# Kamala Harris's choice of Tim Walz as VP

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** kamala-harris\
**Created:** [August 6, 2024, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352 "2024-08-06T21:19:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
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Did I mishear, or did Comer suggest that he might be able to be compromised by recordings made of him and his wife on their honeymoon night? I think that qualifies as weird.

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**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/585 "2024-08-26T00:59:14Z")

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Does anyone know exactly how Walz himself referred to his position when talking about coaching. Did he specifically say he was “the” coach or “a” coach? Most people would infer that “the” coach was the head coach and “a” coach was an assistant coach. It’s not that I think it’s a big deal, but it would be good to clear this up. Hopefully, he didn’t make any really big blunders by saying something like he graduated at top of his class at business school when he really just barely got by. Boy howdy! The voters would never forgive him for something like that for sure!

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/586 "2024-08-26T01:29:48Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> Does anyone know exactly how Walz himself referred to his position when talking about coaching. Did he specifically say he was “the” coach or “a” coach?

I’m pretty sure it was always ‘a’ coach, but I can’t back up that claim.

The RW talking heads were up in arms when Harris called him ‘Coach Walz’, because, by gawd, he wasn’t the head coach, he was only an assistant. Never mind that every football coach at every level is called ‘coach’, whether it’s the head coach or any assistant.

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/587 "2024-08-26T01:49:13Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> The great thing is that you can easily counter such accusations with…
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> “So… That’s all you got?”

I was talking today with someone who doesn’t follow US politics and mentioned the things they’ve been saying about Walz, and that was exactly their reaction.

Followed by : “So the Republicans are just mean and childish?”

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**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/588 "2024-08-26T02:28:18Z")

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> [@filmore](#):
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> Does anyone know exactly how Walz himself referred to his position when talking about coaching. Did he specifically say he was “the” coach or “a” coach? Most people would infer that “the” coach was the head coach and “a” coach was an assistant coach

I’ve heard him say some form of “when I coached football.”

I was a Little League assistant coach for many years, a head coach for only one. The kids always called me and anyone else on the staff the same thing: Coach [First Name]. This is just one more weird GOP fixation.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/589 "2024-08-26T03:27:11Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I was joking when I posted this, but they’re now seriously going with “He claimed he got a commendation from the Chamber of Commerce in 1993 but it was actually from the Junior Chamber of Commerce” now.

You know what’s funny? That article states that “Kennedy asked that Walz remove the reference from his website and noted that the Chamber had endorsed his opponent, Gil Gutknecht,”.

That’s a lie! The letter cited directly above that Starkey statement says,

“It should be pointed out, however, that the **U.S. Chamber of Commerce** has endorsed your opponent, Congressman Gil Gutknecht, for his support of small business issues.”

Bonding added. That’s right, the author of the article complaining about misattribution has made his own misattribution.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/590 "2024-08-26T03:36:18Z")

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I know that when Harris introduced Walz as her running mate she specifically said he was a defensive coach.  
I don’t remember who was joking about it (Jon Stewart?), but he was saying that the Republicans made a good point that he was only an Assistant Coach. In fact he should not be running for President. If only there was a job where he could be an assistant to the President, like how an executive chef has a sous-chef. I wonder what we could call that job? Assistant President? Sous-President? Anyway, he should probably run for a job like that first.

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**Author:** ![CairoCarol](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cairocarol/32/3825_2.png) [@CairoCarol](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CairoCarol)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/591 "2024-08-26T04:16:21Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> the **U.S. Chamber of Commerce**

Oh my. The US Chamber of Commerce is a very different animal from local Chambers of Commerce, and in fact not infrequently at odds on policy. For sure, that would be a minor detail in most instances, but blaming the Democrats for conflating the Nebraska Chamber of Commerce and the Nebraska Jr. Chamber of Commerce (aka the Jaycees) while doing a similar conflation themselves is pretty rich.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/592 "2024-08-26T13:13:00Z")

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> [@CairoCarol](#):
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> while doing a similar conflation themselves is pretty rich.

“When grasping at straws, take care that the straws don’t also grasp at you.”

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**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/593 "2024-08-26T22:49:40Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> The RW talking heads were up in arms when Harris called him ‘Coach Walz’, because, by gawd, he wasn’t the head coach, he was only an assistant.

