# Karate student stomps on man's head, his teacher posts the video on Youtube 25 years later

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 22, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260 "2009-08-22T00:17:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/181 "2009-08-24T23:38:00Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> As for Boxing, in Boxing you hit people in the head hard regularly, you don’t in most martial arts. For some reason you’ve fixated on the idea that kicking someone’s head is more brutal than punching it. I guarantee you my training including head stomps is a lot less brutal than training for boxing.

If you don’t believe that, go ask an ex-boxer. Like Mohammed Ali, for example, who is now a poster boy for dementia pugilis.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/182 "2009-08-24T23:39:04Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Lol. I love how even the news is calling him mentally handicapped. Is there any evidence of that at all? Does anyone actually believe that? I’d love to be able to go around saying that everyone who thinks Jesus talks to them is mentally handicapped but I’ve been flamed for far less around here.

I’m sure he is now if he wasn’t before.😉

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 24, 2009, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/183 "2009-08-24T23:53:40Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Lol. I love how even the news is calling him mentally handicapped. Is there any evidence of that at all? Does anyone actually believe that? I’d love to be able to go around saying that everyone who thinks Jesus talks to them is mentally handicapped but I’ve been flamed for far less around here.

Jesus traditionally does not teach people Kung Fu.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/184 "2009-08-25T00:40:48Z")

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[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fiYhoJl78o)

He doesn’t? I mean, he’s more famous for hunting vampires, sure.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/185 "2009-08-25T00:47:18Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Jesus traditionally does not teach people Kung Fu.

He traditionally doesn’t teach presidents to start wars of aggression, either. What’s your point?

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/186 "2009-08-25T00:49:00Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> He traditionally doesn’t teach presidents to start wars of aggression, either. What’s your point?

THAT is your COUNTER example?

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/187 "2009-08-25T01:05:02Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Jesus traditionally does not teach people Kung Fu.

THAT is your COUNTER example?

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/188 "2009-08-25T01:08:04Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> THAT is your COUNTER example?

It’s pretty clear that the guy ain’t right just from his behavior. From Jesus teaching him Kung Fu on to his stilted speech patterns the way he sways back and forth while he stands there, to the way he moves when doing his martial arts katas.

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**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/189 "2009-08-25T01:22:03Z")

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Jesus himself said he brings not kung fu, but a sword. The guy should have wandered into a kendo dojo.

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**Author:** ![Henrichek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5daacb/32.png) [@Henrichek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henrichek)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/190 "2009-08-25T01:33:51Z")

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Ehm…

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fiYhoJl78o)

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/S3OQCAzwe4I/hqdefault.jpg "Kung-Fu Jesus") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3OQCAzwe4I)

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/191 "2009-08-25T01:56:51Z")

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> [@Henrichek](#):
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> Ehm..  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_fiYhoJl78o](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fiYhoJl78o)  
> [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3OQCAzwe4I](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3OQCAzwe4I)

LOL the following preview has been approved for you by the motion sickness administration of Zimbabwe.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/192 "2009-08-25T01:59:29Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> As for Boxing, in Boxing you hit people in the head hard regularly, you don’t in most martial arts. For some reason you’ve fixated on the idea that kicking someone’s head is more brutal than punching it. I guarantee you my training including head stomps is a lot less brutal than training for boxing.

> [@Clothahump](#):
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> If you don’t believe that, go ask an ex-boxer. Like Mohammed Ali, for example, who is now a poster boy for dementia pugilis.

Unless I’m misunderstanding, I disagree with this. Mohammed Ali got hit repeatedly _for many, many years_. In talking about a one shot event the head stomp will do the most damage. Even in situations where the head is allowed to move when hit (as in when standing) kicks can be more devastating than punching as a cursory viewing of MMA’s will attest.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/193 "2009-08-25T02:00:47Z")

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> [@PlainJain](#):
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> Unless I’m misunderstanding, I disagree with this. Mohammed Ali got hit repeatedly _for many, many years_. In talking about a one shot event the head stomp will do the most damage. Even in situations where the head is allowed to move when hit (as in when standing) kicks can be more devastating than punching as a cursory viewing of MMA’s will attest.

That’s true, but I was arguing against **Billfish** who contended that I shouldn’t be training how to kick someone in the head because it was too dangerous. That’s fully nonsense.

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**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\
**Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/194 "2009-08-25T02:40:02Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> That’s true, but I was arguing against **Billfish** who contended that I shouldn’t be training how to kick someone in the head because it was too dangerous. That’s fully nonsense.

Then I was misunderstanding. I agree, carry on.

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**Author:** ![prodigynius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/85e7bf/32.png) [@prodigynius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/prodigynius)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/195 "2009-08-27T21:42:33Z")

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Here is an article about the incident  
[http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2101931/jesus\_taught\_me\_video\_on\_youtube\_apparently.html?cat=9](http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2101931/jesus_taught_me_video_on_youtube_apparently.html?cat=9)

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**Author:** ![Henrichek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5daacb/32.png) [@Henrichek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henrichek)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/196 "2009-08-27T22:17:30Z")

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Has anything new come out of this story yet?

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2009, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/197 "2009-08-27T22:34:48Z")

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Thank god I am not ashamed of being a bit dull, because I know posters have tried to answer this question, but I am _compelled_ to ask this again;

Can any martial arts expert or student tell me if the man getting stomped was actually doing real martial arts, or was he just making moves up? Thanks, guys.

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/198 "2009-08-28T02:21:16Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Can any martial arts expert or student tell me if the man getting stomped was actually doing real martial arts, or was he just making moves up? Thanks, guys.

Heh. That’s the thing about some traditional martial arts. It can be hard to tell. It looked to me like he was mimicking things he saw in movies, but he could’ve been doing katas from some real martial art. But he said he didn’t want to fight, so there’s no reason to hold him to some standard of “real” martial arts. The blackbelt was doing the very real martial art known as Hav Smal Dik.

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**Author:** ![emcee2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7bcc69/32.png) [@emcee2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/emcee2k)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/199 "2009-08-28T02:35:12Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> The blackbelt was doing the very real martial art known as Hav Smal Dik.

For a split second I was about to look that up on Wikipedia.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/200 "2009-08-28T03:01:26Z")

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> [@emcee2k](#):
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> For a split second I was about to look that up on Wikipedia.

Shit. Me too. Just a split second, though, I swear.

Thanks, Cisco for trying to answer my question for me. It made me watch the video again, and I swear to god, to echo others that have said similar; I thought I was way too jaded by the internet to be made so uncomfortable by a video like that.

Uncomfortable. There are parts that made me laugh. Those parts gave me the strangest/sickest feeling in my gut that I ever had watching an internet video.

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