# Kansas City Dopefest III - We Never Learn

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 23, 2004, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618 "2004-04-23T13:21:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2004, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/61 "2004-05-06T15:08:47Z")

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> [@sperfur](#):
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> That’s a really good picture of you.

I’m very attractive like that. You want that I should beam you up. I can, you know. Just call me “Captain”.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2004, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/62 "2004-05-06T15:19:48Z")

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Two day sounds good. I’ve only been to the Nelson once, that would be cool. what should I bring this time for goodies?

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2004, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/63 "2004-05-06T18:46:33Z")

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I’m not sure, **Baker** , but I know I loved the delicious goodies that you’ve been kind enough to bring in the past. (You do realize, of course, that you’re more than welcome without the baked treats as well, right?)

At this point we’re still trying to decide what to do on Sunday. Any preference on your part?

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**Author:** ![misstee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/958977/32.png) [@misstee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/misstee)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2004, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/64 "2004-05-06T18:57:25Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> (You do realize, of course, that you’re more than welcome without the baked treats as well, right?)

You’re such a kiss up. 😃

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [May 6, 2004, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/65 "2004-05-06T19:02:38Z")

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> [@misstee](#):
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> You’re such a kiss up. 😃

… if it gets me the opportunity to touch her pastries, I don’t see what your point is. 😉

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**Author:** ![Horseflesh](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horseflesh/32/7502_2.png) [@Horseflesh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horseflesh)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2004, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/66 "2004-05-08T01:19:50Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> At this point we’re still trying to decide what to do on Sunday. Any preference on your part?

I say fell a large tree, tie **Skip** to the middle of it and have ourselves a good ol’ lumberjack log rolling contest. 'Cept we wear razor sharp ice skates instead of boots. That oughta get the blood flowing properly. Winner gets first pick of the **sperfur** ’s private slut-sheep flock.

Should we plan the human sacrifices now, or wait until the new initiates show up and surprise them? And have we decided on clothes or no clothes?

I sure hope our favorite busty, long-legged weather girl has boned up on her meteorology. Last year’s skin-sizzling dopefest was barely countered with the Plaza’s legendary Fountain of Dog Urine And Wino Residue.

What sayeth thou? I mean, thee? Aw heck, what do you Doperth thinketh?

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/67 "2004-05-08T01:33:24Z")

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It will have to be something that travels easily. I love gushy things with whipped cream(_real_ whipped cream, that is!), but keeping them cool would be a challenge. Small tarts, pecan or chocolate pecan? I like baklava too, and could bring it again. A good, firm cheesecake could be good, and I have a new recipe for Key Lime Squares that has a crushed gingersnap crust. Cookies for the kids.  
Any ideas or requests? If we had a cookout I do a good sandwich bun.

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**Author:** ![stormchaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@stormchaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stormchaser)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2004, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/68 "2004-05-08T05:51:35Z")

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Now, if only the Iowa Dopers can find transportaion that will make it there and back. **without breaking down** Maybe we’ll bring the conversion van. If only it did’nt take $80 to fill the gas tank! :mad:

And YES,\*\* Sperfer\*\*, the back seat _ **does** _ fold down into a bed :eek:  
And YES, I _ **do** _ want to watch

I’ve got a camera 😃

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2004, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/69 "2004-05-08T06:21:26Z")

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> [@Horseflesh](#):
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> I say fell a large tree, tie **Skip** to the middle of it and have ourselves a good ol’ lumberjack log rolling contest. 'Cept we wear razor sharp ice skates instead of boots. That oughta get the blood flowing properly. Winner gets first pick of the **sperfur** ’s private slut-sheep flock.

Ahh… dress casual.

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**Author:** ![sperfur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9adbd/32.png) [@sperfur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sperfur)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2004, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/70 "2004-05-08T11:51:48Z")

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> [@stormchaser](#):
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> I’ve got a camera 😃

Good! Then we can mail **withaK** pictures of the show he missed.

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**Author:** ![Mirror\_Image\_egamI\_rorriM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@Mirror\_Image\_egamI\_rorriM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mirror_Image_egamI_rorriM)\
**Post date:** [May 8, 2004, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/71 "2004-05-08T23:06:33Z")

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June 13th sounds good to me. The Plaza or Crown Center is better for me, but I bet I could get to Lawrence if I had to.

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**Author:** ![Wikkit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c0e974/32.png) [@Wikkit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wikkit)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2004, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/72 "2004-05-09T03:33:12Z")

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> [@SkipMagic](#):
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> How’s the date work for you, **misstee** and **Wikkit**? June 13th is kinda around the middle of the month, **Wikkit** , so I wasn’t sure if that was too close for your comfort. (Besides, if cars keep breaking down on the way back to Iowa… :p)

Ah, I suppose it is the weekend mid-June.

You guys will have more fun without me anyway.

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**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\
**Post date:** [May 9, 2004, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/73 "2004-05-09T04:50:58Z")

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Sadly, I won’t be able to make it this time … considering that I’ve moved to Cleveland and all.

My thoughts are with you, though. You’re all great!

