# Kanicbird. Yeah, It's probably pointless, but.. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 30, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711 "2009-01-30T14:37:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/21 "2009-01-30T16:09:03Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > He’s just rigid, and his beliefs are totally idiosyncratic. Spelled without the “syncra.” Beautiful. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/22 "2009-01-30T16:11:00Z")
I for one dig **Kanicbird**. These days it takes courage to stand up for what you believe in. There’s a guy at my work that wears a yarmulke every day. Although we have different beliefs I told him one day what I thought about him wearing it religiously. That it takes courage to stand tall for what you believe in. People die like dogs every day for being of a color, religion or sexual preference. I consider myself privileged to be able to be myself without being persecuted for it. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/23 "2009-01-30T16:12:38Z")
> [@Omegaman](#): > > There’s a guy at my work that wears a yarmulke every day. Although we have different beliefs I told him one day what I thought about him wearing it religiously. That it takes courage to stand tall for what you believe in. No it doesn’t, not unless he happens to live in work in Skinheadtown or something. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/24 "2009-01-30T16:14:36Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I’m betting \*\*kanicbird \*\*is some wannabe creative writer who invented this persona just piss off **Acid Lamp** … or anybody willing to take the bait. > > I refuse to believe anyone could be \*that \*fucking deluded. Well, I can belive it, but I don’t see why anybody like that would bother with an internet message board what with all the self-flagellation on the agenda. This, times infinity. I don’t even understand why anyone would bother responding to anything he/she posts. **Kanicbird’s** clearly not listening, not interesting, and not intelligent enough to process the information. ---
**Author:** ![George\_Kaplin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3e96dc/32.png) [@George\_Kaplin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/George_Kaplin)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/25 "2009-01-30T16:22:22Z")
As I understand it, all **kanicbird** does is faithfully adhere to the letter of Old Testament as best she can. The problem is with the book. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/26 "2009-01-30T16:24:57Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > No it doesn’t, not unless he happens to live in work in Skinheadtown or something. You wear one everyday too? Sounds like you’re an expert. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/27 "2009-01-30T16:26:54Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > This, times infinity. I don’t even understand why anyone would bother responding to anything he/she posts. **Kanicbird’s** clearly not listening, not interesting, and not intelligent enough to process the information. Stop grumbling about **kanicbird**. I’m trying to have a serious discussion here! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/28 "2009-01-30T16:28:01Z")
> [@George\_Kaplin](#): > > As I understand it, all **kanicbird** does is faithfully adhere to the letter of Old Testament as best she can. The problem is with the book. No, I think **kanicbird** is open about having come up with some of \_\_\_ own interpretations. [See this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=501371) There’s nothing wrong with making your own version of what the Bible means, and **kanicbird** may be a literalist on some points, but one others \_\_\_ is definitely not taking the OT literally. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/29 "2009-01-30T16:31:37Z")
> [@Omegaman](#): > > I for one dig **Kanicbird**. These days it takes courage to stand up for what you believe in. Courage, alone, is not always worthy of respect. Courage tied to a good cause is noteworthy; courage tied to a bad one is noteworthy for other reasons. Beyond that, it’s easy to be courageous when you think the universe is standing behind you so strongly, as **kanicbird** appears to. I’ve never seen him express any doubts that what he thinks might be wrong, or in his interpretations, or on God backing him up. To go with your example, it would be like a guy in a yarmulke walking down the street in a protective bubble with 50 armed guards. Courage is easy when you think you’ve got someone backing you up. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/30 "2009-01-30T16:39:59Z")
[**kanicbird** ’s religious views come from **kanicbird** , not anybody else’s interpretation of scripture.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10687099#post10687099) ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/31 "2009-01-30T16:49:13Z")
> [@Omegaman](#): > > You wear one everyday too? > > Sounds like you’re an expert. No, but I know the definition of the word courage, and wearing a hat every day that signifies you as beloning to a religion is not courage. How does doing so pose a difficulty, danger, pain, etc., that is faced without fear? Why should this guy fear wearing a yarmulke? ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/32 "2009-01-30T16:52:36Z")
