# Kanye storms stage at Grammys, upset that Beck beat Beyonce for Album of the Year

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 9, 2015, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209 "2015-02-09T12:43:21Z")\
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**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/221 "2015-02-12T16:58:17Z")

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> [@Lemmytheseal2](#):
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> Like I keep hinting, I wonder if any music (or any art) can reach the heights of popularity and still be good. That’s another discussion for another time.

I suspect we’re probably not going to agree on what “good” is. The Beatles would be my example #1 for one of the greatest bands that ever lived and greatest popularity. Prince. Michael Jackson. Queen. Outkast. Kanye. Obviously, we disagree on the last one, but those would be, off the top of my head, artists that are/were immensely popular and, IMHO, wrote not just good, but _great_ music.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/222 "2015-02-12T17:13:04Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Are people really getting bent out of shape over Beyonce’s choreographers “stealing” from Bob Fosse?

I don’t see “bent out of shape” so much as laughing off the idea that the Single Ladies video is anything unique or exceptional.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/223 "2015-02-12T19:10:28Z")

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Yawn, exactly. West and Beyonce are too fucking lazy to be creative on their own, so they “borrow” and “sample” they don’t create. Somebody was clever at ripping off the Netflix idea of releasing every episode or in this case every song at once when they released all of her album . Big fucking deal. There’s always someone who actually took a risk and did it first and did it better than these two.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/224 "2015-02-12T21:34:43Z")

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Led Zeppelin ripped off nearly every blues song they came across…and they were the greatest ever!

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**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/225 "2015-02-12T22:12:29Z")

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> [@CGav8r](#):
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> So, Kanye was so upset that Beck won Album of the Year, that he decided (again) to take the stage - although this time, he managed stopped before interrupting Beck. Instead, after the awards show he showed his irritation:
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> My question: Is Kanye just a wee bit entitled?

No, he’s a huge bit Piece of Shit.

Had I been receiving the award, I’d have had some of my bodyguards give him such a beatdown that Taylor Swift would write a song about it.

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/226 "2015-02-12T22:44:13Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> I don’t see “bent out of shape” so much as laughing off the idea that the Single Ladies video is anything unique or exceptional.

So? [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuNIsY6JdUw) is the music video by Taylor Swift that won the award that year. It’s a stunningly original tale about the ugly girl who turns into a princess and gets the guy. It’s a mind-blowing, utterly unique, original concept.

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/227 "2015-02-12T22:54:20Z")

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> [@](#):
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> I don’t see “bent out of shape” so much as laughing off the idea that the Single Ladies video is anything unique or exceptional.
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> > So? Here is the music video by Taylor Swift that won the award that year. It’s a stunningly original tale about the ugly girl who turns into a princess and gets the guy. It’s a mind-blowing, utterly unique, original concept.

Again, not saying that the Taylor Swift video was all that great. I even said above that the Beyoncé video may have been the best one that year. I have no problem with using Fosse-esque choreography-I love Fosse. All I am saying is that it is far from the best video ever. If Kanye had given an interview where he said that he thought that Beyoncé’s video was better than Swift’s and questioned why Beyoncé won the best overall video that year but not the best female video, I might have agreed with him. However he lost me entirely by saying it was one of the best videos ever.

Also, I don’t see anywhere that I failed to give Beyoncé her props. Personally, I think she is talented, as is Kanye. They may even be artists. That doesn’t stop Kanye from being a jerk.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/228 "2015-02-12T22:56:04Z")

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Even more interesting… if y’all don’t like rap, it looks like Kanye’s next album won’t have much on it with “Only One” and “Four Five Seconds” and now “Wolves” not having any rap on it:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nh7cGquBn4Q/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AGMAoAC4AOKAgwIABABGDcgZShbMA8=&rs=AOn4CLBErHomYJf64-P8uXhE84CWzDvl7w "Kanye West - Wolves (feat. Sia & Vic Mensa) [s/o KTT]") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nh7cGquBn4Q)

(at this point sounds like a cross between “808s and Heartbreak” and “Yeezus”)

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**Author:** ![Aquadementia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aquadementia/32/555_2.png) [@Aquadementia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aquadementia)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/229 "2015-02-13T00:15:26Z")

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It really surprised me that Single Ladies became so popular. It’s so bad and the video somehow made Beyonce’ look bizarre. But people really seem to like it.  
I never watched the whole thing. Does Weird Al show up mid way through? That’s the only way it would make sense to me.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/230 "2015-02-13T00:17:50Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> So?

