# Kanye West is a complete fucking idiot

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 25, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927 "2010-11-25T23:21:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/1 "2010-11-25T23:21:31Z")

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[http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hiphopmediatraining/317955/kanye-west-says-taylor-swifts-2009-vma-win-was-disrespectful-claims-today-exploited-him/](http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/hiphopmediatraining/317955/kanye-west-says-taylor-swifts-2009-vma-win-was-disrespectful-claims-today-exploited-him/)

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> West said he does not regret interrupting Swift’s first Video Music Award win speech to champion Beyonce instead.
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> “When you do things like what happened last year, it’s disrespectful to everyone who’s creative,” West said about MTV’s decision to give Swift the honor. “It’s a slap in the face to everyone who tries to do something real.”
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> West implied that Swift and the VMA producers are lucky his disruption was brief..
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> “If I wasn’t drunk, I would have been on stage longer,” he said.

Dude, you fucking stole somebody’s brief spot in the limelight, even the POTUS thinks you’re a dickweed, and you still have the balls (or the childishness) to call losing an award “a slap in the face?” Stay classy, buddy :rolleyes:

In other words: YOU FUCKING SUCK!

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**Author:** ![BubbaDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bubbadog/32/333_2.png) [@BubbaDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BubbaDog)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/2 "2010-11-26T00:14:20Z")

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I think you misunderstood the true eloquence of his statements.

Let me paraphrase that quoted paragraph for you so that it might be easier understood by the layman.

“Waah Wahh I’m not getting any attention! Waah Waah Waah - I need more attention!”  
I hope that clears things up.

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/3 "2010-11-26T00:47:03Z")

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Ah, yes…now I get it! I guess his sophisticated comments just went over my head. After all, I know nothing about the entertainment industry or the pain of losing and MTV Video Music Award (the pain! the hurt!). Kudos to you, good sir, for helping me understand.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/4 "2010-11-26T01:00:01Z")

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He threw a fit on stage the year before when HE didn’t win, IIRC. He also claimed his feelings were hurt by the [“Fishsticks”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishsticks_%28South_Park%29#Reception) episode of _South Park_:

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> West wrote on his blog, “South Park murdered me last night and it’s pretty damn funny. It hurts my feelings but what can you expect from South Park!” West thanked the South Park writers in his blog entry and acknowledged he has a problem with his ego, but said he was trying to change. Parker and Stone said they were extremely surprised by West’s reaction, and felt Mencia was treated far more harshly in the episode than West. Parker said, “It was like, dude, we just said you were a gay fish. What are you talking about? It was so dumb.”

:rolleyes:

Oh, and he is [God’s Chosen One](http://www.popcrunch.com/kanye-west-god-chose-me/)

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/5 "2010-11-26T01:09:47Z")

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Kanye’s new album is seriously amazing. Absolutely amazing. As such, keep spreading the crazy, Yeezy-- I don’t mind if it makes albums like this.

Oh and on one song he makes a joke about the South Park thing, so I think he got over it. Actually, if I remember correctly, his blog at the time of the South Park episode actually said that it hurt his feelings, but it did cause a little introspection- he realized he does take himself too seriously blah blah.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/6 "2010-11-26T01:17:54Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> He also claimed his feelings were hurt by the [“Fishsticks”](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fishsticks_%28South_Park%29#Reception) episode of _South Park_:
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> :rolleyes:

Here we go, the relevent quotes from the blog you’re talking about. Honestly, I don’t see a damned thing inappropriate about what he’s saying here. Maybe you don’t like the guy, which is fine, but there are more legitimate reasons to dislike him than this:

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> " ‘South Park’ murdered me last night, and it’s pretty funny. It hurts my feelings, but what can you expect from ‘South Park?’. . .I actually have been working on my ego. … Having the crazy ego is played out at this point in my life and career. I used to use it to build up my esteem when nobody believed in me. Now that people do believe and support my music, the best response is ‘Thank you’ instead of ‘I told you so!’
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> “I just wanna be a doper person, which starts with me not always telling people how dope I think I am. I need to just get past myself. Drop the bravado and just make dope product…As long as I act like a b—h, this type of sh-- will happen to me. … I’m not actually a huge douche. I’m sure the writers at ‘South Park’ are really nice people in real life. Thanks for taking the time to draw my crew. That was pretty funny also.”

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/7 "2010-11-26T01:44:21Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> Kanye’s new album is seriously amazing. Absolutely amazing.

My favourite album of the year. I might not agree with everything he says or does but _fucking hell_ his music is phenomenal. I think he’s the best new artist of the past decade.

I don’t know why Kanye riles people up so much, unless they’re fans who are annoyed his antics are distracting from the music, which is a point I could understand. If that’s not the problem… why does he bring out such anger in people? It’s not as if he’s a political figure or something, he’s just a popstar.

