# Kansas -vs- Arkansas

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [May 28, 2001, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-vs-arkansas/66740 "2001-05-28T02:59:06Z")\
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**Author:** ![Markxxx](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@Markxxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Markxxx)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2001, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-vs-arkansas/66740/1 "2001-05-28T02:59:06Z")

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Why are they pronounced differently? Are they derived from different sources?

Basically why isn’t one AR-KAN-SAS instead of AR-KAN-SAW. Or vice versa why not Kan-saw?

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**Author:** ![dqa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dqa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dqa)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2001, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-vs-arkansas/66740/2 "2001-05-28T03:30:20Z")

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Both were part of the Louisiana Purchase. Named after the Arkansas and Kansas river, which were named for the plural of the Arkansa and Kansa Indians.

My take: Arkansas, settled by slower migration of southerners, and closer to the metropolis of New Orleans, kept the French pronunciation already in use. Kansas, settled later (and probably more quickly) by easterners not familiar with the original pronunciation of the French name on the map, lost that French pronunciation, and applied an English pronunciation to the French spelling.

Other state name origins can be found at [this](http://members.toast.net/rculpepp/portfolio/statenames.html) site.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2001, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-vs-arkansas/66740/3 "2001-05-28T03:41:14Z")

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Arkansas used to be part of Kansas, but then they wanted to name it “Arkanoid” in honor of the infamous video game. To compromise, they came up with “Arkansas” (which was, incidently, pronounced “ARE-KANN-ZISS”).

Later, they wanted to change the name of the state _again_ (they’re wishy-washy people, they are), this time to “Coleslaw”. Well, another compromise was reached, and the pronunciation of the state was changed to the now-current “ARE-KENN-SAW”.

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**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2001, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kansas-vs-arkansas/66740/4 "2001-05-28T03:55:48Z")

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A bit of a side note here:

The Arkansas River which runs from Colorado, though Kansas, Oklahoma and Arkansas, is pronouced like the state of Arkansas in Colorado, Oklahoma, and Arkansas, but while in Kansas, it is pronounced “Are Kansas”.

If you ask something about the Arkansas River in Kansas and pronouce it like the former home state of Bill Clinton, you’ll get laughed at. I kid you not.

TV