# Kanye West is a complete fucking idiot **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 25, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927 "2010-11-25T23:21:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/61 "2010-11-26T17:40:28Z")
If we’re sharing Kanye links then I’ll link to my favourite song of his, [Jesus Walks](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYF7H_fpc-g), but he also takes care to make cohesive albums so there is a lot to be gained from sitting through a full album too. Not everyone is going to think he’s a musical genius of course, especially if they’re not overly familiar with his work. Each to their own and all that. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/62 "2010-11-26T17:43:06Z")
> [@multimediac17](#): > > If we’re sharing Kanye links then I’ll link to my favourite song of his, [Jesus Walks](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYF7H_fpc-g), but he also takes care to make cohesive albums so there is a lot to be gained from sitting through a full album too. > > Not everyone is going to think he’s a musical genius of course, especially if they’re not overly familiar with his work. Each to their own and all that. No. I cannot get behind Jesus Walks because I hate all songs with choirs of little children singing. ---
**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/63 "2010-11-26T17:49:21Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > No. I cannot get behind Jesus Walks because I hate all songs with choirs of little children singing. It’s not really a ‘Heal The World’-style singalong, though, so it’s not as cheesy as “choir of little children” might suggest. The Pit needs more choirs of little children singing anyway, what better to lighten the mood? Sing along everybody! _Heal the world, make it a better place For you and for me and…_ Okay sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/64 "2010-11-26T17:49:30Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > No. I cannot get behind Jesus Walks because I hate all songs with choirs of little children singing. Okay, I’m back in your fan club. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/65 "2010-11-26T17:55:48Z")
That _that_, Giraffe! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/66 "2010-11-26T18:56:07Z")
> [@rolandgunslinger](#): > > Oh please. You don’t think I know there’s been some awesome music produced since 79? I don’t know - are you a Boomer? 🙂 > [@newcomer](#): > > \ So, I bring to your attention name Keziah Jones (YouTube it all you want) and this for example [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=513Zz-\_U0nE](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=513Zz-_U0nE) > > \*\*\* “Rhythm is Love” is almost 20 years old… I like it! Nice and funky! Here’s some more rap/hip hop for people who don’t like rap/hip hop - [k-os - Man I Used To Be.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryAeRXArVHY) ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/67 "2010-11-26T18:58:55Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > That _that_, Giraffe! That that? I smell new meme! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/68 "2010-11-26T19:33:35Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > Just like the time I was about to fuck a guy and he literally put on “Let’s Get It On.” I was laughing so hard that I had to leave. It was so ridiculous. Why actually fucks to that song? It’s not 1973! Heh, I dated this guy for a while who’d always put on this Bob Marley Greatest Hits CD, so now whenever I hear “One Love” or “Jammin’” I kind of feel like I ought to be having overly-long boring sex with somebody. ---
**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/69 "2010-11-26T19:44:44Z")
I once had sex while the film _Wolf Creek_ played in the background. For that particular occasion Marvin Gaye or Bob Marley would have been a godsend. ---
**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/70 "2010-11-26T20:29:51Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I like it! Nice and funky! It’s blue-funk! Nigerian born, learned his stuff playing subways of Paris and London, got noticed once by a record producer and voila. Music influences Fela Kuti (I actually read once an interview he did with Fela) and Jimmy Hendricks. Following is his way of giving back by playing after so many years, again, for free in Paris subway [http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ns95\_keziah-jones-en-live-dans-le-metro\_music](http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ns95_keziah-jones-en-live-dans-le-metro_music) (I wondered how come subway is well lit, but it’s Paris after all). True, genuine, humble and talented beyond belief. Now that’s f\*\* brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/71 "2010-11-27T00:10:13Z")
> [@newcomer](#): > > \ Now that’s f\*\* brilliant. Fap? Fax? Fox? Fez? Fey? Fin? Fun? Fit? Fab? ---
**Author:** ![kidneyfailure](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9f8e36/32.png) [@kidneyfailure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidneyfailure)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/72 "2010-11-27T00:43:09Z")
This thread has taken an interesting turn… ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/73 "2010-11-27T01:03:19Z")
