# Kamala should run for president again in 2028 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [December 18, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774 "2024-12-18T02:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/381 "2025-10-26T11:12:15Z")
Way off. She could have run for prez in 2024. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/382 "2025-10-26T11:35:37Z")
And she’s been “AOC” across the whole ecosystem for years now. Sure that’s on the public for not wanting to thumb out a long compound name on their devices, but it’s done already. ---
**Author:** ![Hatchie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hatchie/32/3983_2.png) [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/383 "2025-10-26T12:14:45Z")
Oh. Well I haven’t been monitoring her age, true.My, how fast they grow up. As for the initials thing, I’m sorry but if you don’t spell it out, it’s a brand not a person. The media don’t like it in America if you don’t have a name like Susan Collins. ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/384 "2025-10-26T12:30:03Z")
Harris was the candidate because the Democrats didn’t have a choice. If Biden had decided not to run, I doubt she would have won in an open field. She’s smart and competent, but a bit dry and boring. And that’s not how Democrats win the White House. Just ask Dukakis, Gore, H. Clinton and Kerry. She should absolutely run again if she truly believes she’s the best candidate. Who knows? She might be better at campaigning this time around. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/385 "2025-10-26T12:36:20Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I don’t see much to blame her for. She did a good job. Blame the voters. Exactly. Seems like a lot of Democratic voters did not want to vote for a black woman. 6 million fewer voters voted for Harris than Biden in 2020. They vote for her she wins in a landslide. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 1:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/386 "2025-10-26T13:16:25Z")
Trump hadn’t yet fully weaponized the DOJ in 2000; yet, if she’s done anything wrong, especially in the last year or so to the next 15 months, when she might announce, federal indictments will likely follow. Newsom and Schumer might also run, yet they’ll be doing so at their peril ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/387 "2025-10-26T13:20:20Z")
She doesn’t have to have “done anything wrong”. Being someone opposing trump is crime enough on it’s own. Everything else will simply be invented. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/388 "2025-10-26T13:20:41Z")
Not my first choice by far, but I’m fine with a big field. If AOC runs, I think she will be the frontrunner (and would be my pick right now). ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/389 "2025-10-26T13:23:10Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > I don’t see much to blame her for. She did a good job. Blame the voters. There’s no point in blaming something you can’t change. You can replace the candidate; you can’t replace the voters. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/390 "2025-10-26T13:52:26Z")
> [@BlankSlate](#): > > Harris was the candidate because the Democrats didn’t have a choice. For this reason, > The Biden campaign said it had $240 million cash on hand at the beginning of July. It likely burned through a good deal of that on ads, staffing and the like since then, but now that President Biden is out, there’s a question of whether any other candidate would or should have access to that money. > > The short answer seems to be that Vice President Harris — who is already poised to be the new Democratic nominee — has a strong claim to the funds, because she was and is on the filing statements as a candidate with Biden. Other potential replacements would not, according to many campaign finance experts. > > Those candidates would have to rely on Biden donating the money to an outside group or super PAC or he would have to stand one up on his own to support the potential Democratic nominee. But the candidate would not have control over that money or how it’s used. > > [Fact check: Can Kamala Harris access Biden campaign money? : NPR](https://www.npr.org/2024/07/23/g-s1-12807/harris-biden-fec-campaign-finance) ---
**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/391 "2025-10-26T13:57:15Z")
Double whammy. Even without the money problem the Democrats couldn’t have skipped over the sitting VP, a black woman, for someone else. If the VP had been someone like Tim Kaine, they might have been able to engineer another candidate. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/392 "2025-10-26T14:26:14Z")
Thank God. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/393 "2025-10-26T15:32:45Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > She starts out with her having been a loser uppermost in primary voters’ minds. > … > I doubt she will get the nomination but see no harm in her trying. One thing we do not need right now is is a current-day, distaff [Adlai Stevenson](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adlai_Stevenson_II), a nice enough guy who ran for President two times and “would accept a draft” for a third then lost it to JFK. If the back bench of the Democratic party is so shallow it cannot come up with someone at least as good as her, we are indeed, in deep shit. ---
