# Kanye West is going to get someone killed (or do the killing himself)

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 17, 2022, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644 "2022-02-17T02:05:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/101 "2022-03-14T16:55:11Z")

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> [@mordecaiB](#):
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> He should have been in therapy/on meds a decade+ ago. Hopefully when they talk about custody of the kids, they will have him examined by a psychiatrist. Maybe loss of his kids will convince him to get help, but I doubt it.

Just to be clear, I’m on Kim’s side in this argument; I think I’ve stated that.

But sometimes, all the help and meds in the world simply aren’t enough.

I’m in treatment for schizo-affective disorder. I’m bipolar manic/depressive, and as long as I take my medication, I’m usually okay. But I still experience periods of great anxiety, particularly when I’m trying to settle down and go to bed for the night.

My ex-girlfriend and (currently former) best friend has the exact same diagnosis that I do, but she also has added personal trauma in her life, and her medications don’t work quite so well. Whenever she and I get into an argument, she tends to cut off contact with me for months at a time. I have to be Mr. Perfect at all times, but I usually tolerate her behavior.

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**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/102 "2022-03-14T17:09:18Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> But sometimes, all the help and meds in the world simply aren’t enough.

Of course, but I’ve never seen anything to suggest that West has ever tried any treatment, talk or meds. If he’s actively been seeking help his whole life, I will withdraw my statements. There’s something wrong with this guy and it’s way beyond just being an asshole.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/103 "2022-03-14T17:18:46Z")

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Looks like he was on medication at one point in his life, and felt creatively stifled, and stopped taking his meds “for the benefit of his music”.

> **[‘6 Months Off Meds I Can Feel Me Again’](https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/12/kanye-west-and-dangers-quitting-psychiatric-medication/578647/)**
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> In tweets about abandoning psychiatric medication for his art, Kanye West promotes a dangerous myth about creativity.

And I can _almost_ understand that. Mania feels _really_ good sometimes, and some antipsychotic medications can really make you feel dull. As someone who writes and sings every day, I felt I couldn’t do either very well when I was on my first cocktail of psych meds.

They eventually found something that worked for me.

But he’s a danger to himself and others.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/104 "2022-03-14T17:25:57Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> And I can _almost_ understand that. Mania feels _really_ good sometimes, and some antipsychotic medications can really make you feel dull. As someone who writes and sings every day, I felt I couldn’t do either very well when I was on my first cocktail of psych meds.

My mother-in-law has bipolar disorder. She regularly goes off of her medications, because she feels like everything becomes duller (as you note), and she “misses the highs.”

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**Author:** ![Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/son_of_a_rich/32/5439_2.png) [@Son\_of\_a\_Rich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Son_of_a_Rich)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/105 "2022-03-14T23:06:34Z")

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All that plus money. He’s dangerous.

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**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/106 "2022-03-14T23:21:59Z")

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Pete Davidson has stated that next month he is going up into space.

Q: Is Ye going to go after him in a Klingon warship?

( Oh, Stop! You and I BOTH know that it would be more interesting than the Catwalk Vamping that is called ‘Star Trek Discovery’. )

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/107 "2022-03-14T23:38:07Z")

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Think Kanye’s seen this?

[![](https://i.imgur.com/8HJJQ4N.jpg) ](https://i.imgur.com/8HJJQ4N.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/108 "2022-03-14T23:56:34Z")

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Super Dickery!

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**Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/109 "2022-03-14T23:59:33Z")

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Kanye posted on instagram that he isn’t being allowed to see their daughter, and Kim called him out. “Please stop with this narrative, you were just here this morning picking up the kids for school."

> **[Kim Kardashian Comments on Kanye West's Instagram Post About North](https://www.etonline.com/kim-kardashian-comments-on-kanye-wests-instagram-post-about-daughter-north-please-stop-with-this)**
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> The mother of four filed for divorce from the rapper in February 2021.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/110 "2022-03-15T13:02:00Z")

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What we have here is an example of ‘don’t let the crazy stick his dick in you’.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/111 "2022-03-15T16:14:31Z")

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I try to ignore all things Khardashian, but I find this all rather amusing (except for the potential for violence, of course.) Kanye’s been an arrogant dick for so long that a little comeuppance might be good for him. Seeing him tear his hair out over his ex preferring the geeky Davidson to the ‘genius’ artist is hilarious. The bruising of his immense ego seems far more motivating than any hopes of reconciliation. Move on, Kanye. She’s just not that into you.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/112 "2022-03-15T16:29:50Z")

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Wonder what Kanye West thinks of [reports](https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/blue-origin-fly-snl-star-pete-davidson-space-next-week-2022-03-14/) that Pete Davidson is going to space on one of Jeff Bezos’ rockets.