Well, you know what they say – there’s no accounting for taste. 😉 I’ve been a HUGE fan of the Red Hot Chili Peppers since I was about 12 years old, ever since. _Stadium Arcadium_ is awesome. I’m partial to [“Storm in a Teacup”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6pkumKWlM8) myself. [“Quixotic Elixer”](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK6m1bqax3k)'s a good one too. Too bad there’re no videos. (It’s a shame that John Frusciante is leaving, but he’s going to concentrate on his solo work, which is damned good too) ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/74 "2010-11-27T01:03:36Z")
Kanye and Taylor need to have an hour long variety show together. She’s a little bit country and he’s a little bit gangsta rap. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/75 "2010-11-27T01:23:21Z")
> [@zweisamkeit](#): > > “Most people stick to music that they listened to from ages 13-30, think just about everything ‘this generation’ listens to is awful and the musicians have no talent. Story at 11”. This argument falls apart when you consider how many people are in their 20s and still hate most of the the music of ‘this generation’. The music snob scene, the whole Pitchfork crowd, are all in their 20s. ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/76 "2010-11-27T01:36:09Z")
> [@Kyla](#): > > I haven’t actually heard any of Kanye’s new album, although I’ve only heard good things so far. But can we take a minute to talk about what an incredibly stupid fucking name it has? My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy? I think that was the name of a poem I wrote in my 8th grade English poetry unit. Always struck me out as Kanye being dangerously close to finally making his coming out. Would explain all that pent up rage in him, and that crazy quest for bravado. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/77 "2010-11-27T01:41:09Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > This argument falls apart when you consider how many people are in their 20s and still hate most of the the music of ‘this generation’. The music snob scene, the whole Pitchfork crowd, are all in their 20s. Incidentally, Pitchfork gave Kanye’s new album a 10.0, the first time they’ve given a perfect score to a new studio record since Wilco’s _Yankee Hotel Foxtrot_ in 2002. The “Pitchfork crowd” is generally not afraid to embrace something great just because it’s popular. They’re (we’re, I guess) just firm believers in [Sturgeon’s Law](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_Law). ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/78 "2010-11-27T01:49:49Z")
> [@multimediac17](#): > > My favourite album of the year. I might not agree with everything he says or does but _fucking hell_ his music is phenomenal. I think he’s the best new artist of the past decade. > > I don’t know why Kanye riles people up so much, unless they’re fans who are annoyed his antics are distracting from the music, which is a point I could understand. If that’s not the problem… why does he bring out such anger in people? It’s not as if he’s a political figure or something, he’s just a popstar. > > The Taylor Swift thing happened approximately four million years ago, I wish everyone (including Kanye) would move on. He riles people up because he’s a talented artist who has MADE IT (approximately 4 million times over according to fans), but he still has a poor attitude and a chip on his shoulder. It’s not the Taylor Swift thing, it’s what the Taylor Swift thing represents about him and his ingrained beliefs, personality, and behaviour. He has an ongoing arrogance and dismissive attitude about anyone who’s not “worthy” in his opinion. And from all of his past incidents, it’s apparent that those who “measure up” are black, and those who don’t, are white. So it’s a very racist ongoing arrogant and dismissive attitude, one that’s proven time and again with each new little Kanye temper tantrum. ---
**Author:** ![multimediac17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/839c29/32.png) [@multimediac17](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/multimediac17)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/79 "2010-11-27T01:55:22Z")
Pitchfork also gave favourable reviews to Rihanna and Nicki Minaj records this week, the website isn’t as completely indie-rock-focused as some think. I of course dislike music snobs and the we-don’t-like-anything-popular crowd is indeed a bit of a bore but I don’t think Pitchfork itself has much to do with that. I know lots of pop fans who look to the site for good (as in good quality, not just positive) reviews every now and then because they’re very well written. ---
**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/80 "2010-11-27T02:04:20Z")
> [@DiosaBellissima](#): > > The Bonnaroo melt down is 100% forgiven in my book exclusively because of the hilarious [blog](http://stereogum.com/10659/kanye_dont_blame_me_blame_bonnaroo/bonnaroo/) he posted to rant about it. That was beautiful. I was doing press there, and we couldn’t get the 'Roo people to say a word about it. The speculation was that it was probably mostly Kanye’s people’s fault. His original set on the second stage was scheduled at 7:30–well before dark–so our guess is that he was originally planning to do a stripped-down festival set and changed his mind about a week beforehand to do the full Glow in the Dark show (hence the 2:45AM slot). If the 'Roo people screwed up, it was because they couldn’t accommodate such a big change at the last minute; they usually run a surprisingly tight ship. I wish I could have seen the show under better circumstances. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927.md?page=5)