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2004, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/74 "2004-05-10T17:03:41Z")

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Well, geez, **Wikkit** , I’m sorry you can’t make it this time. I was hoping that the 13th would be right before your plans hit. I’m sure, though, with the pace of Dopefests last year as an example, we’ll have another one before the year is out. Maybe we can convince **sperfur** to host one in Columbia again. (Assuming, that is, she’s not done now that she got a husband out of these things. ;))

And **elmwood** , I knew that you had moved; I’ve read your threads where you mention Cleveland, but none of that stopped me from orignally looking up your e-mail address to send out a notice, or keeping an eye out for you in this thread. But I’m glad that we were able to meet you the last time, and if you’re ever in KC, give **auntie em** and me a shout so that we can do dinner or drinks.

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**Author:** ![sperfur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9adbd/32.png) [@sperfur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sperfur)\
**Post date:** [May 10, 2004, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/75 "2004-05-10T23:49:14Z")

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Yup - I’ll be happy to host another dopefest at my groovy 70’s pad.

One of the attractions this year will be watching Jasper walk on the treadmill. You can’t miss that.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/76 "2004-05-12T03:04:26Z")

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**June 12th**  
[Nelson-Atkins Museum of Art](http://www.nelson-atkins.org/)

On Saturdays they are open from 10:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m… I’m thinking around 12:00 or 1:00 so that we can all eat lunch beforehand. And we can do that either together or separately. Admission is free for the main collection; it costs to see the special exhibitions, but there doesn’t seem to be any special exhibitions showing in the middle part of June. To make up for that, **sperfur** will dance like a chimpanzee in the main gallery; in all of the other galleries, she will sing any New Kid on the Block song of her choice.

**June 13th**  
Since no one has come up with a groovy place to eat, I say: **PICNIC!**

My thought is to hit [Shawnee Mission Park](http://jcprd.com/parks_facilities/shawnee_mission.cfm), eat a bit and then “hike” on the trail. The trail is about 3 miles one-way, so it’d be another 3 miles back to the cars, or we could walk around the lake back to the cars, which shaves off one mile for an even 5. 😉

This, of course, is not set in stone; we can eat elsewhere (like, for example, inside), and/or we don’t need to actually do anything physical. **sperfur** will still have to sing the day before–that doesn’t change.

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**Author:** ![Mirror\_Image\_egamI\_rorriM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e56c9b/32.png) [@Mirror\_Image\_egamI\_rorriM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mirror_Image_egamI_rorriM)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/77 "2004-05-12T03:42:50Z")

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Sounds like a plan. As for the Mazes and Magic thing at Crown Center, I went this weekend and it was lame. The Nelson is much cooler.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/78 "2004-05-12T05:00:49Z")

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It all sounds good to me. Anything planned for the evening of the 12th? I need to know whether to get a room or not, or go back to Topeka in between.

Off topic: **Horseflesh** , if you see this, could you call either at home or at work. My email is totally screwed up.

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**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/79 "2004-05-12T05:19:39Z")

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Good question, **Baker**. Maybe dinner at night? We could do something region-specific like BBQ, or we could do something more ethnic like [Manny’s](http://www.mannyskc.com/index.htm).

A movie, possibly? Did you have anything in mind?

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**Author:** ![sperfur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9adbd/32.png) [@sperfur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sperfur)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2004, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-dopefest-iii-we-never-learn/241618/80 "2004-05-12T05:36:36Z")

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_panics because she doesn’t know any New Kids on the Block songs_

Can I sing Heywood Banks instead? I know a lot of his stuff.  
So, since we’re doing a 2 dayer, who has ideas for Saturday night? Who wants to _do_ something Saturday night?

Possibilites:

Catch a live band (by the guitar strap)  
Play pool/darts  
Comedian [Gary Valentine](http://www.gofunnybone.com/comedianinfo.asp?comedian=27) (Cousin Danny from The King of Queens) is at [Stanford & Sons in Overland Park](http://www.stanfordscomedyclub.com/cgi-bin/stanford_calendar/overland/calendar.pl?Month=6&Year=2004&config=calendar.cfg) ($17)  
Comedian [Rocky LaPorte](http://www.brewstersonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=19) is at [Stanford & Sons in Westport](http://www.stanfordscomedyclub.com/cgi-bin/stanford_calendar/westport/calendar.pl) ($16)  
[ComedyCity](http://www.instantcomedy.com/ComedyCity.htm) is an interactive comedy club ($13)  
[Raoul’s Velvet Room](http://www.raoulsvelvetroom.com/) has DJ Mike Scott  
[The Phoenix Piano Bar](http://phoenixjazz.net/news.html) has live jazz  
[The Levee](http://www.thelevee.net/?) has [Groove Agency](http://www.boxofchalk.com/html/bands/groove.html), a funk, retro, dance band, as well as 2 patios  
[The River Market Brewing Company](http://www.rivermarketbrews.com/special_events.html) also has live music and all you can eat shrimp for $9.99 every Saturday  
[BB’s Lawnside Bar/BBQ](http://www.bbslawnsidebbq.com/BBsMain.htm) has blues but doesn’t have their June schedule up yet  
[Karma](http://www.karmatheband.com/) is playing at [O’Dowd’s Little Dublin](http://www.odowdslittledublin.com/)

Guess we’re not going to the 150 Years of Office Supplies and Equipment exhibit, huh? Darn.

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