# Kanye West's VMA rant **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 14, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992 "2009-09-14T02:09:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/1 "2009-09-14T02:09:27Z")
Anyone see his outburst at the VMAs? What a no-class piece of shit. Is it widely known that he’s a total asshole or is this a surprise to some? ---
**Author:** ![torie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/2 "2009-09-14T02:15:03Z")
Widely known. His off the wall behavior was first noticed with the “George Bush doesn’t care about black people” debacle. The sad thing is that he was right. ‘Single Ladies’ was one of my favorite songs of the year and far superior to whatever snippet of garbage coming out of Taylor Swift. That doesn’t excuse him taking that moment from Taylor Swift or creating such an awkward situation for Beyonce. Poor Taylor Swift was so thrown off and looked so sad. I felt bad for her. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/3 "2009-09-14T02:22:18Z")
Oh hell, I am sure he was right…you could pick any Beyonce song at random and it would likely be better than anything Taylor Swift has done. But that is just beyond rude and the poor girl is like what? 19? Why not complain after the show? It’s not like he’d have a problem finding a reporter to listen to him. ---
**Author:** ![torie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/4 "2009-09-14T02:28:13Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Oh hell, I am sure he was right…you could pick any Beyonce song at random and it would likely be better than anything Taylor Swift has done. But that is just beyond rude and the poor girl is like what? 19? Why not complain after the show? It’s not like he’d have a problem finding a reporter to listen to him. I agree with you. That’s why it’s unfortunate that I have to agree with Kanye West on anything. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Nicest\_of\_the\_Damned](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/8baadc/32.png) [@Nicest\_of\_the\_Damned](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nicest_of_the_Damned)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/5 "2009-09-14T02:34:38Z")
Link to the video: [http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1621389/20090913/west\_kanye.jhtml](http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1621389/20090913/west_kanye.jhtml) ---
**Author:** ![lisacurl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/41988e/32.png) [@lisacurl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisacurl)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/6 "2009-09-14T02:35:16Z")
That stupid bastard needs to be medicated. He obviously has such an inflated sense of his own importance that it’s become a clinical disorder. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/7 "2009-09-14T03:00:29Z")
The hell of it is that honestly, he is really thoroughly mediocre as a musician. I’ve heard his songs which are so-called “pop genius” and I was underwhelmed. They sounded no different from all the other shit radio rap out there. ---
**Author:** ![myskepticsight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@myskepticsight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/myskepticsight)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/8 "2009-09-14T03:29:15Z")
There is a Pit thread too > **[Why does Kanye West continue to try and test the boundaries of assholish...](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=531889)** > > So in case anybody hasn’t heard, Kanye West made a douche of himself, again, this time at the 2009 VMA Ceremony. Long story short, (spoiler) Taylor Swift wins Best Female Artist Video or whatever, she’s standing on the stage to give her acceptance... ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/9 "2009-09-14T04:00:31Z")
Good to see he’s getting back in the news again. Thought he’d fallen off for a while. And “rant”. Please. Kanye can’t do VMA rants worth shit. He’s only good at 1-2 sentences at best. Now, ODB… there was a man could do a Award Show rant done RIGHT. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/10 "2009-09-14T04:37:59Z")
Low social savvy. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/11 "2009-09-14T04:38:03Z")
There’s another theory: > **[What if Kanye West is Retarded?](https://www.cracked.com/blog/what-if-kanye-west-is-retarded)** > > What if Kanye didn\\'t spout off a bunch of quirky, polarizing diatribes because he wanted to go down in history as a creative genius, but because he is, in fact, a complete fucking moron? ---
**Author:** ![Rainbowthief](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4bbf92/32.png) [@Rainbowthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rainbowthief)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/12 "2009-09-14T07:12:36Z")
I saw the clip on Yahoo! earlier. What a turd. I don’t like Taylor Swift’s music (or West’s or Beyonce’s either, for that matter), but publicly humiliating a teenage girl during what was supposed to be such a big moment for her was the height of douchebaggery. ---
