# Kamala Harris's choice of Tim Walz as VP **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [August 6, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352 "2024-08-06T21:19:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/323 "2024-08-09T18:35:59Z")
TIL that! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/324 "2024-08-09T18:40:38Z")
> **[Tim Walz Signed Law Protecting Pedophiles from Discrimination?](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tim-walz-pedophile-protection-law/)** > > The claim was shared by the Republican National Committee's official research account on X. \*\*FALSE-\*\*_As Minnesota governor, Tim Walz signed a law making it illegal for people to discriminate against pedophiles._ This next article really clarifies Walz’s military record- > **[Attacks on Walz's Military Record - FactCheck.org](https://www.factcheck.org/2024/08/attacks-on-walzs-military-record/)** > > In introducing her pick for vice presidential running mate, Kamala Harris has prominently touted Tim Walz's 24 years of service in the Army National Guard. Now, however, GOP vice presidential nominee JD Vance and the Trump campaign are attacking Walz... ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/325 "2024-08-09T18:46:14Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Well, according to Fox, he’s a total con. Harris said that, to his former football players, Walz was ‘coach’. But Fox has uncovered the truth: he was only an assistant coach. Laura Ingraham is the genius who recently bashed Walz for the horrible conditions in Milwaukee under his leadership as governor of Minnesota: 🤣 > “If you know Minnesota — and I know it well — especially Milwaukee, it’s changed,” the talk show host said. > **[Fox News’ Laura Ingraham Botches Attack on Tim Walz, Saying She’s Watched...](https://people.com/laura-ingraham-minnesota-milwaukee-error-8692572)** > > Fox News' Laura Ingraham botched her attack on Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz on Wednesday, Aug. 7, by stating she watched Minnesota change under his leadership, 'especially Milwaukee.' Moments earlier, she said she knows Minnesota 'well' ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/326 "2024-08-09T18:47:11Z")
Apparently it’s “changed” by moving several hundred miles west! ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/327 "2024-08-09T19:50:36Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > I would not expect a Social Studies teacher to be the main coach. Why not? When I was in high school, the head football coach was a Biology teacher. Most high schools (at least the ones not in Texas) don’t have the resources to hire someone SPECIFICALLY to be a football coach or a basketball coach or… Yeah, it’s common for them to be PE teachers; our wrestling coach taught Drivers Ed (which became problematic when he lost his license for a DUI). Still, there’s a lot of different activities in schools; they can’t afford to hire outside teachers for most of them. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/328 "2024-08-09T20:00:43Z")
I doubt if Laura Ingraham was ever on a sports team that had multiple coaches. In my small high school, our football team had three coaches: the head coach and two assistant coaches. We didn’t call them ‘head coach’ and ‘assistant coach’, we called them ‘Coach Smith’ and ‘Coach Jones’ and ‘Coach Wilson’. Heck, I saw one of the assistant coaches last week, and addressed him by ‘Coach Jones’. And I’m guessing that’s how Walz’s former players still address him as well. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/329 "2024-08-09T20:32:18Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > But Fox has uncovered the truth: he was only an assistant coach. You know what the proper form of address is, for an assistant coach? Coach. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/330 "2024-08-09T20:36:24Z")
> [@jsc1953](#): > > You know what the proper form of address is, for an assistant coach? > > Coach Yes, see my post right above yours. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/331 "2024-08-09T20:55:12Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > \*\*FALSE-\*\*_As Minnesota governor, Tim Walz signed a law making it illegal for people to discriminate against pedophiles._ To parse out what occurred, the original language of the bill was awkward, but explicitly stated sexual orientation as a protected status did not include sexual interest in children. The bill was edited to clean up the awkwardness. In doing so the explicit mention of children was removed. The panty-twisters think that by omitting that explicit reference, someone will eventually try to claim interest in children is their sexual orientation and is thus protected. This is paranoia to be sure, but exactly the kind of paranoia the panty-twisters show when going after transgender people as perverts just trying to prey on women and children. Age is _not_ mentioned as a protected orientation. Other laws make pedophilia illegal. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/332 "2024-08-09T23:20:41Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Yes, see my post right above yours. First rule of posting: read all the way to the end, first. [\headsmack] ---
