# Kansas City Royals 2015 World Series Champions!!! **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [November 2, 2015, 5:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396 "2015-11-02T05:38:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/21 "2015-11-02T14:58:11Z")
> [@JKellyMap](#): > > Yeah, urbanredneck, that was a tough decision. Harvey’s pitching through so many innings was just phenomenal. And Mets relievers hadn’t been doing so well lately. I can’t fault the decision to leave Harvey in into the ninth, nor the decision to pull him a few pitches later. It’s definitely going to be one of those “what if” moments baseball fans will chew over in the coming years. Familia, the closer expected in the 9th, already had two blown saves in the series. Honestly, Harvey looked solid, and he was so completely confident. He looked like he was going to do it. And Familia now winds up with his[third blown save](http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2585117-jeurys-familia-becomes-1st-ever-player-to-blow-3-saves-in-a-world-series). If nothing else, it’s clear the better pitching staff won. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/22 "2015-11-02T15:34:09Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > It gets worse. > > The Royals victory parade is tomorrow, Tuesday between 11 am and 1 pm downtown. So most kids would have to skip school for the one and only chance to see a World Series parade. And adults skip work. Why couldnt they have it at say 4:40? It will be a mob scene of cars so I dont think I will go. When the Giants won in 2010, I took a vacation day to go to the parade. Lots of prople did. Make it a holiday, and celebrate. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/23 "2015-11-02T15:39:49Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > If there’s ever been a team you can’t afford to leave hanging around, it was the 2015 Royals. The Mets were the latest to learn that. How about the Astros? > [@gnoitall](#): > > Congratulations to the 2015 Royals. Sure enough. They played great. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/24 "2015-11-02T15:42:47Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > Yeah, what happened to that tall Redneck pitcher SF Bumgarner who last season that kicked KC butt? We love him. 3 championships in 5 years. My life is more complete now. And same for the diehard, faithful Royals fans who weren’t around or were too young to remember 1985. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/25 "2015-11-02T15:50:00Z")
> [@Urbanredneck](#): > > It gets worse. > > The Royals victory parade is tomorrow, Tuesday between 11 am and 1 pm downtown. So most kids would have to skip school for the one and only chance to see a World Series parade. And adults skip work. Why couldnt they have it at say 4:40? It will be a mob scene of cars so I dont think I will go. What do you mean “one and only chance”? Rumor has it that Moore and Glass may make a run at keeping Zobrist and Gordan. I can’t see Zobrist staying for the money that the Royal’s can offer, but Gordan might stay for less to try and repeat and be a single team player ala Brett. And a 4:40 parade would be a disaster for those six people working downtown who don’t care and are trying to go home after their work day is over. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/26 "2015-11-02T15:58:02Z")
I’m a Yankee hater, and somewhat of a Red Sox fan, so I rooted for the Royals. Last night’s game was incredible. I can’t believe that stupid manager sent Harvey out for one more inning because the crowd was chanting his name. In case any MLB managers haven’t learned yet, DON’T PAY ATTENTION TO PITCHERS WHO SAY THEY CAN PITCH ONE MORE INNING!!! This was a good series, two extra inning games, lots of scoring, the first extra inning game tied the record for most innings in a World Series game. Even though I didn’t care that much who won it was still one of the more memorable series I’ve seen in the last 50 or so years. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/27 "2015-11-02T15:59:24Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Another fail for MLB. Schoolkids won’t be talking about this for years because MLB insists on postseason games starting so late that they can’t watch them. How much of it is MLB, and how much is Fox? I remember when weekend WS games were played in the afternoon. Of course, with competition from the NFL, this appears to be impossible now - especially as Fox gets better ratings with regular season football than with World Series baseball (and showing it on cable is almost certainly out of the question…then again, are any NBA Finals games shown on ESPN instead of ABC?). Fox has already made it clear in one sport who’s the boss; NASCAR now makes it a point not to have Sprint Cup races on Father’s Day because Fox has the rights to races on that day, and it’s also the day of the final round of the U.S. Open golf tournament, which, not coincidentally, is also on Fox. (NASCAR made it clear that “the stakeholders” were the primary reason for not having a race that day.) The question is, just how many World Series viewers live out west, which is almost certainly the reason for the 7:30 Eastern starts? It’s a choice between starting so late that eastern kids can’t stay up, or starting so early that western kids can’t watch the first few innings. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/28 "2015-11-02T16:01:42Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > I’m a Yankee hater, and somewhat of a Red Sox fan, so I rooted for the Royals. Last night’s game was incredible. I can’t believe that stupid manager sent Harvey out for one more inning because the crowd was chanting his name. In case any MLB managers haven’t learned yet, DON’T PAY ATTENTION TO PITCHERS WHO SAY THEY CAN PITCH ONE MORE INNING!!! The Giants learned this one the hard way in 2002. However, I would have left Harvey in to start the ninth - but I also would have gone with what appeared to be the consensus wisdom and pulled him after the first batter got on base. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/29 "2015-11-02T16:02:31Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > The question is, just how many World Series viewers live out west, which is almost certainly the reason for the 7:30 Eastern starts? It’s a choice between starting so late that eastern kids can’t stay up, or starting so early that western kids can’t watch the first few innings. It’s about money, and kids don’t spend much on beer. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/30 "2015-11-02T16:08:43Z")