How to say you’ve never played sports without directly saying you’ve never played sports.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/594 "2024-08-27T00:16:21Z")

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> [@wguy123](#):
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> How to say you’ve never played sports without directly saying you’ve never played sports.

Yeah, one of my PE teachers (for weight lifting) used to love to be called “Coach” even tho he was no longer one at all (he was on the cusp of retirement)…

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/595 "2024-08-27T01:20:26Z")

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Heck, back when I was in Jr High taking PE, all the teachers were coaches. We had a football and a basketball team, but there were at least 3 coaches for the men. I don’t know how many on the other side of the gym.

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**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/596 "2024-08-27T01:28:46Z")

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Half the male teachers in my small school wore these shorts. They were all coach. My little league coach wore them (this was back when you went into little leagues in I think it first grade…no t-ball). We had a lot of coaches.

Dipshits saying he wasn’t “coach” are dipshits.

[![](https://i.imgur.com/EV99G7P.png) ](https://i.imgur.com/EV99G7P.png)

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**Author:** ![Lamoral](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lamoral/32/16078_2.png) [@Lamoral](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamoral)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2024, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/597 "2024-08-27T01:52:40Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Eh, he’s better than that. But I completely understand the instinct to defend your children against hateful assholes.

I got no problem with Walz, or any Democrats, deploying some savagery from time to time. Walz’s mild persona would have made it all the more memorable had he actually issued forth such a burn.

Also while we’re at it…

> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> There absolutely should be room for men to show genuine emotion, and that’s part of why Emhoff and Walz and Barack Obama were so lovely in their speeches, and why the contrast is so stark between Democratic and Republican ideas of masculinity.

> [@Irishman](#):
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> You are right. I talked about the manly man culture of the Republicans, but I should point out there is a strong element of that premise in our common society. “Be strong, stoic, cool. Don’t show vulnerability.” It’s a cultural aspect of the frontier man, the cowboy, the string leader in control of his emotions so he can focus and respond.

And Donald Trump is THE EXACT OPPOSITE of this. All he ever does is bitch, complain, complain, bitch. He’s bratty, he’s catty, he’s a gossip, everything’s always SO UNFAIR to him, everyone’s always SO MEAN to him…he’s a fucking _bitch._ How this guy fits in with the manly man culture of Republicans or of anyone else, I’ll NEVER fucking understand. I don’t think any Democratic male figures who actually do conform to the old-school conception of masculinity should hesitate to call Trump out for this.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/598 "2024-08-28T04:47:07Z")

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Well now he’s made me feel bad about my gutters. Every year I really think I should be checking them for leaves. I don’t know if I can take a four year guilt trip.

[https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=walz%20gutters&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:c70ad7b8,vid:wYmnsP2Yuuo,st:0](https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=walz%20gutters&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:c70ad7b8,vid:wYmnsP2Yuuo,st:0)

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/599 "2024-08-28T05:10:16Z")

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> [@psychobunny](#):
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> Well now he’s made me feel bad about my gutters.

I can’t wait to watch this tomorrow! I spent an hour Saturday up on an extension ladder cleaning out my gutter. Squirrels had been filling it with food for the winter!

Where I live, gutter helmets (as the headlines suggest he recomnends) don’t work so well. They quickly clog up with needles.

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Lemme see if i can embed the TikTok video itself here:

https://www.tiktok.com/embed/v2/7407837291240082718

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> cleaning out my gutter. Squirrels had been filling it with food for the winter!

What? You destroyed your squirrels’ winter food hoard? You cruel brute! I hope you’re satisfied when you see their gaunt, pathetic little faces staring in your windows this winter!

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/602 "2024-08-28T16:00:31Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> they are not weird- they are _creepy_. Weird can be good- I am a little weird- and many posts here also.

Yeah.

It bothers me some that they’re using “weird” as an insult. I’ve been weird my whole life.

But it matters what direction one’s weird in.

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**Post date:** [August 28, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-harriss-choice-of-tim-walz-as-vp/1005352/603 "2024-08-28T21:10:25Z")

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The point of using ‘weird’ is that it’s an innocuous term, it can be applied to multiple things at multiple levels, and ultimately it’s meaningless - for the Left. But it needles the Right like _ **crazy** _!

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