# Kansas violinist/singer Robby Steinhardt dies at 71 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** celebrity-death, music\ **Created:** [July 20, 2021, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874 "2021-07-20T05:43:25Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/1 "2021-07-20T05:43:25Z")
He had been ill for several months with pancreatitis and sepsis. Nasty stuff. > **[Robby Steinhardt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robby_Steinhardt?fbclid=IwAR2f2sgKR7Ip3gtiB-Y6DX2pkafFYtMhVBO_AuapRQ8l2MG8_D6Xn7_C6cg)** > > Pages for logged out editors learn more > > > Robert Eugene Steinhardt (May 25, 1950 – July 17, 2021) was an American rock violinist and singer best known for his work with the group Kansas, for which he was co-lead singer/"frontman" and MC along with keyboardist Steve Walsh, from 1973 to 1982 and from 1997 to 2006. He and Steve Walsh were the only original members of the band not from Topeka. > Born in Chicago, Illinois in 1950, Steinhardt grew up in Lawrence, Kansas and was the adopted son... In this documentary, which was probably made for PBS, he said that not only was he always first chair in his school orchestra, he tried out for Kansas All-State Orchestra, at a friend’s suggestion - and was first chair there, too! At that point, he wondered if he might be, like, on to something. > **[Miracles Out of Nowhere (2015) - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4221708/)** > > Miracles Out of Nowhere: Directed by Charles Randazzo. With Phil Ehart, Richard Williams, Robby Steinhardt, Steve Walsh. Miracles Out of Nowhere tells the improbable story of the band KANSAS and the miraculous ride from their gutted school bus, to... He is the first member of this classic 70s/80s prog band to leave us. RIP. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/2 "2021-07-20T12:35:50Z")
Carry on, my wayward son. R. I. P. Robby. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/3 "2021-07-20T12:39:07Z")
I was a big fan of theirs back in the late 70s/early 80s, and still listen to their early stuff (up through “Point of Know Return”) even today. Kansas was one of the few American prog-rock bands, and Robby’s violin was a big part of that. RIP Robby. ---
**Author:** ![solost](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/solost/32/11776_2.png) [@solost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/solost)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/4 "2021-07-20T12:44:31Z")
Saw an article about his death last night with a link to the video of the obvious epitaph song “Dust in the Wind” and watched it in his honor. One of the best songs about the inevitability of change and death ever made, IMHO. Kansas was the first band I ever saw in concert. I was 13 or 14. A couple of my 8th grade friends were big fans, and turned me on to them. I remember thinking they put on a fantastic show, although I had nothing to compare it to. I’ve re-listened to their music over the years, and I think it holds up very well, especially their older stuff that doesn’t have quite the overproduced, prog-rocky late 70s sound of their later albums, like ‘Leftoverture’ or ‘Point of Know Return’, though those albums are still fun to listen to, too. RIP, Robby Steinhardt. > [@cochrane](#): > > Carry on, my wayward son. R. I. P. Robby. Lay your weary head to rest… ---
**Author:** ![Akaj](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/akaj/32/145_2.png) [@Akaj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Akaj)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/5 "2021-07-20T13:24:02Z")
Kansas was my #1 favorite band for about two years in high school. (I was proud of my ability to replicate their distinctive album cover lettering in the margins of my notebooks.) I even bought the solo albums by Walsh and Livgren. But once I caught on that the lyrics were often Christian messages or parables their star started to fade for me. Plus, I discovered Yes and King Crimson. ---
**Author:** ![PackerMan2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/packerman2/32/2894_2.png) [@PackerMan2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PackerMan2)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/6 "2021-07-20T19:36:27Z")
I saw them about 4 years ago in a small theater. It was a fantastic show. They sounded amazing. That documentary is highly recommended. RIP ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/7 "2021-07-20T20:35:46Z")
A little bit underrated was Steinhardt’s talents as a vocalist. He was lead singer on a lot of Kansas’ older catalog, especially the blues-influenced tunes. His voice was less soaring and more gritty than Steve Walsh’s but well suited for the songs from that earlier not-so-prog era. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/8 "2021-07-20T21:00:53Z")
Leftoverture was the first album I ever owned on my own. There was music around from my older siblings but _Carry On My Wayward Son_ was the first song I heard that made me say “I want to get that.” The documentary _Miracles out of Nowhere_ was mentioned. It is a very good doc that deals with the early part of the band. They all participated. But it did gloss over the later issues with the band that I believe mostly happened because Walsh became a dick but also because the band didn’t follow Livgrin’s religious views. The song the doc was named after is maybe the best showcase of Robby’s vocals and violin playing. The violin has a Dixie Dregs feel. [![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/jseTa7HUIDU/hqdefault.jpg "Kansas - Miracles Out Of Nowhere") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jseTa7HUIDU) ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/9 "2021-07-20T21:13:34Z")
