# Kansas GOP Gubernatorial Primary - conflict of interest?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [August 8, 2018, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271 "2018-08-08T12:55:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2018, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271/21 "2018-08-10T15:05:38Z")

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I agree, but Kris Kobach as governator would suck way worse than my current Gov. Brian Sandoval (he’s been a great Gov. AFAIK), for instance.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [August 13, 2018, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271/22 "2018-08-13T22:21:23Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> Kansas must be a shitty, shitty place to live.

Of course I’m biased, but I think it’s a fine place to live. And hopefully it’ll get better in November.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271/23 "2018-08-14T12:46:37Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Of course I’m biased, but I think it’s a fine place to live. And hopefully it’ll get better in November.

You have a lot more faith in your fellow Kansans than I do.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [August 14, 2018, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271/24 "2018-08-14T17:25:54Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> You have a lot more faith in your fellow Kansans than I do.

It’s probably wishful thinking on my part. Hope springs eternal, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271/25 "2018-08-15T00:36:20Z")

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Aaaand… Colyer has just thrown in the towel.

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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271/26 "2018-08-15T00:44:21Z")

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> [@Shoeless](#):
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> Aaaand… Colyer has just thrown in the towel.

Yep. And now we get to watch Orman split the moderate and Democratic votes, and Kobach will probably be our next governor.

But maybe, just maybe, somebody will find more examples of Kobach’s incompetence and the Kansas voters will see the light.

Ah, hell, who am I kidding?

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271/27 "2018-08-15T01:34:32Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Of course I’m biased, but I think it’s a fine place to live. And hopefully it’ll get better in November.

I hear it’s quite flat. I’d probably feel at home there. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271/28 "2018-08-15T11:20:08Z")

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> [@Railer13](#):
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> Yep. And now we get to watch Orman split the moderate and Democratic votes, and Kobach will probably be our next governor.
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> But maybe, just maybe, somebody will find more examples of Kobach’s incompetence and the Kansas voters will see the light.
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> Ah, hell, who am I kidding?

Yeah if Orman wasn’t in the race I’d feel a lot better about Kelly’s chances. I guess it comes down to whether there are more disgruntled Dem or GOP voters who are willing to vote for an independent. I’m keeping my fingers crossed that he can split more of the GOP vote, but I’m not terribly optimistic.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271/29 "2018-08-15T13:21:41Z")

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You’d need a perfect storm of vote-splitting in exactly the right way, along with a number of other factors, for a Democrat to win a Kansas gubernatorial race. It _might_ happen, but it doesn’t make any sense to count on it.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271/30 "2018-08-15T14:00:23Z")

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Kansas is an interesting state in that regard. It’s been ages since they elected a Democrat to the Senate, but eastern Kansas has elected Democrats to Congress recently and I wouldn’t be surprised to see either the 2nd or 3rd district elect a Democrat this fall. As far as governor, it’s gone back and forth between Democrats and Republicans every term in the almost 40 years I’ve been living here:

John Carlin (D)  
Mike Hayden (R)  
Joan Finney (D)  
Bill Graves (R)  
Kathleen Sebelius (D)  
Sam Brownback (R)

And Brownback came pretty close to losing re-election to Paul Davis (D). So really, we are due for another D. 🙂

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2018, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271/31 "2018-08-15T14:02:49Z")

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This is why I can’t stand third party candidates. Orman seems like a decent guy but he’s just getting in the way, and he’s going to give the race to a right wing extremist.

And what happens in a state like Kansas foreshadows what can happen nationally under the wrong circumstances. Third party candidates could become stronger; counter-intuitively, it also makes fringe candidates stronger.

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**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271/32 "2018-10-31T16:32:47Z")

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Sorry for bumping a three month old thread but I didn’t think it was worth starting a new one. Greg Orman’s campaign treasurer resigned yesterday and endorsed Democrat Laura Kelly.

> **[Orman treasurer quits, endorses Kelly](https://www.cjonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/10/30/greg-ormans-campaign-treasurer-quits-endorses-democrat-laura-kelly-for-governor/9412407007/)**
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> A former Republican state senator serving as treasurer of independent Greg Orman's campaign resigned Tuesday and endorsed Democratic nominee Laura Kelly, declaring her the only viable candidate for g…

Orman has been polling around 10% while Kelly and Kobach are in a tight race. Kelly has been getting a TON of endorsements from moderate Republicans, which I find encouraging. But I still worry about interference and shenanigans from Kobach affecting the outcome.

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**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\
**Post date:** [October 31, 2018, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-gop-gubernatorial-primary-conflict-of-interest/819271/33 "2018-10-31T18:38:10Z")

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There no chance in hell she wins.

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