**Author:** ![Coriolanus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coriolanus/32/18769_2.png) [@Coriolanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coriolanus)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/394 "2025-10-26T15:41:47Z")
Biden should have announced he’s “one and done” in 2022. Maybe even resigned. Harris could have shown some Presidential credibility, and if primaried and not chosen, oh well. The way it went was too slow to gear up any kind of political machine. I suggested the best candidate was Mitt Romney. Dunno if he’d shift parties, or was in any way inclined, and he was 76 yet far towards the middle of the radical we have now. No republican, except perhaps Joe Scarborough who was in the House for a cup of coffee, has said anything negative about Trump throwing an extra 10% and calling the video of Reagan “fake” when it’s word-for-word on YouTube for years. Nobody is going to challenge Trump in a primary. And no Democrat will replace him in the Gold House even if they win. He can’t read it, but he’s heard the spoken language fifth grader version of “Coup 'd tat” (although I’m not sure the term would apply now as opposed to 2020 if he just rejects the results and parks himself in the Gold House. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/395 "2025-10-26T15:43:41Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > > [@Procrustus](#): > > > > I don’t see much to blame her for. She did a good job. Blame the voters. > > There’s no point in blaming something you can’t change. You can replace the candidate; you can’t replace the voters. Very well said. IMO … The very hard part for the Ds as we run up to 2026 and 2028 is deciding how much of America wants center-right to hard-right policies but with less crazy and less rampant graft, and how much of America wants genuinely center left to actually left policies. The winning D candidate for those two different sets of all US voters will be a very different person with a very different platform. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/396 "2025-10-26T17:18:39Z")
That is a difficult needle to thread. We are fucked. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/397 "2025-10-26T18:04:23Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Seems like a lot of Democratic voters did not want to vote for a black woman. ChatGPT gave me these factoids, after which I will give the reliable-looking source links: > [@](#): > > According to national exit-polling data, about **94% of self-identified Democrats** said they voted for Biden in 2020. > > National exit-poll data show that **95% of self-identified Democrats** said they voted for Harris in 2024. > **[How Groups Voted in 2020 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research](https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2020?utm_source=chatgpt.com)** > > TypeDemographicGroupBidenTrumpSEXMen484553Women525742RACEWhite674158African-American138712Hispanic > **[How Groups Voted in 2024 | Roper Center for Public Opinion Research](https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/how-groups-voted-2024?utm_source=chatgpt.com)** > > TypeDemographicGroupHarrisTrumpSEXMen474355Women535345RACEWhite714257African-American118613Hispanic Some will vote against a candidate because of being a Black woman, Some will vote for them for the same reason. I’m missing where the evidence is that one group is bigger than the other. Kamala Harris is associated with a previous administration in a era where voters are quick to think it is time for a change. This is something that both primary voters and general election voters are likely to agree on.That the reason I think she will not get the nomination. AOC is the one with risk of being strong in primaries and weak in the general election. With Harris, I think they would go in tandem. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/398 "2025-10-26T18:28:54Z")
Those seem legit facts. But … That’s addressing only those who voted. Harris got ~ 9 million fewer votes than Biden did. Presumably the number of Democratic-leaning voters didn’t shrink much in 4 years. In fact it probably grew. What IMO happened, as did last time the Ds ran a woman, is that millions of D voters abstained. They didn’t want trump, but couldn’t bring themselves to vote for his opponent. With predictable results. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/399 "2025-10-26T19:31:39Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > And if she gets the nomination will she lose again? Several people have run, gotten close, but lost- then successfully ran again. > [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Seems like a lot of Democratic voters did not want to vote for a black woman. Nope. They blamed Biden/Harris for inflation. > [@LSLGuy](#): > > What IMO happened, as did last time the Ds ran a woman, is that millions of D voters abstained. What happened is that during those 4 years voters forgot trumps lies, and so beleived them again. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2025, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/400 "2025-10-26T19:54:22Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > What IMO happened, as did last time the Ds ran a woman, is that millions of D voters abstained. They didn’t want trump, but couldn’t bring themselves to vote for his opponent. With predictable results. I cannot disprove this. I just find it hard to believe that the U.S. could be such an outlier when we know that women can be elected in so many other countries. Is the U.S. really so much more sexist than Mexico? See U.S. presidential general election turnout figures here: > **[Voter Turnout in Presidential Elections | The American Presidency Project](https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/data/voter-turnout-in-presidential-elections)** Voter turnout in 2020 was the highest in fifty years. Turnout in 2024 was indeed less – but still above-average. Hypothesis: Trump is very good at bringing attention, positive and negative, to politics. He is especially skillful at gaining attention to politics when in the White House. Because of this, the election occurring at the end of four years of his White House schtick got record attention and turnout. My hypothesis is somewhat testable. If I am correct, the November 2028 election, because of occurring after four Trump White House years, will have near-record turnout comparable to 2020. Am I sure? No, One thing giving me a little pause is Kemi Badenoch, [sometimes at least](https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/53176-political-favourability-ratings-october-2025), having lower favorability numbers than Nigel Farage. Of course, those who think the U.S. is unique won’t consider this anything. And the small sample sizes, and special situation considerations, with any analysis like this, make prognosticating little more than meaningless fun. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774.md?page=21)