> [@Akaj](#): > > Kansas was my #1 favorite band for about two years in high school. (I was proud of my ability to replicate their distinctive album cover lettering in the margins of my notebooks.) I even bought the solo albums by Walsh and Livgren. But once I caught on that the lyrics were often Christian messages or parables their star started to fade for me. > > Plus, I discovered Yes and King Crimson. The spiritual aspects of the band were almost exclusively from Livgren. He didn’t convert to mainstream (but hardcore) Christianity until after the Monolith album. Before that he was into some weird spiritual shit which also found its way into his lyrics. His religion also led to the break up. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/10 "2021-07-20T22:15:15Z")
Yes, Livgren had been raised Lutheran but never really accepted Christ until ca. 1980. Prior to that, he had been studying Urantia, which is a New Age quasireligion that does have Jesus as a character in its 2,000-page volume. I don’t remember any of them, including Livgren himself, talking about his conversion, and the story does pretty much end with the “Monolith” album and changes in the original personnel. Oh, and VH-1 wanted to do a “Behind The Music” on them, but scrapped the project because the band members didn’t have enough hard-luck stories for them. One of them lost an eye as a child but he dealt with it, there was drug use in the band but AFAIK nobody became addicted (except for Steve Walsh, from what I’ve heard), a couple members got divorced but they said that would have happened no matter what they did for a living, that kind of thing. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/11 "2021-07-20T22:22:26Z")
Here’s one of my currently favorite YTers’ opinion of “Magnum Opus.” [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/fyCsEqbwgUk/maxresdefault.jpg "Classical Composer Reacts to Magnum Opus (Kansas) | The Daily Doug (Episode 164)") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyCsEqbwgUk) ---
**Author:** ![Mirtha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/67e7ee/32.png) [@Mirtha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mirtha)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/12 "2021-07-21T02:46:38Z")
All my friends liked Kansas, I just couldn’t. Loved Scarlett Rivera as best violinist, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/13 "2021-07-21T07:09:28Z")
RIP, Robby. Dust in the wind. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![thdudescar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thdudescar/32/4638_2.png) [@thdudescar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thdudescar)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2021, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/14 "2021-07-21T17:41:51Z")
What a wonderful song. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/15 "2021-09-08T14:48:45Z")
The Axs cable channel had “Miracles Out Of Nowhere” on a few weekends ago. I recorded it on the DVR and finally got around to watching it last night. I thought I had seen it before on Axs but apparently I’m remembering a different documentary about Kansas. The one I remember seeing before had a segment where they talked about the photographer they sent out from New York to do the back cover shoot for the first album, and how that whole thing with the band on a hill with the storm clouds in the background came about. I also thought the other one I had seen went at least up through the Monolith album and Steve Walsh’s solo album instead of stopping after Point of Know Return. Anybody have any idea what other documentary I’m remembering? ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/16 "2021-09-08T20:01:30Z")
> [@Shoeless](#): > > The one I remember seeing before had a segment where they talked about the photographer they sent out from New York to do the back cover shoot for the first album, Maybe the one you watched was edited, because I thought that story was in MooN, because they recreated it. Though I don’t remember anything on Walsh’s solo album. (nice album cover, dickwad) We have the dvd, so maybe I’ll have to watch it again. Either way, the song Hold On is just dripping Christian themes. Jesus is outside the door - sooner or later you HAVE to let him in. I just pretend he’s singing about drugs. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-violinist-singer-robby-steinhardt-dies-at-71/946874/17 "2021-09-08T20:50:41Z")
I wondered if maybe the version I saw was edited, because so much of the rest of it seemed so familiar. But I distinctly remember the part about the photo shoot, they were at a truck stop outside of Topeka and were shooting around the building and the trucks when the storm clouds started building, and they went up to the top of a nearby hill and got that iconic photo. (And yes the one I watched last night did have them climbing up the hill at the end to recreate the photo 40 years later. ) I guess I will just have to buy myself a copy of the DVD!