# Kanye West in trouble for defending his baby momma Kim. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 15, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902 "2014-01-15T20:17:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/1 "2014-01-15T20:17:39Z")
I know Kanye is known for having a temper. I think in this case he was justified in defending his finance Kim. Calling her a Nigger lover and a slut? Yeah, that deserves a punch in the nose. Kanya can afford good lawyers. Hopefully they can take care of this. It could be tricky because Kanye showed up a few minutes later to beat the guys ass. It’s a shame interracial couples still have to put up with abuse like this. > **[Kanye West Allegedly Assaults 18-Year-Old Who Screamed to Kim Kardashian,...](https://www.tmz.com/2014/01/13/kanye-west-fight-n-word-n-lover-beverly-hills-chiropractor/)** > > Kanye West just attacked an 18-year-old guy inside the waiting room of a chiropractor's office ... after the guy allegedly called Kanye the N-word ... TMZ has learned. > **[Kanye West -- Pummeled 18-Year-Old Like A Boxer](https://www.tmz.com/2014/01/15/kanye-west-attack-beverly-hills-kim-kardashian/)** > > Kanye West was like a boxer going in for the kill ... pummeling an 18-year old guy with more than 30 blows ... this according to an eyewitness. > [@](#): > > Kanye West just attacked an 18-year-old guy inside the waiting room of a chiropractor’s office … after the guy allegedly called Kanye the N-word … TMZ has learned. > > Kim was at a Beverly Hills medical building when she was swarmed by photogs. We’re told the guy allegedly tried to help Kim get in the building, as he started screaming, “F **k these fa** ot-ass n **rs"" – referring to the paparazzi. Kim then told him it was not appropriate to use the N-word. We’re told he then screamed at her, "F\*\*k you bitch. Just trying to help you. Shut up n** r lover, stupid slut.” > [@](#): > > The eyewitness tells TMZ … the 18-year-old was sitting in a chair as Kanye made a beeline for him and, without saying a word, started slugging him in the face. The kid was covering his face but Kanye was unrelenting. Kim just stood there and silently watched the beating. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/2 "2014-01-15T20:25:13Z")
Cynical bastard that I am, I’m calling publicity stunt. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/3 "2014-01-15T21:24:47Z")
The Term “fighting words” comes to mind, but he apparently did not directly hear them, so unprovoked assault? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/4 "2014-01-15T21:35:36Z")
Kanye probably will get charged with something. I guess it would have been better if Kim hadn’t called him. It’s really hard for a guy not to defend someone they care about. Those were some very hateful words from a very vile guy. ---
**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/5 "2014-01-15T21:55:43Z")
I dislike Kanye immensely but I have to say if there is a list of good reasons to beat the shit out of a guy, calling your wife a “nigger lover” has to be on that list. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/6 "2014-01-15T22:08:10Z")
IIUC, the guy tries to help Kim get into the building and away from the photographers. In the course of this, the guy refers to the photographers with the F-slur and the N-word, and then Kim rebukes the guy for using the N-word. (Not f_ggot, interestingly). Then the guy calls Kim a n_gger lover and stupid sl\*t. But this part I don’t understand - > [@](#): > > she watched the guy walk into an office. As they were walking we’re told the guy continued berating Kim. She dialed Kanye on his cell, and when the guy realized Kanye was on the phone he allegedly said, “F\*\*k you N\*\*\*\*r.” Kanye – who had just arrived at the building – then met up with Kim. Did she go with him into the office? Then West attacks the guy. > [@](#): > > Kanya can afford good lawyers. Hopefully they can take care of this. It could be tricky because Kanye showed up a few minutes later to beat the guys ass. Yes, tricky. If I were West’s lawyer (I am not, nor anyone else’s) I would advise him to settle out of court. I very much doubt if there is legal justification for beating someone up now for something he said a few minutes ago, especially if he is (allegedly) sitting in a chair. Perhaps one of the Great Legal Minds of the SDMB can chime in. Is there a “fighting words” exception that would apply if someone calls your girlfriend hideous names? Regards, Shodan PS - I assume the guy is white, or at the least, not black. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/7 "2014-01-15T22:11:40Z")
Crazy prediction: it’s going to turn out this didn’t happen as exactly as it was breathlessly described. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/8 "2014-01-15T22:14:39Z")
It might even be that, once money changes hands, it didn’t happen at all. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/9 "2014-01-15T22:45:47Z")
