# Kamala should run for president again in 2028 **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Tags:** kamala-harris\ **Created:** [December 18, 2024, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774 "2024-12-18T02:10:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/461 "2025-10-28T18:48:42Z")
> [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > I would prefer to understand why Biden became so unpopular (which has very little to do with Trump) and see what we can do about it so we can win future elections. Because the Democratic spin doctors could not put anything he did in a positive light. He could have cured AIDS and his press secretary would have messed up the message. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/462 "2025-10-28T22:18:16Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > Like George W. Bush she was not a good off-the-cuff speaker. True. And DJT makes Dubs look brilliant in hindsight. Though bad off-the-cuff speaker vs. crazy talk should also have been an easy match, as mentioned before this is not a rational audience. > [@Procrustus](#): > > And we only got 48% of the vote. It should have been 98%. Now I know you are being hyperbolic but it was never going to be anything but a “normal” win either way. As stated here and elsewhere, the input premises and information fed into half of the voter group by media and the algorithms are in opposition to the expectation what’s an “obvious” result. GIGO. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/463 "2025-10-28T22:21:52Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > Now I know you are being hyperbolic Yes and no. I really struggle how _anyone_ could vote for Trump unless they are truly a malignant individual. Of course, a 60/40 “landslide” would have been fine, but I would have wondered who the heck was in the 40%. ---
**Author:** ![filmore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/7993a0/32.png) [@filmore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmore)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/464 "2025-10-28T22:37:58Z")
It’s hard to understand Trump supporters like this: > **[Detained in immigration raids, Maga mom still has faith in Trump's mass...](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3vd1vn9n06o)** > > Speaking from a detention facility in California, an Iranian immigrant says she believes "the good people will be released". > [@](#): > > If Arpineh Masihi could vote, she would have cast her ballot for Donald Trump. She’s a devout supporter of the US president – even now that she’s locked up as an illegal immigrant. > > “He’s doing the right thing because lots of these people don’t deserve to be here,” Arpineh told the BBC over the phone from the Adelanto immigrant detention centre in California’s Mojave Desert. She has been taken away from her husband and kids, locked up, is in the removal process, and yet she still supports Trump and thinks he’ll do the right thing. That’s the kind of voters Trump has. She’s not the only one. Many of his supporters are from groups that he disdains yet they passionately give him their support. It’s hard to understand how anyone who isn’t a white Christian supports Trump since it’s just a matter of time before he stabs them in the back. ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2025, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/465 "2025-10-28T23:22:37Z")
They’ve bought the line that somebody else, the Ds, are an existential threat to the USA. Trump the savior will save the country. All else is details they don’t understand. But they’ve been fed that mantra every minute for the last 20 years and they repeat it to themselves in their sleep. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/466 "2025-10-29T17:20:19Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > You’re too nice. American voters as a whole are ignorant idiots. No, only about half of them > [@Hawkeyeop](#): > > That is an incredibly defeatist attitude. You got 48% of the vote this time and won the election last time and find it impossible to convince 1% of voters to switch side. Right ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2025, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/467 "2025-10-29T17:23:25Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > No, only about half of them It is possible to be an ignorant idiot and accidentally vote for the right person. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/468 "2025-10-30T17:09:56Z")
LMFAO. Wish you were wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Aeschines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aeschines/32/16251_2.png) [@Aeschines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aeschines)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/469 "2025-10-30T17:25:33Z")
Waaaay back earlier in the thread I was more positive about Kamala running again, but now I am not. At the same time, there is no Democrat that I particularly love as a 2028 presidential candidate (maybe AOC–more on that in a sec), but I think that Kamala is disqualified at this point. The reason is simple: she hasn’t been a leader–at all–since then. She’s working from the old template: shucks, I lost the election, better keep my head down a bit–I lost, after all–but we’ll git ya at the next election! Nixon did it, so can I. Oh, and book tour, whoo hoo!!! Umm, nope! Kamala’s only chance was to become, despite her loss, the leader in this crisis. If not _the_ leader, at least _a_ leader. At the very least… a presence?! In contrast, the aforementioned AOC _has_ been as big a fighter as any. I don’t find what she’s done amazing or transcendent, but it’s at least something. AOC is also interesting as a politician, and she is not _anti_-entertaining (repulsive?) in the way that Newsom is. Pritzker is… fine, I guess. He’s said some things against Trump that are good, but at the same time they would seem to me to be what any Democrat should be saying, i.e., the baseline, so it’s hard to be inspired. But all three of these are better than Kamala, who just isn’t there at all. Barring some unexpected transformation (which I don’t expect!), she’s done and has no chance. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/470 "2025-10-30T17:37:50Z")
Then who have been the fighters, in your opinion, beside Newsome? Certainly not Jeffries or Schumer. No governors spring to mind except maybe Pritzker. AGs filing lawsuits against Trump? Who would vote for Phil Weiser? The progressives (you mention AOC) have been relatively silent. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2025, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/471 "2025-10-30T19:31:05Z")
The way I see it, many Dems, both Liberals and Progressives, just did not and still do not have an effective contingency plan for all what’s going on right now and so are quiet because if challenged would have to admit “I got nuthin’”. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2025, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/472 "2025-10-31T03:00:32Z")
> [@filmore](#): > > It’s hard to understand how anyone who isn’t a white Christian supports Trump Not any harder than it is to understand how anyone who _is_ a Christian believes that Trump is one. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2025, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774/473 "2025-10-31T11:50:25Z")
> [@outlierrn](#): > > Not any harder than it is to understand how anyone who _is_ a Christian believes that Trump is one. Tribalism. To a lot of people “Christian” is shorthand for “on my side”; not for any particular adherence to Christianity. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kamala-should-run-for-president-again-in-2028/1011774.md?page=23)