# Kansas, O Kansas

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 5, 2014, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712 "2014-11-05T05:16:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fallen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e99b99/32.png) [@Fallen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fallen)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/41 "2014-11-05T16:27:18Z")

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I got distracted when I read about “mountain biking” … in Kansas. Huh?

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/42 "2014-11-05T16:31:29Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I do.
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> I’ve been posting here since 1999. You won’t ever find single example of me excoriating the voters for being idiots for electing Democrats.

I’m confident I could.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/43 "2014-11-05T16:40:20Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I’m confident I could.

I’m listening…

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/44 "2014-11-05T16:44:15Z")

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Personally, I tend to blame Democratic candidates when they lose, because most of the time they act like total pussies when they campaign. They lack the courage of their convictions and seem to think it’s more desirable to not offend conservative voters than it is to appeal to liberal voters.

I’ve said before that people want to rally behind a champion. If you sit there and weasel about whether you voted for the president, you deserve to lose.

Here the record to run on is so strong (economics, social policy, foreign policy) that only a milquetoast pantywaist would run from it. Fuck those kind of Democrats until they learn the lesson.

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/45 "2014-11-05T16:45:27Z")

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> [@Megaera](#):
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> how the Muslims are taking over Texas and are going to attack the US next.

I know Texans like to think they are in a whole 'nother country, but I think Texas is still part of the US.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/46 "2014-11-05T16:53:33Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I do.
> 
> I’ve been posting here since 1999. You won’t ever find single example of me excoriating the voters for being idiots for electing Democrats.
> 
> I can find plenty of examples of liberals doing it.

So your posts vs. the posts of nearly everyone else on the SDMB; yeah that sounds like a fair comparison.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/47 "2014-11-05T16:53:57Z")

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In all fairness, if there were really Muslims taking over Texas I’d let them keep it. In some respects, you’d never notice. Oil, fundamentalism, gender inequality and social repression: Texas is like a Wahhabi paradise.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/48 "2014-11-05T17:05:20Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> I know Texans like to think they are in a whole 'nother country, but I think Texas is still part of the US.

The Rio Grande Valley is culturally a whole other place, that’s for sure. And have you ever been to Rusk County in East Texas? Yowsers.

:eek:

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/49 "2014-11-05T17:06:11Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Personally, I tend to blame Democratic candidates when they lose, because most of the time they act like total pussies when they campaign. They lack the courage of their convictions and seem to think it’s more desirable to not offend conservative voters than it is to appeal to liberal voters.
> 
> I’ve said before that people want to rally behind a champion. If you sit there and weasel about whether you voted for the president, you deserve to lose.
> 
> Here the record to run on is so strong (economics, social policy, foreign policy) that only a milquetoast pantywaist would run from it. Fuck those kind of Democrats until they learn the lesson.

Exactly. Well-said.

If any of the silly bastards had fucking **owned** what the Dems have done, they would’ve won in a landslide.

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**Author:** ![Megaera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/megaera/32/1405_2.png) [@Megaera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Megaera)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/50 "2014-11-05T17:58:07Z")

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> [@Kimballkid](#):
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> I know Texans like to think they are in a whole 'nother country, but I think Texas is still part of the US.

I didn’t say it made sense, or was grounded even slightly in reality. I said it because he actually told me that. Along with, almost word for word, what Elliot Rogers said about women. I get this sort of crap every single day, more’s the pity.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/51 "2014-11-05T18:10:33Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> Personally, I tend to blame Democratic candidates when they lose, because most of the time they act like total pussies when they campaign. They lack the courage of their convictions and seem to think it’s more desirable to not offend conservative voters than it is to appeal to liberal voters.
> 
> I’ve said before that people want to rally behind a champion. If you sit there and weasel about whether you voted for the president, you deserve to lose.
> 
> Here the record to run on is so strong (economics, social policy, foreign policy) that only a milquetoast pantywaist would run from it. Fuck those kind of Democrats until they learn the lesson.

Exactly.