> [@Cluricaun](#): > > No, but I know the definition of the word courage, and wearing a hat every day that signifies you as beloning to a religion is not courage. How does doing so pose a difficulty, danger, pain, etc., that is faced without fear? Why should this guy fear wearing a yarmulke? I’ve had coworkers that wore their yarmulke every day. I don’t understand the place \*\*Omegaman \*\*lives where this is an act of bravery. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/33 "2009-01-30T17:00:57Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > Courage, alone, is not always worthy of respect. Courage tied to a good cause is noteworthy; courage tied to a bad one is noteworthy for other reasons. Beyond that, it’s easy to be courageous when you think the universe is standing behind you so strongly, as **kanicbird** appears to. I’ve never seen him express any doubts that what he thinks might be wrong, or in his interpretations, or on God backing him up. To go with your example, it would be like a guy in a yarmulke walking down the street in a protective bubble with 50 armed guards. Courage is easy when you think you’ve got someone backing you up. Where in the hell do you come up with that example? When I walk down the street I am subject to the same hate that everybody else is. I am just one man, he is just one man, just like everybody on the rest of this fucking shithole world. Are you referring to the law or something? You either stand your ground or bow down just like everybody else in this world. Because you judge his beliefs as not worthy of your respect that just shows me you are willing to cast judgement on another because you disagree with their beliefs. It’s your right to do so, and I wouldn’t judge you for it. Enjoy your high horse while you’re on it. With any luck you won’t have a clue what I’m talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/34 "2009-01-30T17:02:36Z")
> [@Omegaman](#): > > I for one dig **Kanicbird**. These days it takes courage to stand up for what you believe in. > > There’s a guy at my work that wears a yarmulke every day. Although we have different beliefs I told him one day what I thought about him wearing it religiously. That it takes courage to stand tall for what you believe in. > > People die like dogs every day for being of a color, religion or sexual preference. I consider myself privileged to be able to be myself without being persecuted for it. This is not courage. I bet he was pissed that you thought it was, though. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/35 "2009-01-30T17:04:32Z")
> [@Omegaman](#): > > Because you judge his beliefs as not worthy of your respect that just shows me you are willing to cast judgement on another because you disagree with their beliefs. That pretty much sums up what we do here. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/36 "2009-01-30T17:04:44Z")
Though I think kanicbird is-- well, I can’t say, there are ladies present–his/her position isn’t COMPLETELY devoid of logic. Its just that his/her premises are different from ours. If you believe in spiritual or mystical connections between persons, and further believe that morality is precisely and only what God ordains, then kanicbird’s position on the sins of the father attaching to the sons makes perfect sense. He’s hardly the only person I know who feels this way. Last night, for instance, I overheard a conversation between my uncle and my not-quite-stepdaughter in which he told her, in all seriousness, that the very act of sexual union between a man and a woman connects them spiritually forever (he was explaining why, in his view, premarital sex is not merely immoral but dangerous). Now, I think both **kanicbird** and my uncle are…touched…on issues like this. But they’re not making arguments that are entirely illogical (even though both arguments are idiotic). ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/37 "2009-01-30T17:06:35Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > He didn’t-remember, the whole “Virgin Birth” thingy? The Angel came to her, told her God had said she was the one he had chosen, she agreed, and BOOM!!! Just like that! Actually no agreement was involved. Gabriel told Mary she was going to bear the Christ-child; it’s not like God was asking her permission. She was just chattel, after all. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/38 "2009-01-30T17:17:24Z")
> [@Kanicbird](#): > > The children, infants, unborn children would have been born so steeped in sins of their fathers that God taking them directly out was a divine act of mercy. This quote demonstrates not only the cruelty of the God some worship, but yet again how they completely fail to understand the concept of omnipotence. Even us lowly humans have figured out a way to get kids from unfit parents without murdering them. We create things like child protective service agencies, that are certainly not perfect, but better than “taking them directly out”. An omnipotent/omniscient infinitely loving God could not think of a better way? I bet without even trying, everybody reading this has come up with 2 or 3 better ways a God could fix this situation that does not involve killing the children. Yet some still insist on taking this medieval nonsensical mythology as literal fact. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/39 "2009-01-30T17:17:51Z")
**Omegaman** , can you please explain why you think wearing yarmulke at work is brave. Either the place you work at is scary or you are still in the act of overcoming some old prejudices. If the second, good for you and I hope you reach the point where you realize that wearing a yarmulke at work is not an act of bravery but just something slightly out of the ordinary. The closer you get to NYC, the more yarmulkes you would see in work situations. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/40 "2009-01-30T17:20:50Z")
Forget the yarmulkes, forget the theology, the important question yet unanswered is, is the pittee male or female? Because I’ve just been assuming female. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711.md?page=3)