# Kansas to Vote on Constitutional Amendment regarding Abortion **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 26, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589 "2022-07-26T13:39:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/21 "2022-08-02T18:13:12Z")
Color me shocked that anti-abortion forces in Kansas are both lying about the effect of the amendment and forcing it onto primary election day to try to get fewer, more rabidly partisan voters involved. Here’s hoping their hypocritical, dishonest tactics fail. I would have thought that Kansas was anti-abortion enough that they wouldn’t have to resort to such underhanded bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/22 "2022-08-02T18:18:55Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > I would have thought that Kansas was anti-abortion enough that they wouldn’t have to resort to such underhanded bullshit. Surprisingly they appear to be [split 50/50](https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/religious-landscape-study/compare/views-about-abortion/by/state/) ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/23 "2022-08-02T18:20:39Z")
Just how gerrymandered is Kansas? I guess I don’t understand how they can be such a red state, voting in idiots like Sam Brownback if they are that close to even. This is off-topic for this thread, but I’m pretty surprised. ETA: Just took a look at that link. I think it would interesting to see how many “legal in most cases” states have made it illegal anyway, and vice versa. In another thread, of course, that I’m too lazy to start. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/24 "2022-08-02T18:46:36Z")
> [@RitterSport](#): > > Just how gerrymandered is Kansas? I guess I don’t understand how they can be such a red state, voting in idiots like Sam Brownback if they are that close to even. Right now the state legislature is extremely idiotic red. And both our Senators are 100% GOP, with Roger Marshall being as far right as possible. But we have a Democratic governor, and one of our four Representatives is a Democrat. (Both, of course, are in extreme danger of losing re-election bids in November.) Up until 2010 or thereabouts, Kansas was almost tolerable. But then the far-right Pubs voted out the moderate Pubs, who have seemed to have completely disappeared. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/25 "2022-08-03T01:39:08Z")
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**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/26 "2022-08-03T01:49:43Z")
Wow. [Two-thirds No, one-third Yes](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/08/02/us/elections/results-kansas-abortion-amendment.html) on approving the amendment to remove abortion rights. Cue Republican cries of “voter fraud!” in 3…2…1… [ETA: Yeah, that’s currently with only 47% reporting.] ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/27 "2022-08-03T01:50:09Z")
A little too soon to be making that declaration. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/28 "2022-08-03T02:08:10Z")
Not really ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/29 "2022-08-03T02:15:49Z")
So other states, at least those with the initiative, should take a lesson from Kansas. Get an abortion-rights constitutional amendment on the ballot. If one can win in Kansas, it can win anywhere. The only problem is that only about half the states have the citizen initiative. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/30 "2022-08-03T02:20:44Z")
58% in and it’s 64-36 in favor of keeping abortion rights in the state constitution. That’s not going to significantly shift. Even the low pop counties voting primarily for removing the rights are still getting 30-40% in favor of keeping them. ---
**Author:** ![flurb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/51bf81/32.png) [@flurb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flurb)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/31 "2022-08-03T02:31:00Z")
63-37 with 82% of precincts reporting. I would not have predicted that. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/32 "2022-08-03T02:36:36Z")
Well. Well. Well fucking well. Finally, I am proud of the state of my birth. Now, what will happen elsewhere? ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/33 "2022-08-03T02:43:23Z")
Everybody said that it would be close. I’m gobsmacked. Good job, (eastern) Kansas! ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/34 "2022-08-03T03:00:56Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > Good job, (eastern) Kansas! Sedgwick County, home of Wichita, second in population in the state, right now is showing 59% - 41%. Seward County, in far southwestern Kansas, is showing 50-50. Riley County, home of Kansas State University, normally quite red, is 68-32. This, my friends, has the potential to be huge. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/35 "2022-08-03T03:09:34Z")
I’m gobsmacked. I thought for sure the vote was going to be close. So now that they’ve gotten the smackdown, what dirty tricks will Republicans try next to thwart the will of the people? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/36 "2022-08-03T03:12:01Z")
I dunno… now watch these same Republicans easily retain their seats later in the year and maybe add a few hardline Trumpetistas. Betcha no Republican incumbent in this primary was getting challenged by a “moderate”. And sure they did not change the constitution but they can always legislate by the ordinary process to make it harder up to the limit it may allow. > [@dtilque](#): > > The only problem is that only about half the states have the citizen initiative. Careful what you wish for. That could turn out badly really easily. … > [@RitterSport](#): > > forcing it onto primary election day to try to get fewer, more rabidly partisan voters involved. Looks like if that was the idea they got too smart for their own good. Sure, program it for primary day, where normally only the hardcore partisans show up. It looks like that’s what happened… for _their_ side. But lookee here, _everyone else_ decided to _also_ show up. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/37 "2022-08-03T03:19:17Z")
I am not surprised. Sure Kansas is not a pro-choice hotbed, but only 20% of Americans want all abortions banned for all reasons. If they had tried “abortions only during the first trimester” or something, it would have passed. Americans do not want to ban all abortion. Most want limits on it, which is fine, depending on those limits. And again- the anti-abortion nuts are not, in any way shape or form- “pro-life”- that is a total and complete lie. ---
**Author:** ![Chingon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chingon/32/17645_2.png) [@Chingon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chingon)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/38 "2022-08-03T03:22:43Z")
You don’t understand what was voted on then. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/39 "2022-08-03T03:25:07Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > If they had tried “abortions only during the first trimester” or something, it would have passed. They didn’t have to do that. Right now Kansas law dictates no abortions after 22 weeks. And no tax monies can be used for abortions. In other words, abortions are rather tightly regulated in Kansas. This was a bullshit proposition. And the GOP got smacked today. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/40 "2022-08-03T03:27:43Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > So now that they’ve gotten the smackdown, what dirty tricks will Republicans try next to thwart the will of the people? Abolishing public referendums would be my guess. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589.md?page=3)