Trivia fact; this is the first time since 1989 a team has won the World Series after losing it the previous year. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/31 "2015-11-02T16:20:14Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > It’s about money, and kids don’t spend much on beer. I do the audio-video for a sports bar, and this was just about ideal from their perspective - a game that wasn’t at home, so fans had the choice of traveling halfway across the country, staying at home or watching it with a whole bunch of other fans. They have a 3 AM license and serve food to 1 AM, so last night was a great thing for them. They probably paid off the new projector I installed last week with the revenue from last night alone. ---
**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/32 "2015-11-02T16:21:12Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > The Giants learned this one the hard way in 2002. not sure what you’re thinking of. I remember it being painful, when Dusty Baker pulled Russ Ortiz too early in Game 6. Ortiz should have kept pitching. The wheels fell off when Ortiz was pulled. They especially fell off when Dusty said to Ortiz, who had just started heading to the dugout, “Here’s the game ball. You keep it.” That still hurts. > [@RickJay](#): > > Trivia fact; this is the first time since 1989 a team has won the World Series after losing it the previous year. Ouch, you guys, you sure know how to recall painful memories. 1989 still hurts, but only a little, because the A’s were the clearly superior team. Not like 2002. ETA: but this is about the Royals and their great comebacks. What a memorable Series! I’m going to watch the 9th inning on today. I was dozing off last night - here on the west coast when it wasn’t all that late. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/33 "2015-11-02T16:35:41Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > The Giants learned this one the hard way in 2002. > > However, I would have left Harvey in to start the ninth - but I also would have gone with what appeared to be the consensus wisdom and pulled him after the first batter got on base. The talking heads brought that up last night, I think they were right, you want your closer to start with a clean inning. Sending him in with a run already scored and a guy on second isn’t a good idea. Even after the walk the closer then has to contend with a guy on base that he didn’t put there. ---
**Author:** ![cmkeller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cmkeller/32/118_2.png) [@cmkeller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cmkeller)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/34 "2015-11-02T16:47:52Z")
YES! What an awesome series. What an awesome post-season in general. Heck, what an awesome season overall to be a Royals fan! Roller coaster excitement all the way through, gambles paid off in a victory at the end. Not gonna forget the taste of this one for a long, long time. GO ROYALS! ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/35 "2015-11-02T16:51:24Z")
> [@gnoitall](#): > > Honestly, Harvey looked solid, and he was so completely confident. He looked like he was going to do it. Well, that’s his job, to be confident and want the ball at the end. I get that. However, he was listening to his own hubris, and the manager caved into it. The manager’s job is to do what’s best for the team. In this case, that would have been for Collins to sit Harvey down and use another pitcher, not Familia (two blown saves already, he was in his own head too much at this point). Duda is getting heat, but he should not have been put into the position to make that throw. Harvey put him there. Harvey and Collins are the ones who have to own this. Neither did their job in the end when it counted. Grady Little all over again. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/36 "2015-11-02T16:58:39Z")
> [@Casey1505](#): > > Well, that’s his job, to be confident and want the ball at the end. I get that. However, he was listening to his own hubris, and the manager caved into it. The manager’s job is to do what’s best for the team. Absolutely. It’s a general rule in life, never ask a professional if they can do their job, they’re response should be yes, they should be confident, but it’s the manager’s job to see past that. If we were all capable of judging our abilities effectively we wouldn’t need managers. I don’t know what’s worse in this case, listening to the pitcher, or listening to the crowd. It’s baseball, it’s never over til it’s over, there’s no such thing as an overwhelming lead (especially 2 runs), there’s no clock to run out, your team has to keep pitching the ball and giving the other team a chance to score. This was a monumental screw up. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/37 "2015-11-02T17:06:03Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Even after the walk the closer then has to contend with a guy on base that he didn’t put there. So? He can’t handle an inherited runner? I thought “closers” were supposed to be tough. ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/38 "2015-11-02T17:06:45Z")
All that said, the Royals played a very exciting, entertaining brand of baseball. Their baserunning was particularly good. Given their youth, I see no reason they can’t be a powerhouse for years to come. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/39 "2015-11-02T17:13:01Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > So? He can’t handle an inherited runner? I thought “closers” were supposed to be tough. They are, but why make it harder on him? It was the most critical game of the year for the Mets and there was no reason to put him in that save situation. The stats go down for closing when there are men on base, especially one in scoring position. It’s not the time or place to find out how tough a closer is. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396/40 "2015-11-02T18:59:47Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > The talking heads brought that up last night, I think they were right, you want your closer to start with a clean inning. Sending him in with a run already scored and a guy on second isn’t a good idea. Why not? > [@TriPolar](#): > > They are, but why make it harder on him? It was the most critical game of the year for the Mets and there was no reason to put him in that save situation. The stats go down for closing when there are men on base, especially one in scoring position. Ya think? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-city-royals-2015-world-series-champions/736396.md?page=3)