So therefore people aren’t especially impressed by it.

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> [Here](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VuNIsY6JdUw) is the music video by Taylor Swift that won the award that year.

That’s nice but complaining about Swift’s video doesn’t make Beyoncé’s video any better. It’s entirely possible that neither “should” have won but, once again, the fact that Taylor Swift’s video won doesn’t mean that anyone is “bent out of shape” about Beyoncé’s video aside from saying that it’s nothing special or impressive.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/231 "2015-02-13T00:38:43Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> So therefore people aren’t especially impressed by it.
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> That’s nice but complaining about Swift’s video doesn’t make Beyoncé’s video any better. It’s entirely possible that neither “should” have won but, once again, the fact that Taylor Swift’s video won doesn’t mean that anyone is “bent out of shape” about Beyoncé’s video aside from saying that it’s nothing special or impressive.

To be fair to Taylor at least she writes her own shit. Beyonce just shits where she eats.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/232 "2015-02-13T00:39:47Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> Even more interesting… if y’all don’t like rap, it looks like Kanye’s next album won’t have much on it with “Only One” and “Four Five Seconds” and now “Wolves” not having any rap on it:
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> [http://youtu.be/nh7cGquBn4Q](http://youtu.be/nh7cGquBn4Q)
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> (at this point sounds like a cross between “808s and Heartbreak” and “Yeezus”)

If it’s anything like that piece of dung he sang on Sunday night it will be a “classic”

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/233 "2015-02-13T00:42:41Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Missed the edit. Meant to add that the Fosse elements in "Single Ladies’ are so obviously homage that it’s hard to understand the “stealing” claims. It’s not like the choreographers didn’t know that people would recognize it. Did they go too far? I don’t know enough to say, but dance routines can by copyrighted. I haven’t heard any rumblings about a lawsuit.

Read the article I cited. It’s when inspiration becomes imitation by lazy people who have the resources to be original but they can’t be bothered.

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**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/234 "2015-02-13T00:44:38Z")

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> [@Andiethewestie](#):
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> To be fair to Taylor at least she writes her own shit. Beyonce just shits where she eats.

Nope, nobody getting bent out of shape.

I was never addressing you anyway, Jophiel.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/235 "2015-02-13T00:52:43Z")

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Nope nobody here. Except you might want to talk with Ledisi, the great gospel singer who didn’t get a chance to sing HER Grammy nominated song instead of Beyonce, who was nominated in the same fucking catagory but sung the Selma hymn.

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**Author:** ![Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/58956e/32.png) [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Emtar_KronJonDerSohn)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/236 "2015-02-13T03:01:30Z")

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George Bush doesn’t care about black people :mad:

FWIW I was only dropping in to make zombie jokes and I’m acting out in disappointment.

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**Author:** ![Andiethewestie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba9def/32.png) [@Andiethewestie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andiethewestie)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-storms-stage-at-grammys-upset-that-beck-beat-beyonce-for-album-of-the-year/712209/237 "2015-02-13T21:23:01Z")

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> [@Emtar\_KronJonDerSohn](#):
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> George Bush doesn’t care about black people :mad:
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> FWIW I was only dropping in to make zombie jokes and I’m acting out in disappointment.

Dana Carvey has fun with Kanye’s musical genius

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yz0fIlWwxpI/maxresdefault.jpg "Dana Carvey Impersonates John Lennon & Paul McCartney Discussing Kanye West | The Hollywood Reporter") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz0fIlWwxpI)

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