# Kanye West is a complete fucking idiot

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 25, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927 "2010-11-25T23:21:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/21 "2010-11-26T02:17:02Z")

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> [@xenophon41](#):
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> Kanye’s best reaction to Taylor Swift’s awkward reprise woulda maybe been some sort of shrug about it. Or a statement that he’s glad Taylor’s getting past it (however facile that might’ve been, seeing as she’s obviously not). Anything but an attempt to justify it.
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> But he’s not a very bright guy. Great artist, IMO, but kinda dim. If he’s gonna stick up for anything he said, the Katrina remarks would be the thing to defend, but he walked those back instead of the Swiftus Interruptus thing. Dumb.

I thought he played it off beautifully-- his performance of ‘Runaway’ at the close of the show was a perfect juxtoposition of her performance at the start of it. C’mon, [tell me this isn’t amazing?](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V35dIdh9ogs) And the lyrics are simultaneously self depreciating, but . . . still very Kanye-ego.

In fact, since it’s bleeped, here are the relevant lyrics:

> [@](#):
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> And I always find, yeah, I always find somethin’ wrong  
> You been puttin’ up wit’ my shit just way too long  
> I’m so gifted at findin’ what I don’t like the most  
> So I think it’s time for us to have a toast
> 
> Let’s have a toast for the douchebags,  
> Let’s have a toast for the assholes,  
> Let’s have a toast for the scumbags,  
> Every one of them that I know  
> Let’s have a toast to the jerkoffs  
> That’ll never take work off  
> Baby, I got a plan  
> Run away fast as you can

Now, the song is actually about a girl in a bad relationship with him, but it was too perfect, imho.

> [@multimediac17](#):
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> Oh my gawwwwd, not _Blackout_! As it is a known fact that I worship at the altar of The Legendary Miss Britney Spears and shall always cherish the gift that she bestowed upon us normals in the form of _Blackout_, I’m not sure I can quite get on board with that.
> 
> But _MBDTF_ does come close, maybe closer than any other album released since _Blackout_. And then a little voice says to me “but what about _808s_?” and then I go spiralling into that CRISIS again.

Um, excuse me: you sure do seem to love Britney. YOU’RE BRITNEY SPEARS, AREN’T YOU? THAT’S THE ONLY LOGICAL EXPLANATION OF WHY YOU’D LIKE HER.

I’m on to you. . .

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/22 "2010-11-26T02:17:44Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> It’s sad, really.

Sadder than starting an angry pit thread over something Kanye West said?

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/23 "2010-11-26T02:21:03Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Okay, so I have to get a Britney album and a Kanye album now. Happy? 🙂
> 
> \<SNIP\>
> 
> Speaking of people supporting crazy artists, Prince is a whole ball of whack, but when you’re _that_ good, it just doesn’t matter. I don’t know if Kanye is at that level, but I don’t listen to an artist’s personality.

‘Blackout’ is straight up fuckin’ music. If you need a CD to get down to, it’s 'Blackout." Though, I also listen to ‘Blackout’ when I go to the gym, so I guess it’s not limited strictly to the bedroom :D.

Kanye’s new album is just awesome. It’s definitely more mellow, but still hits pretty hard.

More importantly, though, your Prince superfandom is really offending me. ARE YOU PRINCE? Don’t you dare fucking lie to me. It’s the only plausible explanation of why you’d post about a musician and honestly? It’s really like, sad and shit, tbqh.

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/24 "2010-11-26T02:22:20Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> Um, excuse me: you sure do seem to love Britney. YOU’RE BRITNEY SPEARS, AREN’T YOU? THAT’S THE ONLY LOGICAL EXPLANATION OF WHY YOU’D LIKE HER.
> 
> I’m on to you. . .

Britney Spears on the Straight Dope y’all! I hear some of y’all don’t like me over in Cafe Society, that’s super mean you guys! Buy my perfume!

