# Kamala Harris's choice of Tim Walz as VP **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [August 6, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352 "2024-08-06T21:19:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 29
**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/564 "2024-08-24T13:59:34Z")
Along with Chelsea Clinton. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/565 "2024-08-24T14:57:46Z")
Can anybody explain the nature of Gus’ disability? I’ve heard it described as a “non verbal learning disability”, but that it does not mean that he can’t speak. I’m not trying to be intrusive or disrespectful, but I am curious. Does he have a disability that is readily apparent when you meet him, or is it a more subtle issue with learning and/or behavior? ---
**Author:** ![MandaJo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ac91a4/32.png) [@MandaJo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MandaJo)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/566 "2024-08-24T14:59:40Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Yes. _When you wrestle with a pig -You both get dirty and the pig likes it._ I think the issue is “what counts as going low?” For too long, part of the “high road” has been taking MAGA seriously. The very worst stuff has been ignored, like they farted in church, because it seemed sort of rude to mention the really crazy shit. Thats the only way Vance was able to crawl out of the 4chan hell hole where views like “post-menopausal women have nothing to contribute” are normal. Its not “going low” to say that these views are weird. Ludicrous. To repeat them and bring them into the light ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/567 "2024-08-24T15:07:24Z")
> Almost 3 million kids in North America have the learning disability NVLD. It affects spatial-visual skills and has nothing to do with speaking abilities. > **[What is a nonverbal learning disorder? Tim Walz’s son Gus’ condition, explained](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/nonverbal-learning-disorder-tim-walzs-son-gus-condition-explained-rcna167804)** > > Almost 3 million kids in North America have the learning disability NVLD. It affects spatial-visual skills and has nothing to do with speaking abilities. > “These individuals are very intelligent and articulate well verbally, but they are typically clumsy with motor and spatial coordination,” he told NBC News. “It’s called a learning disorder because there are a lot of cues other than verbal cues that are necessary for us to keep information in our memory.” ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/568 "2024-08-24T15:16:56Z")
In a nutshell: similar to autism, without the hyper-focus on a subject. Difficulty reading social cues. ---
**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/569 "2024-08-24T15:26:04Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > > Almost 3 million kids in North America have the learning disability NVLD. It affects spatial-visual skills and has nothing to do with speaking abilities. Thanks for the link. I was confused a bit by the term “non-verbal”, which is also a common descriptor for people who do not or cannot speak. In this case, “non-verbal” describes _the type of learning_ that is affected and does not describe the person. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/570 "2024-08-24T15:31:13Z")
I administer a test to second graders every year called the CogAT, or cognitive abilities test. It has three sections: verbal, quantitative, and nonverbal. The nonverbal section assesses the child’s ability to reason in visual abstract ways. Which of these shapes belongs in a group with these three other shapes? If design A is transformed by some method into design B, what will design C look like when it is transformed in the same way? If I fold paper and punch holes in it as illustrated in this picture, what will the paper look like when unfolded? So that’s how I understand nonverbal learning disability: it diagnoses a person whose performance on such tasks would be dramatically lower than their performance on other tasks. Folks with this disability often rely heavily on language to navigate the world in situations where other people would not need language. If you want to see what I’m talking about, here are some sample questions. If you would really struggle on these questions compared to mathematical questions or verbal questions, you might have a nonverbal learning disability. > **[CogAT Nonverbal: Sample Questions & Practice | Elm Academy](https://elmacademyprep.com/cogat-nonverbal/)** > > Learn about the CogAT Nonverbal Battery. Find examples for each question type: Figure Matrices, Figure Classification, & Paper Folding. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/571 "2024-08-24T15:36:32Z")
**Moderating** : And with this, please drop the details of NVLD or Gus’ learning disorder in this thread. If interested a new thread can be started. Nothing wrong with the prior posts, just a good place to get back on subject. **If you are responding to something in a thread that is basically off-topic or likely to lead to a hijack, try this:** How to **Reply as a linked Topic** : Click Reply, in the upper left corner of the reply window is the reply type button, _looks like a curving arrow point to the right_. Choose **Reply as linked topic** and it starts a new thread. As an example, you can choose GD, IMHO or The Pit for it. That is actually the best method. ---
**Author:** ![carrps](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carrps/32/2957_2.png) [@carrps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrps)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/572 "2024-08-24T17:16:39Z")
> [@psychobunny](#): > > Interesting conversation about Walz’ first campaign between Al Franken and Anderson Cooper.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdCfq\_IlXkQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdCfq_IlXkQ) Thanks for this. So. If not for Al Franken Tim Walz’s political career might never have gotten off the ground? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/573 "2024-08-24T18:34:00Z")
> [@carrps](#): > > So. If not for Al Franken Tim Walz’s political career might never have gotten off the ground? I’d heard Franken tell a shorter version of the story a few weeks ago, and yes, that seems to be the gist of it: Walz was running for Congress in a rural, red district, Franken met Walz, and was very impressed with him, and thus, he worked to get Walz some support, including from Rahm Emanuel and the DCCC, which had written the race off as non-winnable for the Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/574 "2024-08-24T20:02:13Z")
> [@MandaJo](#): > > Its not “going low” to say that these views are weird. Ludicrous. To repeat them and bring them into the light Sure, but not making up ludicrous "pants on fire " lies or personal insults. A snappy snarky comeback is acceptable. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/575 "2024-08-24T20:48:08Z")
I’m sorry to keep posting links but I promise that this will be the last one for awhile. I am starting to have the feeling that he’s going to turn out to be a secret serial killer or something. Because otherwise I just woke up in the middle of a Frank Capra movie. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/LoR-pbxpQg8/maxresdefault.jpg "If You Thought You Couldn't Like Tim Walz Even More...") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoR-pbxpQg8) ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/576 "2024-08-24T20:49:49Z")
**Moderating** : Please describe the links. I fixed the preview at least. ---
**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/577 "2024-08-24T21:08:18Z")
Thank you. I apologize. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/578 "2024-08-24T21:14:36Z")
> [@Jihi](#): > > Could you imagine Vance sitting down and playing video games with anyone? > **[The Best RPGs Where You Can Be Evil](https://www.thegamer.com/best-rpgs-where-you-play-evil/)** > > RPGs that truly offer you freedom of choice include an option to play as an evil character, and here are the best games that accomplish this. ---
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/579 "2024-08-24T23:27:42Z")
Thanks for this. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/580 "2024-08-25T21:27:51Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > He only placed third in the 1998 All-Lutheran Three-Legged Sack Race, not second like his biographer claims I was joking when I posted this, but they’re now seriously going with “He claimed he got a commendation from the Chamber of Commerce in 1993 but it was actually from the Junior Chamber of Commerce” now. > **[For Tim Walz, a Pattern of Prevarications Stretches Back Almost Two Decades](https://freebeacon.com/democrats/for-tim-walz-a-pattern-of-prevarications-stretches-back-almost-two-decades/)** > > When Tim Walz launched his 2006 campaign for Congress in rural Minnesota, he boasted in his public biography that in 1993, he "was named the Outstanding Young Nebraskan by the Nebraska Chamber of Commerce for his service in the education, military,... ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/581 "2024-08-25T21:44:50Z")
“He wasn’t a coach he was an assistant coach!” 😱 ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2024, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/582 "2024-08-25T21:47:12Z")
Yep, they’ve got some serious blackmail dirt on him, for sure. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/583 "2024-08-26T00:02:01Z")
The great thing is that you can easily counter such accusations with… “So… That’s all you got?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352.md?page=28) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352.md?page=30)