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/113 "2022-03-15T17:07:25Z")

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The last line of the article is…….interesting.

_Fans will soon get a closer look at Pete and Kim’s budding romance, as well as her contentious relationship with Kanye, in Hulu’s The Kardasian’s series, premiering April 14th._

I’d hate to think that the three of them were playing this up for profit.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/114 "2022-03-15T17:10:00Z")

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No, no. These are the actions of people who crave privacy and security.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/115 "2022-03-15T17:25:41Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> _Fans will soon get a closer look at Pete and Kim’s budding romance, as well as her contentious relationship with Kanye, in Hulu’s The Kardasian’s series, premiering April 14th._
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> I’d hate to think that the three of them were playing this up for profit.

Oh, Jesus. If this whole fear of violence thing is overblown for television and social media, a plague on _all_ their houses.

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**Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/116 "2022-03-15T22:26:17Z")

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> [@kenobi\_65](#):
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> My mother-in-law has bipolar disorder. She regularly goes off of her medications, because she feels like everything becomes duller (as you note), and she “misses the highs.”

I’ve been on a light dose of lithium (lowest blood concentration level that is considered therapeutic) since about a year and a half ago, and there definitely is a dulling. Mania can certainly be pleasurable, so I understand wanting to get off the medication, though, for me, the minuses far outweigh the plusses at the moment, and my dulling is probably a lot less extreme than others on higher dosages. I know there are a lot of myths (as the article noted) surrounding mood disorders and creativity, but I do have to say, back when I wasn’t treated, my hypomanic episodes fueled great bursts of creativity that don’t seem to exist anymore, or are much harder to achieve. There’s this “brain fog” or “writer’s block” going on. As a person who sustains himself through his creativity, I understand why Kanye would want to go off the drugs, whereas I might suggest trying different pharmaceutical and/or cognitive therapy solutions, as @ekedolphin found.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/117 "2022-03-16T06:22:47Z")

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> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> I’d hate to think that the three of them were playing this up for profit.

I don’t think Pete is that way inclined, but the other two in the triangle? Mos def.

Has anyone else read the details of his post-Kim relationship? Not just scripted, but openly so. That Fox lady also sounds like a real peach…

> **[Julia Fox Said Kanye West Told Her To Spill Details About Their Relationship...](https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/leylamohammed/julia-fox-kanye-west-relationship-kim-kardashian-jealous)**
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> Julia’s latest comment that Ye wanted her to publicly glamorize their relationship comes months after reports claimed he was using her to make Kim jealous.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/118 "2022-03-16T07:36:36Z")

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> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> Wonder what Kanye West thinks of [reports](https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/blue-origin-fly-snl-star-pete-davidson-space-next-week-2022-03-14/) that Pete Davidson is going to space on one of Jeff Bezos’ rockets.

About the same thing as George Takei thought about William Shatner.

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**Post date:** [March 16, 2022, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/119 "2022-03-16T08:41:14Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> That Fox lady also sounds like a real peach…

“Oooooh! Foxy lady!”

– Jimi Hendrix

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**Post date:** [March 17, 2022, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-is-going-to-get-someone-killed-or-do-the-killing-himself/959644/120 "2022-03-17T04:36:10Z")

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Good perspective from Trevor Noah, making the point that some people still can’t seem to grasp: Kim wanting publicity doesn’t mean she wants to be harassed or deserves to be harassed.

I also like the quote “I get it, art can be therapy. But therapy can be therapy too.”

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/DEZdsisM8ZI/maxresdefault.jpg "The Kim-Kanye-Pete Controversy | The Daily Show") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEZdsisM8ZI)

In repose to this, Kanye posted a racist slur on Instagram and was suspended for 24 hours.

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