# Kamala should run for president again in 2028 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [December 18, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774 "2024-12-18T02:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/301 "2025-01-08T19:23:44Z")
> [@Ash\_trav511](#): > > I feel she should run again in 2028 and become the first woman president. She has run for President twice and did badly both times. The Democratic Party will run a nomination campaign, and if she contests it, she will lose badly. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/302 "2025-01-08T20:17:52Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > She has run for President twice and did badly both times Not really. The first time was a trial run, she withdrew before a single vote was cast in any primary- and some pundits said she was really running for Veep- which she succeeded. The 2nd time she was pulled in as a late replacement and the election was close. ---
**Author:** ![TeroSunbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terosunbear/32/14748_2.png) [@TeroSunbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeroSunbear)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2025, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/303 "2025-01-08T20:55:08Z")
Swing voters are weird. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_trav511](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@Ash\_trav511](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ash_trav511)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/304 "2025-01-09T09:02:14Z")
We (democrats) need them. ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/305 "2025-01-09T11:24:56Z")
On paper I can see where including Cheney was a good idea, but not in the real world. And as for voters not caring-well, they say that with great power, comes great responsibility. If many voters aren’t willing to take on the responsibility of educating themselves about issues apart from MAGA propaganda, maybe they shouldn’t have the power to vote? Just my tired and discouraged thoughts. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_trav511](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@Ash\_trav511](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ash_trav511)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/306 "2025-01-09T11:30:05Z")
> [@Love\_Rhombus](#): > > On paper I can see where including Cheney was a good idea, but not in the real world. Fully agree. I don’t know which political advisor suggested this…Cheney is intensely hated on the republican side. Even Never Trumpers don’t like her. In hindsight perhaps courting Nikki Haley would have been better for pulling in the Never Trump voters on the republican side to vote democrat than Liz Cheney. ---
**Author:** ![Thing.Fish](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thing.fish/32/9168_2.png) [@Thing.Fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thing.Fish)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/307 "2025-01-09T14:46:17Z")
Nikki Haley caved and endorsed Trump. I think Cheney was a useful campaign surrogate for a very specific subgroup of voters, but they should have tried to minimize her exposure to normal Democratic-leaning voters. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_trav511](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@Ash\_trav511](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ash_trav511)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/308 "2025-01-09T15:28:11Z")
I agree. Cheney should not have been accorded vip treatment and given so much exposure. I doubt if she bought any votes to Kamala…on balance she may have flipped some votes to Trump or made a few voters skip the polls than vote for Kamala. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/309 "2025-01-09T15:32:48Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Not really. The first time was a trial run, she withdrew before a single vote was cast in any primary She was in the debates. Spent a lot of money. “The voters were so uninterested in her candidacy that she didn’t make it to the primaries” is not a good sign. Look, she’s a decent person and would have made a better President than Trump, but there is clearly no appetite amongst the American people for Kamala Harris to be the President. If she runs in 2028 she will be humiliated in the primaries. It would be a waste of her time. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/310 "2025-01-09T17:23:16Z")
> [@Ash\_trav511](#): > > Cheney is intensely hated on the republican side. Even Never Trumpers don’t like her. Why would that be? She’s the perfect Never Trump Republican. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/311 "2025-01-09T19:58:22Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > She was in the debates. Spent a lot of money. “The voters were so uninterested in her candidacy that she didn’t make it to the primaries” is not a good sign. Early debates. Before any primaries- and generally a LOT of candidates drop out then. Showing you have the smarts to see it is gonna be Joe Biden or maybe Sanders and positioning yourself to be Bidens veep shows great political tactics and smarts. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/312 "2025-01-09T20:12:11Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Early debates. Before any primaries- and generally a LOT of candidates drop out then. Showing you have the smarts to see it is gonna be Joe Biden or maybe Sanders and positioning yourself to be Bidens veep shows great political tactics and smarts. Then I guess Barack Obama was kinda dumb in 2007, because he saw it was gonna be Hillary Clinton and yet he still tried to win. ---
**Author:** ![Pleonast](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pleonast/32/1183_2.png) [@Pleonast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pleonast)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/313 "2025-01-09T20:23:46Z")
I’ve been a supporter of Kamala for years. I’d love for her to be president because I think she’s better than most other Democratic contenders. But she had her shot and the bench is deep. It’s someone else’s turn next. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/314 "2025-01-09T20:35:57Z")
Here’s what the DNC should do. Poll the Dems in the swing states that didn’t vote and ask, “Why didn’t you vote for Kamala?” Use that data to inform the party platform. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/315 "2025-01-09T21:52:31Z")
That presumes that they’ll be honest about their reasons, and that if they _are_ honest that the reason has something to do with reality. The people who voted agaisnt her out of racism and misogyny probably won’t admit it, and the people who believed Republican propaganda won’t be persuaded by a party platform they’ll never actually hear about. ---
**Author:** ![Mijin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mijin/32/9369_2.png) [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/316 "2025-01-09T22:17:40Z")
The answers will be “Because she was responsible for the open border and inflation”. Which won’t tell you much because both those claims are false. (high border crossings can be laid on Biden, at least a little, although he also got crossings back down again later) ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_trav511](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@Ash\_trav511](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ash_trav511)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/317 "2025-01-09T23:40:42Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Here’s what the DNC should do. Poll the Dems in the swing states that didn’t vote and ask, “Why didn’t you vote for Kamala?” Use that data to inform the party platform. This is a great idea and I hope the democratic party is doing this. ---
**Author:** ![Ash\_trav511](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/edb3f5/32.png) [@Ash\_trav511](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ash_trav511)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2025, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/318 "2025-01-09T23:43:10Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > That presumes that they’ll be honest about their reasons, and that if they _are_ honest that the reason has something to do with reality. The people who voted agaisnt her out of racism and misogyny probably won’t admit it, and the people who believed Republican propaganda won’t be persuaded by a party platform they’ll never actually hear about. I think all polling has to navigate this issue of truthful responses or false answers. I hope there is some way the pollsters are working around this to get the ultimate picture right. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/319 "2025-01-10T01:54:10Z")
> [@Ash\_trav511](#): > > This is a great idea and I hope the democratic party is doing this. They are doing polling, certainly. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2025, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/320 "2025-01-10T02:36:28Z")
> [@Mijin](#): > > The answers will be “Because she was responsible for the open border and inflation”. Which won’t tell you much because both those claims are false. I feel one reason she lost was that she wasn’t able to handle attacks like these. Mudslinging is part of politics these days. She needed to be able to flip the script on these kinds of attacks and figure out ways to come out on top. It seemed like she was flustered by these attacks and didn’t really address them. Even if the attacks were total nonsense, she needed to figure out a way to tamp down the chatter. It seemed like these attacks just landed on her and she didn’t fight them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774.md?page=17)