the economy. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=87) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=89)