**Author:** ![TWDuke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e495f1/32.png) [@TWDuke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TWDuke)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 8:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/13 "2009-09-14T08:18:44Z")
I just watched both videos. One was pretty standard synchronized rump-shaking, the other was stereotypical romantic teen angst. Calling either one the best of the decade seems like a stretch, but I’m old enough to remember when the most popular videos were like little art films - _crappy_ little art films, a lot of the time, but at least it looked like people were _trying_ to do something creative. Where was I? Oh, yeah. Kanye was a douche, no surprise. But he was a _stupendous_ douche. Like, if it was a hip hop movie and he was playing the rival to the hero and he did something like that, critics would say nobody’s that big of a douche. ---
**Author:** ![Polerius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d78d45/32.png) [@Polerius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polerius)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/14 "2009-09-14T08:46:01Z")
> [@TWDuke](#): > > I just watched both videos. One was pretty standard synchronized rump-shaking, the other was stereotypical romantic teen angst. Calling either one the best of the decade seems like a stretch Exactly. When comparing these two pieces of pop pablum, saying that one was superior while the other was “garbage” is ridiculous. ---
**Author:** ![Nightingale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecae2f/32.png) [@Nightingale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightingale)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/15 "2009-09-14T12:44:04Z")
I felt sorry for Taylor Swift for having her moment stolen; she looked utterly deflated after Kanye’s little ass-showing. And I felt sorry for Beyonce, who looked mortified. Kayne is a tool and if I were producing an awards show I think I would bar him from attending. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/16 "2009-09-14T14:46:55Z")
Someday, Kanye west is gonna pull something like that on a metal band and they are going to ruin his shit for him. I long for that to happen. Kanye West is a mediocre act, and while I can enjoy some of his music, overall I find the man repugnant. ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/17 "2009-09-14T14:53:38Z")
While I’ve no doubt he’s a natural born jackass, it also appears he’s a bit of a girly man as far as handling his Covahseeay. > **[why did kanye do it? - WWTDD - What Would Tyler Durden Do?](http://www.wwtdd.com/2009/09/why-did-kanye-do-it/)** > > There may never be any way to know for sure why Kanye West stormed the stage last night and interrupted Taylor Swift as she accepted Best Female Video at the MTV VMA’s. Oh wait never mind. It turns out there is a way, and that way would be to look at... ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/18 "2009-09-14T15:31:22Z")
> [@Huerta88](#): > > While I’ve no doubt he’s a natural born jackass, it also appears he’s a bit of a girly man as far as handling his Covahseeay. > > [http://www.wwtdd.com/2009/09/why-did-kanye-do-it/](http://www.wwtdd.com/2009/09/why-did-kanye-do-it/) Assuming that’s alcohol in the bottle, isn’t he in violation of some alcoholic beverage control laws in the state of New York? ---
**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/19 "2009-09-14T15:46:26Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > Assuming that’s alcohol in the bottle, isn’t he in violation of some alcoholic beverage control laws in the state of New York? New York City Administrative Code, section 10-125, consumption of alcohol in public: > [@](#): > > § 10-125 Consumption of alcohol on streets prohibited. > > a. Definitions. Whenever used in this section, the following terms are defined as follows: > > 1. Alcoholic beverage. Any liquid intended for human consumption containing more than one-half of one percent (.005) of alcohol by volume. > > 2. Public place. A place to which the public or a substantial group of persons has access including, but not limited to, any highway, street, road, sidewalk, parking area, shopping area, place of amusement, playground, park or beach located within the city except that the definition of a public place shall not include those premises duly licensed for the sale and consumption of alcoholic beverages on the premises or within their own private property. Such public place shall also include the interior of any stationary motor vehicle which is on any highway, street, road, parking area, shopping area, playground, park or beach located within the city. > > b. No person shall drink or consume an alcoholic beverage, or possess, with intent to drink or consume, an open container containing an alcoholic beverage in any public place except at a block party, feast or similar function for which a permit has been obtained. > > c. Possession of an open container containing an alcoholic beverage by any person shall create a rebuttable presumption that such person did intend to consume the contents thereof in violation of this section. > > d. Nothing in this section shall be deemed to prohibit the consumption of an alcoholic beverage in any duly licensed establishment whose certificate of occupancy extends upon a street. So if as it appears he was inside the venue, he might be okay. Albeit if the venue is one with a liquor license, there might be separate problems if he brought his own bottle in – not clear whether he got that bottle of cognac from the licensed Radio City bar, or elsewhere. ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992/20 "2009-09-14T15:50:52Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > There’s another theory: > > [What if Kanye West is Retarded? | Cracked.com](http://www.cracked.com/blog/what-if-kanye-west-is-retarded/) That shit is the funnest thing I ever read. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kanye-wests-vma-rant/509992.md?page=2)