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/25 "2010-11-26T02:25:21Z")

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> [@multimediac17](#):
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> Britney Spears on the Straight Dope y’all! I hear some of y’all don’t like me over in Cafe Society, that’s super mean you guys! Buy my perfume!

Now I know you’re lying. Britney’s posts would be like this:

“Mz Britn3y \<3\<3\<3 on the Straight Dope y’all!!!111111!!! Buy mah “Fantasy” sc3nted Ch33tos, y’all!!! Look at mah knees! They look like b00bs!!! HUH!!!”  
Extra Britney points if you get the last two references.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/26 "2010-11-26T02:27:15Z")

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I AM Prince! How did you figure it out? No, wait, I’m not Prince - you can’t prove anything!

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/27 "2010-11-26T02:30:30Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> Now I know you’re lying. Britney’s posts would be like this:
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> “Mz Britn3y \<3\<3\<3 on the Straight Dope y’all!!!111111!!! Buy mah “Fantasy” sc3nted Ch33tos, y’all!!! Look at mah knees! They look like b00bs!!! HUH!!!”  
> Extra Britney points if you get the last two references.

Some of the funniest stuff on the Fug Girls site is when they’re [channelling Britney Spears](http://gofugyourself.celebuzz.com/go_fug_yourself/britney_spears/) (and J-Lo, but that’s not important right now).

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**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/28 "2010-11-26T02:30:34Z")

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> [@DiosaBellissima](#):
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> Now I know you’re lying. Britney’s posts would be like this:
> 
> “Mz Britn3y \<3\<3\<3 on the Straight Dope y’all!!!111111!!! Buy mah “Fantasy” sc3nted Ch33tos, y’all!!! Look at mah knees! They look like b00bs!!! HUH!!!”  
> Extra Britney points if you get the last two references.

Ooh ooh ooh _sticks hand in the air_ I think that last one is from Chaotic (though I’ve never seen it - I am ashamed) and Cheetos are of course Britney’s favourite food, she eats them for every meal, and has had it put in her contract that every photo shoot must include one photo of Britney with Cheetos. Of course, Britney’s obsession with the snack food culminated in a 48-hour Vegas marriage to a bag of Cheetos that was pinpointed as the beginning of her fall from grace.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/29 "2010-11-26T02:44:36Z")

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> [@multimediac17](#):
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> Ooh ooh ooh _sticks hand in the air_ I think that last one is from Chaotic (though I’ve never seen it - I am ashamed) and Cheetos are of course Britney’s favourite food, she eats them for every meal, and has had it put in her contract that every photo shoot must include one photo of Britney with Cheetos. Of course, Britney’s obsession with the snack food culminated in a 48-hour Vegas marriage to a bag of Cheetos that was pinpointed as the beginning of her fall from grace.

Yes, you are correct that it is from Chaotic. Though the second thing I was referencing was the “HUH?!” and [that is this fabulous extra](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feiw_etAra0) from the Chaotic DVD. No, but really: who thought it was a good idea to put that on DVD? Fucking Kfed. . .

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/30 "2010-11-26T03:05:21Z")

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What, no “I’m really happy for you, and I’m gonna let you finish, but…” joke?

Why does he think Taylor needs to defend him now? Dude, it’s over, let it go. Seriously, the guy’s so constantly butthurt he should buy stock in Preperation H. 😛

He doesn’t really get my dander up that much. I don’t like him, but it’s more like I find him pathetic and amusing in a “PALATR” way.

😉

(Although **kidneyfailure** , you’re pretty much acting a wee bit like Kanye yourself)

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/31 "2010-11-26T03:12:01Z")

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Kanye’s a jackass. I was there for his disastrous performance at Bonnaroo in 2008, so my feelings on the subject far pre-dated his VMA shenanigans.

That’s why I wish he’d stop making brilliant albums, so I could just forget about him. I was hopeful with _Graduation_, which was a big step down despite some good singles. But dammit, _MBDTF_ is great. I can’t decide how I’d rank it with _The College Dropout_ and _Late Registration_, but it’s definitely up there.

