# Kanye West is a complete fucking idiot

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 25, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927 "2010-11-25T23:21:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![stolatt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@stolatt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolatt)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/141 "2015-02-10T16:51:47Z")

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I want a cage match between Kanye and Ted Nugent.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/142 "2015-02-10T17:05:12Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> His fame and success is way past all those guys on your list already. But basically you’re saying he won’t be this hugely well known and successful for the rest of his life. Really going out on a limb, aren’t you?

It’s kind of fun to see 5 years on how Kanye is still getting loads of respect from the music critics. Love him or hate him, he ain’t no flash-in-the pan. His 2013 album _Yeezus_ was voted #1 album of 2013 by Spin, Sterogum, Time, The A.V. Club, The Guardian, and #2 by NME, New York, Pitchfork, and The Washington Post. (And Pitchfork has it as the #8 album of the decade so far from 2010-214.) I suppose you can argue that all the critics are suffering from some sort of groupthink, but we have people whose lives are writing about music from both sides of the pond praising his work, as much of a jackass as he is and as hatable a character he can be. If you don’t like or “get” his work, that’s fine. But he’s not a hack, no matter how detestable a person you may find him.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/143 "2015-02-10T17:12:39Z")

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I still think the best moment of Obama’s presidency is when he called Kanye a jackass. That statement should have the force of law.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/078BGtKNL1o/hqdefault.jpg "president barack obama - kanye west - jackass (actual video) 2009.09.16") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=078BGtKNL1o)

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/144 "2015-02-10T17:14:06Z")

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[quote=“Darth\_Panda, post:143, topic:561927”]

I still think the best moment of Obama’s presidency is when he called Kanye a jackass. That statement should have the force of law.

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That definitely is up there in classic off-the-cuff Obama moments. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Askthepizzaguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/askthepizzaguy/32/9405_2.png) [@Askthepizzaguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Askthepizzaguy)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/145 "2015-02-10T17:17:23Z")

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Best moment was the [\*\*fictional version of his response to bin Laden being slain.  
\*\*](http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Z9oaamB_VGg/TxNROcfhBSI/AAAAAAAAAog/FqVmH8S3z9k/s1600/Obama-hes-dead-gif.gif)

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/146 "2015-02-10T17:26:50Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Yeah, but Beck’s also a Scientologist.

And Kanye guzzles Hennesy. We’ll call it a wash.

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/147 "2015-02-10T18:02:14Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> Kanye West doesn’t care about[del] black people [/del] anyone who ain’t Kanye West.
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> Also his music sucks.

> **[I love you more than Kanye loves Kanye](https://laughtard.com/i-love-you-more-than-kanye-loves-kanye/)**
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**Author:** ![doorhinge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a5b964/32.png) [@doorhinge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/doorhinge)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/148 "2015-02-10T18:59:29Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> Kanye West is a complete fucking idiot  
> Dude, you fucking stole somebody’s brief spot in the limelight, even the POTUS thinks you’re a dickweed, and you still have the balls (or the childishness) to call losing an award “a slap in the face?” Stay classy, buddy :rolleyes:
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> In other words: YOU FUCKING SUCK!

YES. Kanye West is a complete fucking idiot. He was a complete fucking idiot in 2010, and he’s a complete fucking idiot in 2015. At least he’s consistent.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/149 "2015-02-10T19:13:16Z")

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> [@TBG](#):
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> Kanye West doesn’t care about[del] black people [/del] anyone who ain’t Kanye West.
> 
> Also his music sucks.

To be fair, he was mad that Beyonce didn’t win, not himself.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/150 "2015-02-10T20:27:57Z")

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> [@ZipperJJ](#):
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> To be fair, he was mad that Beyonce didn’t win, not himself.

I’m pretty sure she could kick Beck’s ass herself if she really wanted to. Guy’s like a ventriloquist’s dummy, but not as intimidating.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 10, 2015, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/151 "2015-02-10T22:22:13Z")

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I don’t think the problem is his [stage bombing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Baid74lkk-8)\*, it’s that he sucks at it. If he were actually SMART, he’d start poking fun at himself for doing it, but he won’t.