The Taylor Swift thing happened approximately four million years ago, I wish everyone (including Kanye) would move on.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/8 "2010-11-26T01:47:52Z")

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> [@multimediac17](#):
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> My favourite album of the year. I might not agree with everything he says or does but _fucking hell_ his music is phenomenal. I think he’s the best new artist of the past decade.

His music in general is amazing, but MBDTF is seriously amazing. I’ve probably listened to it 200 times by now (it’s on repeat on my computer at work) and it’s still epic. Start to finish, an amazing album.

The guy says some stupid shit sometimes, but that’s sort of the way of crazy artists, no? Plus, I’m pretty sure you guys just don’t care about black people.

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/9 "2010-11-26T01:50:03Z")

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> [@multimediac17](#):
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> The Taylor Swift thing happened approximately four million years ago, I wish everyone (including Kanye) would move on.

This. I’m not sure what would make Kanye bring this shit up again more than a year later. What, was the negative press fading too quickly for him?

Just put music out, dude.

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/10 "2010-11-26T01:54:38Z")

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> [@multimediac17](#):
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> why does he bring out such anger in people? It’s not as if he’s a political figure or something, he’s just a popstar.

Right, but not even many popstars reach his level of “ultra-ego-maniac-douchebag-crybaby,” I don’t think. He comes off a the biggest self-important attention-whore AND, if that wasn’t bad enough, everything is always everyone else’s fault, never his. He blames Taylor Swift for not sticking up for him in interviews? WHY THE FUCK WOULD SHE? He throws a fucking temper tantrum because he didn’t win an award? Dude, grow up.

I can overlook an artist’s assholishness if they make great music (Oasis is my favorite band and all), but Kanye is too fucking over-the-top even for me. He’s gonna be working at a Long John Silver’s before showing up on one of those VH1 “Where Are They Now?” shows 20 years from now if he keeps this shit up.

> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> The guy says some stupid shit sometimes, but that’s sort of the way of crazy artists, no?

Um, no. “We’re bigger than Jesus” is endearing. “I acted like an asshole on national television, embarrassed one artist by stealing her acceptance speech time, then embarrassed another by saying she should have won, then had a heart-to-heart with the world about it via Twitter, THEN said I didn’t regret it” is just stupid.

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/11 "2010-11-26T01:54:41Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> His music in general is amazing, but MBDTF is seriously amazing. I’ve probably listened to it 200 times by now (it’s on repeat on my computer at work) and it’s still epic. Start to finish, an amazing album.

It has led me to have a COMPLETE AND TOTAL CRISIS because now I can’t decide which of his albums is better, _The College Dropout_, _808s & Heartbreaks_ or _My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy_. I was sure it was _808s_ when it first came out, then I went back to _College_ and now with the release of this new album I’m just a confused mess. Help me, oh great Kanyesus, help me decide!

But yes, the new album is a masterpiece. I look forward to little bits of the songs like I’d look forward to great scenes in a film.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/12 "2010-11-26T02:00:05Z")

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> [@xenophon41](#):
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> This. I’m not sure what would make Kanye bring this shit up again more than a year later. What, was the negative press fading too quickly for him?
> 
> Just put music out, dude.

Not to be this person, but she started it with the VMAs this year with her crazy ass maudlin performance (I mean started it by bringing it back up. Kanye had basically gone into seclusion). It started with them replaying the clip of Kanye interrupting her, then she sang this sorrowful song about Kanye being innocent, all while she was bare foot and wore a white dress. Naturally, at the end of the performance, the sun rose in the background.

Since that happened a few months ago, she’s had a huge hit record again, so people keep bringing it up in the media. Even when Kanye and Bush had their little thing a few weeks ago, when Kanye spoke about it, they asked him about Taylor swift again.

> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> He’s gonna be working at a Long John Silver’s before showing up on one of those VH1 “Where Are They Now?” shows 20 years from now if he keeps this shit up.

Yes, you’re 100% right. That poor Kanye West with his lack of hit albums and production deals is one step away from working fast food. Poor guy. You realize he’s already been around-- attitude and all- for a while now?

PS: His album is set to be the number 1 album in the country next week.

> [@multimediac17](#):
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> It has led me to have a COMPLETE AND TOTAL CRISIS because now I can’t decide which of his albums is better, _The College Dropout_, _808s & Heartbreaks_ or _My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy_. I was sure it was _808s_ when it first came out, then I went back to _College_ and now with the release of this new album I’m just a confused mess. Help me, oh great Kanyesus, help me decide!
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> But yes, the new album is a masterpiece. I look forward to little bits of the songs like I’d look forward to great scenes in a film.

The SAME thing happened to me. Honestly, nothing can beat MBDTF. Maybe it’s just because the record is new, but like I said, I’ve played it about a million times and it’s still amazing.

