# Kamala should run for president again in 2028

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** kamala-harris\
**Created:** [December 18, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774 "2024-12-18T02:10:54Z")\
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**Post date:** [December 20, 2024, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/221 "2024-12-20T22:09:41Z")

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Closed on December 20, 2024, 10:09pm UTC



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> [@songsoflovetrouble](#):
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> This is the future of the Democratic Party, not Gavin Newson and the images of fentanyl zombies shitting on the streets in San Francisco that will be on TV 24/7 if he is the nominee.

OK, I’ve seen enough. This might as well be trolling at this point. A **Warning** and a thread ban for you.

**Moderating:**

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/223 "2024-12-21T16:46:16Z")

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Opened on December 21, 2024, 4:46pm UTC



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**Author:** ![Ash\_trav511](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@Ash\_trav511](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ash_trav511)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/224 "2024-12-21T17:44:12Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> In 2028 she will be free from the constraint of running as Biden’s VP. If she runs, she has my vote depending on her Democratic opposition

Agree. I know she will not be the “automatic choice” in 2028 but I hope she contests the primary, wins it, be the nominee AND WIN the presidency.

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**Post date:** [December 21, 2024, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/225 "2024-12-21T20:41:01Z")

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I would not be unhappy with such an outcome.

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**Author:** ![Ash\_trav511](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@Ash\_trav511](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ash_trav511)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/226 "2024-12-24T11:14:58Z")

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Unless democrats buckle up and work hard on voter registration, Pennsylvania will go the Ohio way. I hope the democratic party leadership takes Pennsylvania seriously.

> <https://x.com/ScottPresler/status/1871292561274388606?t=YQeh3UHwPr9WwQDUKt8nzQ&s=19>

There’s been a modest increase in republican registrations but a much bigger reduction in democratic affliation.

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**Post date:** [December 24, 2024, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/227 "2024-12-24T11:18:39Z")

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For Kamala or any democratic nominee to win future elections, Pennsylvania will be the key state. The importance of this cannot be overstated.

> <https://x.com/ScottPresler/status/1871299831743844532?t=Qafa6EayH6lm79TvyKpmDQ&s=19>

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/228 "2024-12-25T12:57:09Z")

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One of my class mates at a class I took Nov could not make himself vote at all. Trump was bad he realized. But he said Biden made mistakes. Harris was apparently supposed to apologize for mistakes in the term. Then he would have shown up to vote.

I think Harris and Walz are used up. The social media world will push for a new candidate each term. Even over a sitting president. It’s a little odd, because those people do not vote in primaries to any significatnt level. They fail to pick the one they want. Then they join that large undecided group.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/229 "2024-12-25T13:02:56Z")

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I’m always in favor of replacing politicians as much as possible. Politicians should be reminded that they’re disposable - keeps them from thinking too highly of themselves. And really, there are always more where they came from.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/230 "2024-12-25T16:20:01Z")

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> [@TeroSunbear](#):
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> Trump was bad he realized. But he said Biden made mistakes. Harris was apparently supposed to apologize for mistakes in the term. Then he would have shown up to vote.

I need the head banging on desk emoji. So many stories of people like that in all these threads…

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/231 "2024-12-25T16:57:18Z")

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As Donald Rumsfeld might have said, ‘You get elected by the voters you have, not the voters you might want or wish to have at a later time.’ In order to win, the Democrats need to have messaging so that people like are willing to vote for them on their own. They can’t depend on people like that changing to align with what the Democrats want voters to be.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/232 "2024-12-25T18:33:20Z")

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Intelligent beings? Because “people like that” are just stupid, self destructive and amoral. And what message would the Democrats send, since people like don’t seem to actually _have_ any goal in mind.

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**Post date:** [December 25, 2024, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/233 "2024-12-25T21:48:39Z")

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> [@TeroSunbear](#):
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> I think Harris and Walz are used up.

Walz will continue as Governor. Harris may well run for CA Governor or senator.

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As _I_ say, if you claim you are incapable of distinguishing between something as simple as “bad” and “worse”, then you want “worse” to prevail but you don’t have the guts to say so.

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I hope Kamala runs for California governor, wins and then is in contention for 2028 democratic presidential nomination. I think in 2028 it is hers to lose. She will be the frontrunner for the nomination I feel and goes on to defeat whoever is the republican nominee in the general election.

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To all of the naysayers, the OP never said should be the Dem nominee in 2028, but just she should run. Considering it should be an open primary process, then yes she should and see what Dems think of her.

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I agree. Kamala should run in open primary and hopefully win.

Considering she is a former senator, former AG, having experience of facing a candidate like Trump in a presidential contest, ability to fundraise huge amounts…she has many advantages. Not to mention she is a woman of halfblack/half Indian origin.

Who could be better than her ?

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> To all of the naysayers, the OP never said should be the Dem nominee in 2028, but just she should run.

Yes, and…

The OP has also said, many times in this thread (including in the new post just beneath yours) that they feel that Harris not only should run, but would be clearly the best-qualified candidate:

> [@Ash\_trav511](#):
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> Considering she is a former senator, former AG, having experience of facing a candidate like Trump in a presidential contest, ability to fundraise huge amounts…she has many advantages. Not to mention she is a woman of halfblack/half Indian origin.
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> Who could be better than her ?

And that’s the part with which a number of other posters have disagreed (some very strongly) with them.

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> [@Ash\_trav511](#):
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> I see many posters are not supporting the idea of a female candidate in 2028. Someone has to break the glass ceiling…as they say records are meant to be broken one day.

“America will never elect a Black man president.”  
Every American before 2008

Only two women have run for President from a major party. Hillary Clinton whom many despised and probably would have lost to a lobotomized wombat just from people voting against her. And Kamala Harris and all would have to admit that this election was very strange.

If people are not happy with that take, let’s view it as them both losing to Donald Trump. There is no explaining the level of his appeal, his gravitas and his Nehemiah Scudder persona succeeding in the United States. Assuming the Trump assassination attempt was successful, would Harris have beaten Vance? What Pub is going to run in 2028 that will garner Trump level of sycophantic voters?

> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> And that’s the part with which a number of other posters have disagreed (some very strongly) with them.

Admittedly I’ve only scanned the 230+ posts but I don’t see a ton of them proposing who would be better.

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Admittedly I’ve only scanned the 230+ posts but I don’t see a ton of them proposing who would be better.

A number of us have noted that 2028 is a long way off, and Democratic candidates like Bill Clinton in 1992 and Barack Obama in 2008 were barely on the national radar four years earlier. Speaking as a liberal, who will almost undoubtedly vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is in 2028, I have no idea who the best candidate will be in 2028 – it may turn out to be a name that’s well-known today, or it might be someone that most of us have not yet heard of.

As you note, there’s no reason why Harris should not consider running for the nomination in four years, if she feels she has a strong case again, and I don’t think that anyone here has said that she shouldn’t seek the nomination.

The OP comes across, to me, as having rose-colored glasses regarding Harris, who is 0-for-1 on running for the Democratic nomination in an open primary, and 0-for-1 on running for the presidency in the general election. The OP comes across as feeling that Harris ran a great campaign in 2024, and was an outstanding candidate; many of us disagree with that, and have noted such.

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