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/32 "2010-11-26T03:14:18Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> (Although **kidneyfailure** , you’re pretty much acting a wee bit like Kanye yourself)

Yeah, but I’m “asshole” good. Duh! 😃

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/33 "2010-11-26T03:14:30Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I AM Prince! How did you figure it out? No, wait, I’m not Prince - you can’t prove anything!

Of course you’re not – you’re Batman.

ETA: or perhaps **Cat** man.

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**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/34 "2010-11-26T03:58:43Z")

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The wife and I will never know if Kanye’s future work is good or not. If we have MTV or the radio on, it gets shut off or changed the moment he appears. This person is the very definition of “low class,” and we don’t care if his music is good or bad, we’re simply not going to patronize it.

And he couldn’t even pick a good song or video to be a jerk about at those awards. That Beyonce song is crappy, and the video stinks. It’s hard to believe it could be nominated for awards, let alone win anything. Beyonce at her fattest, and looking like the Bride of Frankenstein.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/35 "2010-11-26T04:13:24Z")

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It made a great dance for the football team on “Glee,” though. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Gestalt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/90ced4/32.png) [@Gestalt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gestalt)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/36 "2010-11-26T04:18:36Z")

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> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> Kanye’s a jackass. I was there for his disastrous performance at Bonnaroo in 2008, so my feelings on the subject far pre-dated his VMA shenanigans.
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> That’s why I wish he’d stop making brilliant albums, so I could just forget about him. I was hopeful with _Graduation_, which was a big step down despite some good singles. But dammit, _MBDTF_ is great. I can’t decide how I’d rank it with _The College Dropout_ and _Late Registration_, but it’s definitely up there.

I was there for the Bonnaroo meltdown too, but I forgive him . . . because he is RIDICULOUSLY TALENTED AND AN AMAZING ARTIST AND PRODUCER.

I think it’s tough to hate on him if you’re into his music. It’s just that good, **kidneyfailure**. Yes, yes it is.

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/37 "2010-11-26T04:21:50Z")

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I haven’t actually heard any of Kanye’s new album, although I’ve only heard good things so far. But can we take a minute to talk about what an incredibly stupid fucking name it has? My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy? I think that was the name of a poem I wrote in my 8th grade English poetry unit.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/38 "2010-11-26T04:24:56Z")

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> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> Kanye’s a jackass. I was there for his disastrous performance at Bonnaroo in 2008, so my feelings on the subject far pre-dated his VMA shenanigans.

The Bonnaroo melt down is 100% forgiven in my book exclusively because of the hilarious [blog](http://stereogum.com/10659/kanye_dont_blame_me_blame_bonnaroo/bonnaroo/) he posted to rant about it.

[QUOTE=Kanye West]  
This is the most offended I’ve ever been… this is the maddest I ever will be. I’m typing so fucking hard I might break my fucking Mac book Air!!!  
[/QUOTE]

I can’t tell you how many times a week I scream to my friends that they are making me so mad that I’m going to type so hard I might break my Mac Book Air. I don’t even own an Mac Book Air, but I might buy one just to appropriately display my rage, Yeezy-style.

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**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/39 "2010-11-26T04:28:01Z")

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> [@Gestalt](#):
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> I think it’s tough to hate on him if you’re into his music. It’s just that good, **kidneyfailure**. Yes, yes it is.

I like some of his songs…doesn’t mean he’s not an infantile dumbass, though. And, yes, I realize that alot of celebs are, but I think he takes pop star egotism to an unheard of level. For some, egotism and attention-whoring can actually make your music better because it acts as an image enhancer, but it’s very easy to go too far. I think he does and that turns plenty of people off, #1 album or not. Go ahead and read the comments attached to the article I linked in the OP. I give him 10 more years at most before he disappears. Hell, five is probably more like it.

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**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/40 "2010-11-26T04:33:02Z")

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It might turn some people off, but the numbers say it doesn’t turn most people off.

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