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**Author:** ![Lemmytheseal2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/82dd89/32.png) [@Lemmytheseal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemmytheseal2)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/52 "2014-11-05T18:21:47Z")

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> [@Urbanredneck](#):
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> Take the governors race for example. Quite frankly I DID want Brownback out. But I felt that Lawrence liberal Paul Davis, whom I met last June, was too far to the left. The Kansas Democratic party had better people but they chose Davis. Well your funeral. I also wanted Pat Roberts out but Orman wasnt a good choice. Why? He wasnt honest and admit he was a sleeper Democrat running as an independent plus his views on immigration made no sense.
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> BTW, I have inside information on the Kansas Democrats and quite frankly, they are a mess. Way too many top candidates are pushed aside because of the pro-Union side of the party.  
> So please tell me just where the best place is to move?

The US doesn’t really have a Left. The Democrats are bad enough, but the GOP has moved into a mental hospital, and yet they can still win when…

> [@marshmallow](#):
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> Six year itch.  
> Dark money.  
> Voter ID.  
> Dems ran away from Obama.  
> Racism.  
> Media narrative.  
> Diebold.  
> Republican-lite.  
> Lazy electorate.  
> Millennials.  
> Messaging.  
> Gerrymandering.  
> Cynical libs criticizing Dems depressing Dem turnout.
> 
> Seems like only yesterday when people were saying the Dems were going to be ascendent and a permanent majority due to the march of demographics.

… the demographic profile of mid-term voters is so different than that of voters in Presidential elections.

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/53 "2014-11-05T19:20:22Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I’m confident I could.

Well, I’ve been wrong before, but since I don’t recall doing anything of the sort – unless the context made clear I was writing sarcastically or something – put up. Where? I don’t recall ever doing that. Surprise me.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/54 "2014-11-05T19:40:15Z")

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> [@BrotherCadfael](#):
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> An old bit of electoral doggerel:  
> \*  
> The election is over, the results now are known.  
> The will of the people is quite clearly shown.  
> So let’s get together, let bitterness pass,  
> I’ll hug your elephant, and you kiss my ass.\*

Stolen.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/55 "2014-11-05T20:13:45Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Well, I’ve been wrong before, but since I don’t recall doing anything of the sort – unless the context made clear I was writing sarcastically or something – put up. Where? I don’t recall ever doing that. Surprise me.

Well, there is this one for example,

> [@George Zimmerman - In the news again](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/george-zimmerman-in-the-news-again/694480/191):
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> You’ve just disqualified yourself from holding any political office as a liberal — an understanding of simple language means you’re out.

Now it only one and not entirely analogous to what is being discussed, but if there is one thing I’ve learned about Bricker logic is that it only takes one example of something vaguely similar to in order make both sides equivalent with a shout of “Your side does it too”. So we should be done here.

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**Author:** ![JesterX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/439d5e/32.png) [@JesterX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JesterX)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/56 "2014-11-05T20:28:07Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> I do.
> 
> I’ve been posting here since 1999. You won’t ever find single example of me excoriating the voters for being idiots for electing Democrats.
> 
> I can find plenty of examples of liberals doing it.

Guess what’s? You’re not the ONLY conservative and sdmb is not the ONLY forum where conservatives express their views. You want an example . . . [Obama voters wanted “free stuff”](http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/oreilly-minorities-and-women-voting-obama-because-they-want-stuff/)

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/57 "2014-11-05T20:50:46Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> Well, I’ve been wrong before, but since I don’t recall doing anything of the sort – unless the context made clear I was writing sarcastically or something – put up. Where? I don’t recall ever doing that. Surprise me.

What, you want EVIDENCE in support of my confidence level?

Checkmate.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/58 "2014-11-05T20:59:36Z")

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Well, the money has spoken.

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**Author:** ![Dorjan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dorjan/32/12440_2.png) [@Dorjan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dorjan)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/59 "2014-11-05T21:08:37Z")

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The problem isn’t that people are voting against their best interests. The problem is that outside of presidential elections, young people can’t be bothered to actually vote.

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**Author:** ![Lemmytheseal2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/82dd89/32.png) [@Lemmytheseal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemmytheseal2)\
**Post date:** [November 5, 2014, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-o-kansas/703712/60 "2014-11-05T21:15:50Z")

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> [@Dorjan](#):
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> The problem isn’t that people are voting against their best interests. The problem is that outside of presidential elections, young people can’t be bothered to actually vote.

Yes, that too! You beat me to it.

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