Kim is decsribed as a “baby momma” in the thread title, and a “finance” in the first post. I’m guessing the second is a spell check error, but where does the first come from? Is this some cultural nuance I’m missing? ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/10 "2014-01-15T22:49:04Z")
Kanye and Kim remind me of Sean Penn and Madonna. Sean hates the paparazzi and marrying Madonna put him in that spotlight. He was always blowing up and getting into fights with them. The media glare helped kill their marriage. Kanye has the same personality. Big ego, easily offended, and short tempered. I can’t see his relationship with Kim surviving the constant paparazzi attention. Kim loves fame and needs the paparazzi for her career. Kanye hates them. Kim and Kanye had a baby together last year. So she’s Kanye’s baby momma. I heard the term from some college kids where I work. It’s shorthand for saying, She’s the mother of my child. > [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Kim is decsribed as a “baby momma” in the thread title, and a “finance” in the first post. I’m guessing the second is a spell check error, but where does the first come from? Is this some cultural nuance I’m missing? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/11 "2014-01-15T22:57:50Z")
While I am sure that there are people who use babymama indiscriminately, usually it is reserved for a woman the speaker does not have a current relationship with. They’re not their wife or girlfriend, they’re a babymama, the mother of their kids. Also, it’s usually slightly disparaging, because why else wouldn’t the father want to continue the relationship. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/12 "2014-01-15T23:04:59Z")
There’s been a similar controversy over Tamera Mowry’s marriage. For those who don’t recall, Tamera and Tia Mowry are twin sisters who had a couple of sitcoms a decade or so ago. Time has moved on and both sisters are now married. But Tia’s husband is black while Tamera’s husband is white. And Tamera says that she and her husband have had to deal with a lot of hostility over having an interracial marriage. The irony, which shows how stupid racism is at its core, is that the Mowry sisters are themselves biracial - their mother is black and their father is white. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/13 "2014-01-15T23:08:54Z")
I didn’t realize that. I just heard the phrase and started using it. I’m glad you pointed out my mistake. I’ll avoid that phrase from now on. > [@Inner\_Stickler](#): > > While I am sure that there are people who use babymama indiscriminately, usually it is reserved for a woman the speaker does not have a current relationship with. They’re not their wife or girlfriend, they’re a babymama, the mother of their kids. Also, it’s usually slightly disparaging, because why else wouldn’t the father want to continue the relationship. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/14 "2014-01-15T23:48:42Z")
I’ll treat this as a potty break in my hating the guy. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2014, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/15 "2014-01-15T23:59:41Z")
As big of a douchebag as the man is, if the story is as reported, he gets a total pass from me. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/16 "2014-01-16T00:21:53Z")
Just wanted on record that “baby momma” and “baby daddy” represent everything that needs to be said about the decline of civilization. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/17 "2014-01-16T00:31:49Z")
Taking the story at face value, it sounds like a big pay day for the punchee. Someone calling you obnoxious names isn’t justification to physically assault them. Certainly not in the eyes of the courts. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/18 "2014-01-16T00:34:28Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > Just wanted on record that “baby momma” and “baby daddy” represent everything that needs to be said about the decline of civilization. That is all. If that’s the best you can come up with as an example of a declining civilization, you’re never going to make pro. ---
**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/19 "2014-01-16T00:38:03Z")
How about climbing on stage and taking the mike from the speaker? Guys who did that used to get assisted into the trunk of their cars. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2014, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902/20 "2014-01-16T01:19:35Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > If that’s the best you can come up with as an example of a declining civilization, you’re never going to make pro. No, it’s everything that _needs to be said_ - all else can be inferred. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-in-trouble-for-defending-his-baby-momma-kim/678902.md?page=2)