# Karate Kid Sequel with Cobra Kai Guy?

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**Created:** [March 28, 2018, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353 "2018-03-28T14:42:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/1 "2018-03-28T14:42:52Z")

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I saw a trailer for this the other day, and it seemed kind of confusing. It looks like they’re doing a sequel based around the idea that the guy who lost the tournament in the original has a crappy life, then decides to turn around his life by reopening the Cobra Kai school. From the trailer it seems like Daniel is going to be the bad guy and that it was a serious movie, but from the reviews it sounds like they’re shooting for a comedy/action movie. To me this really smells like another one of those forgettable reboots, but I was wondering what other people think:

> **[YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?xCwwxNbtK6Y)**
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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/2 "2018-03-28T14:45:28Z")

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[According to Wiki.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobra_Kai)

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> _ **Cobra Kai** _ is an upcoming American comedy-drama web television series based on The Karate Kid film series created by Robert Mark Kamen. The television series takes place thirty-four years after the original film and follows the reopening of the Cobra Kai karate dojo by old rivals Johnny Lawrence and Daniel LaRusso. It was created by Jon Hurwitz, Hayden Schlossberg, and Josh Heald and stars William Zabka and Ralph Macchio, reprising their roles from the films. It is set to premiere on YouTube Red on May 2, 2018.
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> _Premise_  
> Cobra Kai takes place thirty-four years after the original film and follows a "down-and-out Johnny Lawrence, who seeks redemption by reopening the infamous Cobra Kai karate dojo, reigniting his rivalry with a now successful Daniel LaRusso, who has been struggling to maintain balance in his life without the guidance of his mentor, Mr. Miyagi. The show is about two men addressing past demons and present frustrations the only way they know how: through karate.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/3 "2018-03-28T15:31:23Z")

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“Straight-to-YouTube” has got to be a new low in filmmaking.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/4 "2018-03-28T15:55:22Z")

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To be fair, that’s not your normal YouTube. It’s a subscription service like Hulu.

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**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/5 "2018-03-28T16:01:04Z")

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That does not look like Ralph Macchio to me.

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**Author:** ![Pantastic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3bc359/32.png) [@Pantastic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pantastic)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/6 "2018-03-28T16:01:10Z")

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Yeah, Youtube Red is their paid subscription service, so it’s really about the same as ‘straight to Netflix’ or ‘straight to Hulu’.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/7 "2018-03-28T16:57:39Z")

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The two trailers I’ve seen for it actually look pretty good, and I wouldn’t mind watching it…

… but I’m not going to pay for yet \*another \*service.

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**Author:** ![muldoonthief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muldoonthief/32/3188_2.png) [@muldoonthief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muldoonthief)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/8 "2018-03-28T17:05:37Z")

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Have Daniel-san and Johnny stayed in shape, or is it going to be slo-mo cuts from stuntmen like the 90’s version of “Kung Fu” ?

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**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/9 "2018-03-28T17:52:38Z")

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On YouTube Red, not to be confused with RedTube.  
The trailers look intriguing and I do like the idea of flipping the protagonist and antagonist roles from the first movie while adding more layers than “Good guy with karate beats bad guy with karate.” Johnny wasn’t really a bad guy, he was a jerk at times during the movie but Daniel was a little prick too.

But like **Lightnin’** said, I’m not ready to pay for another streaming service.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/10 "2018-03-28T18:18:59Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> That does not look like Ralph Macchio to me.

Why, does he look older than fifteen?

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**Author:** ![DooWahDiddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@DooWahDiddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DooWahDiddy)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/11 "2018-03-28T18:33:06Z")

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> [@Ike\_Witt](#):
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> That does not look like Ralph Macchio to me.

Are you kidding? It’s been a running joke for the last 30 years that the guy never ages. He looks great for his age.

Not sure how I feel about the trailer yet; I couldn’t help but think it looked like a parody, albeit a badass one. Gonna have to watch it a few more times to decide. 😃

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/12 "2018-03-28T18:53:04Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> The two trailers I’ve seen for it actually look pretty good, and I wouldn’t mind watching it…
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> … but I’m not going to pay for yet \*another \*service.

That’s the rub. Too many subscription services. I have Prime and Netflix. Do I need more?

> [@DooWahDiddy](#):
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> Are you kidding? It’s been a running joke for the last 30 years that the guy never ages. He looks great for his age.
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> Not sure how I feel about the trailer yet; I couldn’t help but think it looked like a parody, albeit a badass one. Gonna have to watch it a few more times to decide. 😃

Ralph Macchio looks great. And so does Academy Award Nominee Billy Zabka. They both have the reputations of being a couple of the nicest guys to work with. I’m glad to see them getting work.

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**Author:** ![xizor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xizor/32/102_2.png) [@xizor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xizor)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/13 "2018-03-28T20:22:02Z")

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I wonder if the idea for this project came from someone who watched the [sweep the leg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olQ3vaiv47I) music video, which also shows the cast from the original movie, but all grown up

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/14 "2018-03-28T22:09:14Z")

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> [@xizor](#):
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> I wonder if the idea for this project came from someone who watched

If you’d continued with “How I Met Your Mother” I’d say yes. Barney had a thing where he thought Johnny Lawrence was the hero of the film, The Karate Kid. Daniel was the violent bully. They even got the original actor to do a cameo appearance.

This isn’t quite that extreme. It’s just painting them both as flawed and dealing with life and their own demons. It still sounds like they repurposed some of the Johhny isn’t a bad guy argument.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/15 "2018-03-29T00:22:20Z")

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> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#):
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> Johnny wasn’t really a bad guy, he was a jerk at times during the movie but Daniel was a little prick too.

Sure, Daniel wasn’t perfect. But there’s no way Johnny was a violent sociopathic bully, at least as presented in the movie. Doesn’t mean he can’t be an interesting and sympathetic character as a grownup, but let’s not go overboard with the moral relativism.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/16 "2018-03-29T02:46:59Z")

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Doesn’t look half bad. They should call it _Johnny Be Good_.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/17 "2018-03-29T04:03:34Z")

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> [@DinoR](#):
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> If you’d continued with “How I Met Your Mother” I’d say yes. Barney had a thing where he thought Johnny Lawrence was the hero of the film, The Karate Kid. Daniel was the violent bully. They even got the original actor to do a cameo appearance.
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> This isn’t quite that extreme. It’s just painting them both as flawed and dealing with life and their own demons. It still sounds like they repurposed some of the Johhny isn’t a bad guy argument.

Macchio was in one episode, Zabka was in a couple of them.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/18 "2018-03-29T04:16:25Z")

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I thought the trailer was hilarious.

“Isn’t this the guy who’s ass you kicked?”

“Well technically, I kicked him in the face”.

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**Author:** ![Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/b487fb/32.png) [@Walken\_After\_Midnight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walken_After_Midnight)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/19 "2018-03-29T04:40:24Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Why, does he look older than fifteen?

It always seemed a bit unrealistic to me that, in the original movie, there was this young woman actress, Elisabeth Shue, playing the part of the love interest for a kid in his early to mid-teens, until I found out that the actor Ralph Macchio was actually a couple of years older than her. In the _Cobra Kai_ trailer he looks as if he’s in his 30s, but I checked and he’s now actually 56.

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**Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-kid-sequel-with-cobra-kai-guy/811353/20 "2018-03-29T05:32:37Z")

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“You’re going to bring Cobra Kai back to the Valley? Not on my watch!”

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