# Kanicbird. Yeah, It's probably pointless, but.. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 30, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711 "2009-01-30T14:37:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/61 "2009-01-30T18:30:31Z")
> [@Strassia](#): > > FTR, Kanicbird has referred to [her husband](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=9344531&highlight=husband#post9344531)before, and given her positions on same sex marriage, I think it is safe to say that she is female. The linked post is one where **kb** quotes somebody else who mentions a husband. She’s a homewrecker! ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/62 "2009-01-30T18:31:52Z")
Where can I get some information on the Church of the Norse Pantheon? This Thor sounds like the sort of deity I can get behind. My cousin worshiped Heimdal, but he spent most of his time living under bridges and eating Lutefisk. On topic: Kanicbird is a fucking moron. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/63 "2009-01-30T18:34:45Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Where can I get some information on the Church of the Norse Pantheon? This Thor sounds like the sort of deity I can get behind. There’s no church, dude. Thor has no need of worship, and would rather you spent your money on bettering your own life and those around you. All he asks is that you conduct yourself honorably, defend those weaker than you against the minions of Loki, and get out of his way when he’s fighting Frost Giants. And, frankly, that last one is mostly for your own benefit. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/64 "2009-01-30T18:43:50Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > ETA: I don’t know where **Omegaman** hails from, but down here in Memphis, I can imagine some persons I know giving coworkers grief for wearing yarmulkes. Still in these times? Well that is depressing. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/65 "2009-01-30T18:53:55Z")
> [@What\_Exit](#): > > Still in these times? Well that is depressing. ☹ If it makes you feel better, such openly-anti-Semtic persons are in the minority, at least among blacks (though admittedly it’s a good-sized minority). I can’t speak as to how many white Memphians harbor such idiocy, as I strongly suspect that anti-black & anti-Jewish prejudice are strongly correlated. But I would guess that it’s much less than half. ---
**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/66 "2009-01-30T19:02:03Z")
> [@tdn](#): > > I heard the ribs are fantastic. > > I hate that “sins of the father” crap about as much as I hate the concept of karma. Hey, you broke your leg, had your car stolen, and your mom died? Must be because you’re a bad person and deserve that kind of misery. > > Very compassionate philosophy. That’s not quite how it works. Trouble and strife are not punishments for previous behavior, they’re natural occurrences which become opportunities to overcome with grace and balance. Every time you have trouble happen and you give in to your impulses to avoid, evade or behave badly the trouble will come back again harder until you do learn how to do it right–nobody’s imposing it on you from outside, you’re choosing it and creating it by being cowardly and evading. It’s like a kid refusing to eat the vegetables finding them still on the plate at the next meal, just cold and manky and worse than before. It’s also believed by many that souls can and do choose lives that will be hard in order to force themselves to learn a certain lesson or to improve something about themselves that they feel needs work. Karma isn’t something imposed from outside ourselves, it’s the natural consequence of our decisions–good decisions and actions lead to improved circumstances and bad decisions lead to worsened ones. This gets more complicated when you take into account that the surface definition of “good” and “bad” are nowhere near that easy. Something “bad” happens that leads to a decision to overcome and to master a right action, which then leads to something “good,” which if approached with the wrong spirit (greed or lust or overpreoccupation) can have a “bad” effect. Karma is way more complicated than most people think… ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/67 "2009-01-30T19:19:17Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The linked post is one where **kb** quotes somebody else who mentions a husband. > > She’s a homewrecker! :smack:Yes, I misread that on search. But I could swear I have read him/her talking about a husband at some point, but I can be mistaken. Jonathan ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/68 "2009-01-30T19:26:10Z")
[**Kanicbird** is a man.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=3277682#post3277682) Thus ends my prying into the life of someone I don’t know and hardly ever talk to. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/69 "2009-01-30T19:28:55Z")
> [@Nancarrow](#): > > Do you live in a society of Vikings? > > If not, your point = epic fail. You’d think I did. Being English, I’m not a victim of ceaseless oppression by having “In God We Trust” on my currency and having to while away the long winter evenings by marker-penning it out, but I have to have Thor rubbed in my face every time I look at the fucking calendar, _and_ Tiw _and_ Woden _and Frigga_ too. Then I get the Roman gods just when I thought I could relax for the weekend, and then it’s the generic pagans’ turn. Fuckers. > [@Contrapuntal](#): > > So that makes you an atheist, right? So that makes me an atheist, wrong. Not sure where you’d get that from, old chap. Incidentally, Skald, it’s nice of Thor, but I don’t think I can afford as much mead as he could down in even one glug, so going round-for-round with him is small compensation. And I’ll thank you to watch who you’re calling a fundamentalist. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/70 "2009-01-30T19:29:24Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > I believe in the Bible you are to stand up for your enemies, as well as your friends. And, beyond that, as you’ve pointed out upthread, for your beliefs. It is not particularly Christian to give up. If you don’t like it, _change our minds_. That’s the whole point of this! Well don’t think I’ve given up my friend. The difference is I attempt to do the right thing in real life. This is how I’ve lived my life for the the last ten years or so. My past has been not so pleasant and the failures I’ve had in standing up for right in the actual world, give me cause for grief every time I pass a mirror, and they far outweigh any successes. I speak from no position of learning or authority. My experience is from actual experience, not from my debating skills. How can I change your mind on a message board with no ammunition? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/71 "2009-01-30T19:39:46Z")
> [@Strassia](#): > > :smack:Yes, I misread that on search. But I could swear I have read him/her talking about a husband at some point, but I can be mistaken. > > Jonathan Amusingly enough, I always thought _you_ were a chick. ---
