# Kanye West - what happened?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-what-happened/975895>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [December 2, 2022, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-what-happened/975895 "2022-12-02T00:56:14Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
**Page:** 10

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![MrLee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5f8ce5/32.png) [@MrLee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrLee)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2022, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-what-happened/975895/181 "2022-12-11T00:22:59Z")

</div>

I have no robust opinions, views or thoughts on Kanye; apart from _Gold Digger_ - which will stay with me forever:

Back in 2015, our (then) first, newborn daughter was having a troubled first few weeks of life - which meant that we, the parents, were having a rough time of it, too. The whole thing was incredibly fraught and emotional for all involved. We had a playlist of music going 24-7 in the background of our home to keep us as sane and awake as could be reasonably expected. This wasn’t a _curated_ playlist; mind you, it was an algorithm that had been allowed to roam free without intervention for hundreds of hours - it had gone all the way from Beethoven to drum 'n bass and back again many times.

One day, at about 3 in the morning, while my wife lay unconscious and partially upside-down on the sofa, and I was cradling our un-pacifiable raging infant child, an angelic Kanye-esque voice from the heavens descended - via the Bluetooth speaker - decreeing to all that _[he] ain’t sayin’ she a gold digger, but she ain’t messin’ with no broke…_ and so it was that for the first time in her life my daughter actually properly went to sleep. It was as if the whole time since birth she had been waiting for Kanye to tell her _“If you ain’t no chump, holla we want pre-nup - we want pre-nup, yeah!”_ as some kind of magical rite-of-passage.

This wasn’t a fluke or a one-off: we very quickly learnt that there was something about _Gold Digger_ which she found to be uniquely pacifying, and for the foreseeable we had it on our phones on speed-dial. Whenever she was kicking off, we’d play Gold Digger, and usually by the time we got to _“got a baby by Busta”_ she’d be back to sleep again.

(And yes, I tried the original Ray Charles version of the song - didn’t work)

This carried on for several months, such that my wife and I learnt not only the _words_ to Gold Digger (which we memorised in no time at all), but also improvised a kind of ‘rock the baby to sleep’ dance routine to accompany it. Bear in mind, also, that we were singing and dancing along to the uncensored version of the song - our infant daughter was unwittingly exposed to more racist and misogynistic language in her first few weeks of life than many people _are ever_.

Said daughter is now 7 years old, so I can’t be playing back the song to her now as if it were some kind of cute lullaby (she is old enough to understand and quote back some of the lyrics - dangerous). Maybe, one day, when she’s a proper grown-up, this will be a fun conversation to have over a single-malt…

So whatever else you might say about Kanye, I feel like I owe him something…

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2022, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-what-happened/975895/182 "2022-12-12T16:03:35Z")

</div>

Love this story. You never know what babies will love (or hate, for that matter – ours cried when he heard “Oh Canada” or the _Mad Men_ theme song.)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-what-happened/975895/183 "2023-03-27T17:14:47Z")

</div>

Kayne don’t need permission to decide what he believes.

> **[Kanye West says no longer anti-Semite after watching actor Jonah Hill](https://www.rawstory.com/kanye-says-no-longer-anti-semite-after-watching-actor-jonah-hill/)**
>
> Kanye West said he was renouncing anti-Semitism in a new Instagram post Saturday in which he wrote that watching actor Jonah Hill in the film "21 Jump Street" made him "like Jewish people again."The rapper -- known formally as Ye -- has shocked and...

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2023, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-what-happened/975895/184 "2023-03-27T18:45:44Z")

</div>

We were entertained by the emperor’s new clothes for a while, but then someone noticed he wasn’t wearing any.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-what-happened/975895/185 "2023-03-28T15:32:25Z")

</div>

Yeah, screw that guy.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-what-happened/975895/186 "2023-03-28T15:39:01Z")

</div>

““No one should take anger against one or two individuals and transform that into hatred towards millions of innocent people,” (Kanye) continued.”

But it makes sense to take admiration for one individual and use that to reverse condemnation of millions of people you said you hate?

Sure, why not.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2023, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-what-happened/975895/187 "2023-03-28T16:09:20Z")

</div>

> [@Jackmannii](#):
>
> But it makes sense to take admiration for one individual and use that to reverse condemnation of millions of people you said you hate?

He’s mentally ill. Everything makes sense to the mentally ill. Unfortunately he’s rich and famous, so instead of him ranting in a skilled nursing facility or a street corner somewhere we have to be subjected to his nonsense through the media.

Somewhere Jonah Hill is rolling his eyes so hard he has eyestrain.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2023, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-what-happened/975895/188 "2023-03-29T00:04:05Z")

</div>

As god as my witness, I had no idea Jonah Hill was Jewish.

So, I learned something from Kanye West. It’s totally useless information, but I did learn something.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2023, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-what-happened/975895/189 "2023-03-29T00:14:37Z")

</div>

> [@scabpicker](#):
>
> As god as my witness, I had no idea Jonah Hill was Jewish.

Neither did I, nor did I spend even one second considering his heritage. I, too, learned he is Jewish from this Kanye thing.

🤷‍♂️

![](https://media.tenor.com/qgMHn-HM96MAAAAC/jonah-hill-no.gif)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![mordecaiB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mordecaib/32/7725_2.png) [@mordecaiB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mordecaiB)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2023, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-what-happened/975895/190 "2023-03-30T07:48:25Z")

</div>

> [@Mahaloth](#):
>
> I, too, learned he is Jewish from this Kanye thing.

Heck with the Jewish thing, I’m Jewish and already know a bunch of Jews. The important thing is that his dad was tour accountant for Guns 'N Roses! Never saw a Jonah Hill movie, probably never will, but I want to meet his dad. He’s probably got all kinds of cool inside stories.

[Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-west-what-happened/975895.md?page=9)
