# Kansas to Vote on Constitutional Amendment regarding Abortion **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [July 26, 2022, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589 "2022-07-26T13:39:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/101 "2022-08-21T20:24:42Z")
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**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/102 "2022-09-02T15:09:34Z")
Former Kansas governor Sam Brownback, who single-handedly wrecked the state’s economy, now weighs in on how anti-abortion forces can proceed after the resounding defeat of the amendment. > **[Brownback compares Value Them Both loss to the first battle of the Civil War](https://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article265156631.html)** > > The former Kansas governor encouraged abortion opponents to keep fighting to restrict abortions. > “Something else I think we’ve just got to do is hope a group of conservatives can come in somewhere and buy a major TV station in the state — in Wichita, Topeka, Kansas City — to start getting out the news; instead of calling it the ‘anti-abortion forces,’ call them the ‘pro-life forces.’ “We need a Fox News in Kansas that’s an actual conservative — and like Fox or more conservative, but they can broadcast the local news in this state,” Brownback said. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2022, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/103 "2022-09-02T15:46:12Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > Former Kansas governor Sam Brownback, who single-handedly wrecked the state’s economy, now weighs in on how anti-abortion forces can proceed after the resounding defeat of the amendment. Brownback is a boogeyman in Kansas. Ds running against Rs say that the R is just like Brownback. Rs running against other Rs say that their opponent was Brownback’s BFF4Life. Siding with him on basically anything is suicide. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/104 "2022-09-03T14:20:53Z")
Oooooh, they’re mad. > [@](#): > > In Michigan this past week, two Republican members of the bipartisan Board of State Canvassers blocked initiatives to enshrine abortion rights in the state constitution and expand opportunities for voting. Each measure had significantly more than the required 425,000 signatures. But GOP board members said the voting measure had unclear wording and the abortion measure was flawed because of spacing problems that scrunched some words together > **[GOP escalates fight against citizen-led ballot initiatives](https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-voting-rights-abortion-arkansas-recreational-marijuana-0c003046cc981ebcfb38fa77c1455737?utm_source=homepage&utm_medium=TopNews&utm_campaign=position_8)** > > Hundreds of thousands of people have signed initiative petitions for ballot measures in several states that would expand voting access, ensure abortion rights and legalize recreational marijuana. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/105 "2022-09-03T17:28:25Z")
Well, if unclear wording is a criteria (criterion?) for rejecting it, the amendment in Kansas should never have been on the ballot. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2022, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/106 "2022-09-03T17:53:40Z")
There is nothing Republicans fear more than the will of the American people. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2022, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/107 "2022-09-04T05:22:18Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > if unclear wording is a criteria (criterion?) for rejecting it, the amendment in Kansas should never have been on the ballot. Exactly right. Credit the anti-amendment forces for letting everybody know exactly what was meant by a purposely vaguely worded amendment. ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2022, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/108 "2022-09-12T20:32:24Z")
We’re lucky the MI Supreme Court allowed the amendment on the ballot. This was an unforced error on the pro-choice side. How difficult would it have been to proofread the petition for lack of spaces between words before it was circulated? ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/109 "2022-09-13T01:42:35Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > How difficult would it have been to proofread the petition for lack of spaces between words before it was circulated? My understanding is that the spaces were there in the original word processor version, but the software that converted in into printable form messed up the kerning. Or maybe it was the firmware on the printer. Or a combination of those. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/110 "2022-09-13T03:54:37Z")
And of course, the spacing is by far the most important part of a petition for a plebescite question. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/111 "2022-09-13T03:55:03Z")
I realize I’m jumping in late here. > [@Airbeck](#): > > Is there a party that is pro-drunk driving? I have never seen drunk driving as a topic in a political ad. People may not be pro-drunk driving. But they might be opposed to a specific anti-drunk driving proposal. Suppose, for example, somebody proposed a constitutional amendment that would create mandatory five year prison sentences for every DUI conviction, including the first. A lot of people, even those who favor the criminalization of drunk driving, might say that penalty is too harsh and lead to other undesirable outcomes like prison overcrowding or people fleeing police stops. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/112 "2022-09-13T20:25:57Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > People may not be pro-drunk driving. But they might be opposed to a specific anti-drunk driving proposal. They also might oppose funding a new program to limit drunk driving if the cost is very high, or the proposed methods seem ineffective or even counter-productive. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2022, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589/113 "2022-09-13T20:26:01Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > People may not be pro-drunk driving. But they might be opposed to a specific anti-drunk driving proposal. Right. In general, a slight majority of Americans (per the last poll I read, could be different now) are against abortions. But only 20% want _all_ abortions banned. Americans are leery of late term abortion on demand. An equivalent drunk driving bill would make any BAC above .0.0 = DUI. Few would support that, especially as a decent number of people normally have a very low BAC. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-to-vote-on-constitutional-amendment-regarding-abortion/968589.md?page=5)