**Author:** ![DeadlyAccurate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ac91a4/32.png) [@DeadlyAccurate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeadlyAccurate)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/72 "2009-01-30T19:45:18Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > So the question is, is your memory… **Deadly Accurate**? > > > [@Marley23](#): > > > > [**Kanicbird** is a man.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=3277682#post3277682) Thus ends my prying into the life of someone I don’t know and hardly ever talk to. 😛 Apparently so. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/73 "2009-01-30T20:03:24Z")
> [@Omegaman](#): > > Well don’t think I’ve given up my friend. The difference is I attempt to do the right thing in real life. This is how I’ve lived my life for the the last ten years or so. My past has been not so pleasant and the failures I’ve had in standing up for right in the actual world, give me cause for grief every time I pass a mirror, and they far outweigh any successes. > > I speak from no position of learning or authority. My experience is from actual experience, not from my debating skills. How can I change your mind on a message board with no ammunition? Well, my experience comes likewise. I’d hope that i’m not just good with words but with nothing behind them. Beyond that, you do have some authority, since i’m pretty sure you’re older than me, and have more experience in those terms. It might help if I said what could change my mind; i’d say if you could give me an example where someone with a powerful friend or ally that could remove any trouble or risk could still act in a courageous way, i’d be liable to change my mind if I agreed. ---
**Author:** ![Chief\_Pedant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a6a055/32.png) [@Chief\_Pedant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chief_Pedant)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/74 "2009-01-30T20:03:48Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > [**kanicbird** ’s religious views come from **kanicbird** , not anybody else’s interpretation of scripture.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=10687099#post10687099) The slaughter if innocent children at the direction of Yahweh is clearly described in the Old Testament–\*\*Kanicbird’\*\*s interpretation of why may be her own but the dilemma of having to explain it (or at the least, not denounce it) belongs to every Jew and every Christian. There is absolutely no margin for “interpretation” of what Scripture says was done at God’s direction–all 12,000 inhabitants of Ai, for example (Joshua 8:24ff). Actually, I’ve seen more efforts–inadequate though they may be–of Christians than Jews to explain this away. What I seldom see is a straightforward repudiation from Jews or Christians (b/c the Scripture is pretty clear God ordained it): “That was horrible. That was wrong. You don’t get to conquer a people, kill every single one of them, and take their land just because you think God is telling you to do that.” Now of course, this is what every able and conquering people have tended to do throughout history. It has nothing to do with religion; it’s a condition of man (and other animals, I suppose). Most of us are living on land the more competent stole from the incompetent, and where there were Original Peoples, it’s pretty likely they swiped land and killed other OPs as best their limited abilities allowed them. \*\* Kanicbird’s \*\*problem is trying to excuse it rather than just admitting that Joshua and his pards were mean, aggressive and self-interested. Just like the rest of us. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/75 "2009-01-30T20:12:52Z")
Thank you and may Lord Jesus bless you all. And to answer the long awaited question, yes I am male. ---
**Author:** ![Jodi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/7feea3/32.png) [@Jodi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jodi)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/76 "2009-01-30T20:17:14Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Thank you and may Lord Jesus bless you all. But not, apparently, our children, who will suffer for our sins. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/77 "2009-01-30T20:22:30Z")
> [@Chief\_Pedant](#): > > the dilemma of having to explain it (or at the least, not denounce it) belongs to every Jew and every Christian. And therefore, not to me, so it’s not my concern. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/78 "2009-01-30T20:55:33Z")
> [@Revenant\_Threshold](#): > > Well, my experience comes likewise. I’d hope that i’m not just good with words but with nothing behind them. Beyond that, you do have some authority, since i’m pretty sure you’re older than me, and have more experience in those terms. It might help if I said what could change my mind; i’d say if you could give me an example where someone with a powerful friend or ally that could remove any trouble or risk could still act in a courageous way, i’d be liable to change my mind if I agreed. Man, I hope you don’t think I think of you like that. It’s more than obvious to me that you have experience, of a kind that most people will never have. If I thought your words were empty I wouldn’t have responded to you. When I see your posts I pay attention as many times you say things that are of much value and are about things not found by reading books. I can see that you are a man of conviction and standards, and to me, your beliefs make no difference in the knowledge that your posts contain. I wish had a good example to offer you of sacrifice, I really don’t, but I will share this. I have lost 2 good jobs in the last year and a half due to standing up for people who were oppressed. I don’t really take any satisfaction in it as it only cost me money. But as much as I hate to admit it I am for the most part a weak man, hampered by the fears that keep most people from doing what is right. I don’t want you to change your mind, my friend. Upon further review, I was judging you and you were right to call me on it. I offer my most sincere apology. ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/79 "2009-01-30T21:06:15Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Amusingly enough, I always thought _you_ were a chick. That’s interesting since I sign almost all my posts “Jonathan”. Not that it matter that much, and I have heard it before. Jonathan ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2009, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711/80 "2009-01-30T21:07:18Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Thank you and may Lord Jesus bless you all. In the same vein, may Thor bless you and keep you and defend you from the depredations of Gregy Gargoyle. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanicbird-yeah-its-probably-pointless-but/483711.md?page=5)