# Kamala Harris and the runup to the 2024 Presidential Election {No more on Guns} **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [July 22, 2024, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571 "2024-07-22T00:39:59Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1944 "2024-10-22T15:12:07Z")
The people whose votes are going to motivated by her intersectional identities, either way, already are aware of what they are. Then there are those who don’t particularly care that she shares an identity with them, might roll eyes if she advertised it as a reason to support her, but who really get motivated by someone else disrespecting that identity. ---
**Author:** ![Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kolak_of_twilo/32/73_2.png) [@Kolak\_of\_Twilo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolak_of_Twilo)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1945 "2024-10-22T15:56:48Z")
Exactly my point. The nastiness of what DJT says could get some people to the polls who might not bother normally. ---
**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1946 "2024-10-22T15:58:22Z")
Yeah. There are some people who would be turned off by being told “you should vote for her because she’s a woman/Black/Indian” – but who are also turned off by being told “you should vote against her because she’s a woman/Black/Indian”. The problem with saying the quiet stuff out loud is that it isn’t only the ones who agree with it who hear you. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1947 "2024-10-22T16:07:46Z")
I think another thing that blunts the message about how historic that would be is that she has already been VP for the past four years, and when she took that job she became the first female/Black/SE Asian VP in history. So this is just an upgrade. It makes it feel a little less unprecedented and therefore palatable. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2024, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1948 "2024-10-22T19:27:40Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > She has made at least 17 foreign trips, and met with Zelensky at least five times. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 9:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1949 "2024-10-23T09:54:06Z")
In lighter news, the Insane Clown Posse has endorsed Kamala. From what little I know juggalos are pretty chill, so this makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 10:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1950 "2024-10-23T10:57:08Z")
Whoop, as they say, whoop. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1951 "2024-10-23T10:58:15Z")
MAGAts, how do they work? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1952 "2024-10-23T13:23:12Z")
Genius, even if you left off the “fucking”. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1953 "2024-10-23T14:07:02Z")
I wasn’t sure how much profanity is allowed in P&Q. Also “Fucking MAGAts, how do they work” can be misread so easily. 😁 ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1954 "2024-10-23T14:10:34Z")
haha true that. ---
**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1955 "2024-10-23T14:37:24Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > “Fucking MAGAts, how do they work” They close down the whole restaurant, and only serve people who already love them, duh. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1956 "2024-10-23T15:41:22Z")
I’m seeing a story in a few places that a prominent local Muslim Democrat was escorted out of a Harris rally yesterday in Michigan by an alleged campaign staffer (or else a “staffer at the venue”, reports seem to differ), met at the door going out by two cops to make sure he actually left, and got no answer to his question about why he was being ejected. The Harris campaign is now trying to walk this back, saying it wasn’t authorized. Lots of local Muslim protests in Michigan. A bad thing to happen under current conditions. > **[Harris campaign 'regrets' removal of Muslim Democrat at rally, says he's...](https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2024/10/22/harris-campaign-regrets-muslims-removal-from-rally-says-hes-welcome/75796758007/)** > > Ahmed Ghanim, a former U.S. House candidate, was shocked when he was kicked out of a Kamala Harris rally Monday at the Royal Oak Musical Theatre. ---
**Author:** ![robby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robby/32/11048_2.png) [@robby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robby)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1957 "2024-10-23T16:20:50Z")
I hope Harris (or at least someone from her campaign) personally reaches out to that person who was wrongfully ejected from the rally. In other news, I’ve been out of the country for the past ten days, and have been blissfully unaware of all of the latest election-related news. One person who brought up the campaign to me in Santorini, Greece did express surprise that the election was so close. I responded that the media loves a horse race. Anyway, I got back yesterday, and have been catching up. And just donated another $250 to Harris’s campaign. I hope this donation is not too late to help. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2024, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1958 "2024-10-23T18:06:53Z")
> [@robby](#): > > I hope this donation is not too late to help. If nothing else, it’ll help fund the lawyers post-election. (On preview, that might sound snarky, but I don’t mean it that way. Getting past the nuisance suits is very important.) ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1959 "2024-10-24T00:44:32Z")
Just a heads-up if anybody is interested. Kamala Harris is holding a Town Hall on CNN at 9 pm Eastern tonight. Thought I’d mention it, if you want to hear more from her. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 12:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1960 "2024-10-24T12:00:19Z")
We watched it. I thought she did fine, not great, but at least she showed up, unlike Chicken Man. What I didn’t like was the panel discussion afterwards. Dana Bash said something like “yes she’s being held to a different standard, but that’s the world we live in.” NO! Talk about why Trump being held to a different standard is bullshit! John King (I think) said something like “We’re critiquing her performance because she’s the one who decided to participate.” Yeah, why not talk more about how Trump was too chicken to share a stage with her again? Don’t just mention it in passing then drop it. I liked how they showed her mingling with the crowd afterwards, and in particular when she took the time to talk to the pro-life Republican guy. It showed how she tries to connect with voters on a personal level. If Trump had been there he wouldn’t have been out working the crowd afterwards, he’d have gone straight back to the spin room and started crowing about how he won. ---
**Author:** ![Win\_Place\_Show](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/win_place_show/32/13469_2.png) [@Win\_Place\_Show](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Win_Place_Show)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1961 "2024-10-24T12:13:18Z")
Thank you for the summary. I didn’t get a chance to watch it, so I had no idea how it went, and didn’t know whether to be nervous about how little “airplay” it was getting in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1962 "2024-10-24T13:11:37Z")
If you watched the debate or any of her recent stump speeches, it was pretty much the same material, just presented to potential swing voters who “still don’t know enough about her”. 🙄 Anderson Cooper, for some reason, got a bug up his butt about trying to get her to admit that Trump’s border wall wasn’t such a dumb idea after all because now she’s endorsing immigration reform that includes more border wall money. She responded by talking about how Trump promised to get Mexico to pay for it (and how well that worked out), how little of it actually got built, and how when he posed for photo ops at the wall it was in front of sections that were built during Obama’s term. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2024, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571/1963 "2024-10-24T13:18:34Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > She responded by talking about how Trump promised to get Mexico to pay for it (and how well that worked out), how little of it actually got built, and how when he posed for photo ops at the wall it was in front of sections that were built during Obama’s term. Based on that summary, it sounds like she handled it just fine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harris-and-the-runup-to-the-2024-presidential-election-no-more-on-guns/1004571.md?page=98)