**Author:** ![LoneRhino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lonerhino/32/1311_2.png) [@LoneRhino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoneRhino)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/333 "2024-08-10T00:42:10Z")
I’m watching the rally in Arizona. Walz is a great hype man. ---
**Author:** ![illoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/a3d4f5/32.png) [@illoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/illoe)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/334 "2024-08-10T02:44:09Z")
I just finished watching it. And after seeing both Shapiro and Kelly speak now, I’ve got to say that Harris made absolutely the right call. Walz is a great communicator and a genuine mensch. And as much as I am a huge fan of Walz’s down-to-earth goodness, by the time Harris finished speaking I had almost forgotten about how impressive he was. Because she is hitting every critical point with absolute credibility and conviction. She is stunning. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/335 "2024-08-10T03:27:43Z")
That’s good. I don’t recall her being a strong speaker during her Presidential run. But she has had a lot of opportunities to get better. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/336 "2024-08-10T05:21:54Z")
I think her hands were tied in that primary run because she had to thread the needle of (a) setting herself apart from the competition without (b) attacking them directly in a way that damaged her connection with and standing in the party. Every conventional primary contender has to navigate this challenge (except Trump, who was just a wrecking ball); she was more obviously awkward than most. Now, she has a wide-open target and no reason to hold back. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/337 "2024-08-10T07:06:50Z")
> [@DSeid](#): > > Don’t get me wrong, I am very happy that progressives, including The Squad, feel enthused … but I’m looking to see what positions he’s taken that are going to be seen as extreme to the center right, and that won’t sound like standard D positions. Biden proposed free community college for lower income and increased Pell grant amounts. These are all pretty standard current D positions. ⁢ Oh, well, Biden is often regarded by progressives as pretty progressive–more so than most expected. I didn’t mention that because I was afraid any mention of Biden would be seen as off-topic. Not all agree with this, but it’s a common enough sentiment. > [@DSeid](#): > > I’d define progressive as something to the left of center left. Something the middle would think of as radical. But I am honestly asking. He’s not advocating for massive wealth redistribution … ⁢ And this is the other thing I left out: according to most people I talk to, progressivism **is** center left, at best. You don’t get into the actual left until you get into some level of socialism. I was under the impression only conservatives consider progressivism to be the “far left.” * * * The relevance to this thread isn’t to debate these two claims, but to give reference for why Walz is considered a progressive VP pick. I’m sure there are some people who disagree, and I would welcome a thread debating either one. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/338 "2024-08-10T07:59:13Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I was under the impression only conservatives consider progressivism to be the “far left.” I don’t know how meaningful that is considering modern conservatives label everyone to the left of Genghis Khan as “too woke” and they’re not that sure about him either. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/339 "2024-08-10T11:18:24Z")
“Yeah, did you know he never drank beer? What a snowflake!” ---
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> [@Railer13](#): > > I doubt if Laura Ingraham was ever on a sports team that had multiple coaches. In my small high school, our football team had three coaches: the head coach and two assistant coaches. We didn’t call them ‘head coach’ and ‘assistant coach’, we called them ‘Coach Smith’ and ‘Coach Jones’ and ‘Coach Wilson’. > > Heck, I saw one of the assistant coaches last week, and addressed him by ‘Coach Jones’. And I’m guessing that’s how Walz’s former players still address him as well. Waltz’s former players address him as “Coach _Jones_?” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2024, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/341 "2024-08-10T12:54:42Z")
You’re thinking of the basketball coach, known as “Basketball Jones”. ---
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> [@ASL\_v2.0](#): > > …Walz may be viewed as progressive: I do not get why this seems to be a “bad thing” in her view (or anyone here). What policies does he have that anyone objects to unless they are conservative? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352.md?page=18)