(The next time he wins an award, I think Beyonce should do it to him. Now THAT would be funny)

\*Now THAT’S how you stage-bomb someone. RIP, MCA.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/152 "2015-02-11T03:11:04Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I’m pretty sure she could kick Beck’s ass herself if she really wanted to. Guy’s like a ventriloquist’s dummy, but not as intimidating.

I think this is what gets me the most about the whole thing: it’s not like Beyonce is powerless or stupid or incapable of standing up for herself. If she wanted to make some statement about missing out on these awards, she could do it quite easily, and she doesn’t need a dickweed like Kanye to ride in on his horse and defend her honor.

He might think he’s trying to stand up for her, but his assumption that she needs his help is actually more condescending and demeaning than missing out on the award.

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**Author:** ![Lobot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce7236/32.png) [@Lobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobot)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/153 "2015-02-11T04:00:22Z")

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> [@mhendo](#):
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> I think this is what gets me the most about the whole thing: it’s not like Beyonce is powerless or stupid or incapable of standing up for herself. If she wanted to make some statement about missing out on these awards, she could do it quite easily, and she doesn’t need a dickweed like Kanye to ride in on his horse and defend her honor.
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> He might think he’s trying to stand up for her, but his assumption that she needs his help is actually more condescending and demeaning than missing out on the award.

IMHO it’s got nothing to do with Beyonce and everything to do with the voters not reading West’s mind and respecting his opinions. IOW, it’s all about Kanye West, and the fact that his opinions are TRUTH.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/154 "2015-02-11T06:04:28Z")

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celebrities are complete idiots. the people who worship them, doubly so.

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/155 "2015-02-11T06:55:04Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I don’t think the problem is his [stage bombing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Baid74lkk-8)\*, it’s that he sucks at it. If he were actually SMART, he’d start poking fun at himself for doing it, but he won’t.

He did it on SNL, and I thought it was funny.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/156 "2015-02-11T07:48:02Z")

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Haven’t seen it – I’ll check it out.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/157 "2015-02-11T20:40:27Z")

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His attempt at stage bombing Beck at the Grammy’s was Kanye making fun of himself for what he did to Taylor Swift at the VMA’s several years ago (i.e. the genesis of this thread).

Like or don’t like West, but this repeat was actually pretty funny and self deprecating.

On the other hand, pretty cool that Glenn Beck won best album of the year.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/158 "2015-02-11T22:42:38Z")

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> [@Omar\_Little](#):
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> His attempt at stage bombing Beck at the Grammy’s was Kanye making fun of himself for what he did to Taylor Swift at the VMA’s several years ago (i.e. the genesis of this thread).
> 
> Like or don’t like West, but this repeat was actually pretty funny and self deprecating.
> 
> On the other hand, pretty cool that Glenn Beck won best album of the year.

Yeah, you’re wrong. Capital-W Wrong.

If he had made a self deprecating joke about it, and laughed about it later, you’d be right. But he didn’t, so you’re not.

Here’s what he said in a backstage interview after the awards:

> [@Kanye West](#):
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> “I just know that the Grammys, if they want real artists, to keep coming back, they need to stop playing with us. We ain’t gonna play with them no more,” he said, upset that Beck beat Beyonce in the category. **“And Beck needs to respect artistry and he should’ve given his award to Beyonce.”**
> 
> He went on to say he and other artists were “tired” of being disrespected by the Grammys.
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> “Because when you keep on diminishing art and not respecting the craft and smacking people in their face after they deliver monumental feats of music, you’re disrespectful to inspiration,” said West. “And we as musicians have to inspire people who go to work every day, and they listen to that Beyonce album and they feel like it takes them to another place.”

Emphasis mine. Does that sound like self-deprecating irony to you? If it does, get your meters recalibrated.

See if you can find the video of the interview. Even Kanye’s self-obsessed, ego-driven wife Kim Kardashian managed to break her stonefaced stare for long enough to look embarrassed.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/159 "2015-02-12T01:30:26Z")

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Give him a break he’s married to a Hobbit. I saw one awards show where he went on stage and interrupted Pope Francis.

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**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2015, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-a-complete-fucking-idiot/561927/160 "2015-02-12T15:08:23Z")

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Hey! Great SNL skit idea!

Kanye stage bombs Obama!

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