To reference, since I know we agree on music here . . . dare I say. . . it’s better than _Blackout._

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/13 "2010-11-26T02:05:33Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> Right, but not even many popstars reach his level of “ultra-ego-maniac-douchebag-crybaby,” I don’t think. He comes off a the biggest self-important attention-whore AND, if that wasn’t bad enough, everything is always everyone else’s fault, never his. He blames Taylor Swift for not sticking up for him in interviews? WHY THE FUCK WOULD SHE? He throws a fucking temper tantrum because he didn’t win an award? Dude, grow up.
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> I can overlook an artist’s assholishness if they make great music (Oasis is my favorite band and all), but Kanye is too fucking over-the-top even for me. He’s gonna be working at a Long John Silver’s before showing up on one of those VH1 “Where Are They Now?” shows 20 years from now if he keeps this shit up.

I don’t even really disagree with you (except that bit about his career ending if he continues, I don’t think that’ll happen), I suppose it’s just I can’t imagine getting so riled over something ultimately inconsequential that Kanye West, or any celebrity, does or says - and I’m one of those people who frequents gossip sites and cries when a celebrity they like dies, so I’m absolutely not trying to be “above” anyone who is interested in pop culture.

Now I don’t mean to say that you’re huffing and puffing, bashing away at the keyboard while taking breaks to practice your aim on a specially made Kanye dartboard, I know this most likely does not impact you or your real life in any way. I mean it more generally, like Kanye in particular seems to be the centre of a “hatedom”, and even with his assholishness it still seems overboard. (Again, that doesn’t necessarily refer to you specifically).

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/14 "2010-11-26T02:05:59Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> Yes, you’re 100% right. That poor Kanye West with his lack of hit albums and production deals is one step away from working fast food. Poor guy.
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> PS: His album is set to be the number 1 album in the country next week.

As a wise man once said, “You can’t fool all of the people all of the time.” His egomania will eventually alienate even those diehard fans. He’s not “asshole” good and never will be.

You seem to be head-over-heels in love with him, though. Do you work for his PR team?

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/15 "2010-11-26T02:07:49Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> You seem to be head-over-heels in love with him, though. Do you work for his PR team?

Nope, I don’t work for his PR team. I actually _am_ Kanye West.

I mean, hey: that’s the only logical thing if I disagree with you, right?

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**Author:** ![xenophon41](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xenophon41/32/253_2.png) [@xenophon41](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xenophon41)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/16 "2010-11-26T02:09:11Z")

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Kanye’s best reaction to Taylor Swift’s awkward reprise woulda maybe been some sort of shrug about it. Or a statement that he’s glad Taylor’s getting past it (however facile that might’ve been, seeing as she’s obviously not). Anything but an attempt to justify it.

But he’s not a very bright guy. Great artist, IMO, but kinda dim. If he’s gonna stick up for anything he said, the Katrina remarks would be the thing to defend, but he walked those back instead of the Swiftus Interruptus thing. Dumb.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/17 "2010-11-26T02:09:45Z")

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You misspelled “Douchebag”.

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/18 "2010-11-26T02:11:28Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> The SAME thing happened to me. Honestly, nothing can beat MBDTF. Maybe it’s just because the record is new, but like I said, I’ve played it about a million times and it’s still amazing.
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> To reference, since I know we agree on music here . . . dare I say. . . it’s better than _Blackout._

Oh my gawwwwd, not _Blackout_! As it is a known fact that I worship at the altar of The Legendary Miss Britney Spears and shall always cherish the gift that she bestowed upon us normals in the form of _Blackout_, I’m not sure I can quite get on board with that.

But _MBDTF_ does come close, maybe closer than any other album released since _Blackout_. And then a little voice says to me “but what about _808s_?” and then I go spiralling into that CRISIS again.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/19 "2010-11-26T02:12:19Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> His music in general is amazing, but MBDTF is seriously amazing. I’ve probably listened to it 200 times by now (it’s on repeat on my computer at work) and it’s still epic. Start to finish, an amazing album.

Okay, so I have to get a Britney album and a Kanye album now. Happy? 🙂

> [@](#):
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> The guy says some stupid shit sometimes, but that’s sort of the way of crazy artists, no? Plus, I’m pretty sure you guys just don’t care about black people.

Yeah, it’s true. ☹  
Speaking of people supporting crazy artists, Prince is a whole ball of whack, but when you’re _that_ good, it just doesn’t matter. I don’t know if Kanye is at that level, but I don’t listen to an artist’s personality.

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/20 "2010-11-26T02:13:34Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> Nope, I don’t work for his PR team. I actually _am_ Kanye West.
> 
> I mean, hey: that’s the only logical thing if I disagree with you, right?

No, but it’s a more plausible explanation of what seems to be your Kanye West superfandom. It’s sad, really.

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