# Karate student stomps on man's head, his teacher posts the video on Youtube 25 years later **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 22, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260 "2009-08-22T00:17:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/61 "2009-08-22T16:24:52Z")
Googled again. Found this on page 37: > [@](#): > > I have invited him to come and share his perspective. Here are some snippets of what he said. In no particular order. This might be a troll, so… > > “no my dad and blythe do not remain in contact. Even now they still have not spoken.” > “Yes he is my father and he is not currently facing charges.” (im guessing speaking of the dojo incident, certainly not the recent stuff) > “I didnt say he was in control of the situation, i said he tried to control the situation. Look at the video and count how many times the Kung fu guy started to walk away then decided to go back. This whole thing has been blown way out of proportion. Yall are on a witch hunt and the only way to prove he is not a witch is to burn him. If he lives he’s a witch and yall can kill him. If he dies then well i guess he wasnt really a witch at all. Too bad the damage is done right? but at least he’s not a witch.” There’s a link to the post, but you have to be registered to see/use links and I don’t want to register. EDIT: **Coldfire** , eh? Who knew Clogboy was in the U.S. as a child? 😛 ( **Coldie** , if you read this, I keed! I keed! 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/62 "2009-08-22T16:27:07Z")
> [@FlyingRamenMonster](#): > > From what I remember: He seemed to have managed to get a few good hits in, but overall his fighting was what you might expect from someone claiming to have been trained by Jesus. I… can’t really bring myself to watch it again, so I can’t say any more. Yeah, the “I was trained by Jesus.”, the stilted way he talked, the way he rocked back and forth, the way his style was all fluttery and expansive with no sense of guard at all told me that the guy was not mentally right. I mean there are A LOT of clues that the guy isn’t mentally right. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/63 "2009-08-22T16:29:01Z")
> [@Johnny\_L.A](#): > > Googled again. Found this on page 37: > > There’s a link to the post, but you have to be registered to see/use links and I don’t want to register. > > EDIT: **Coldfire** , eh? Who knew Clogboy was in the U.S. as a child? 😛 ( **Coldie** , if you read this, I keed! I keed! 😃 ) Wow, what a dipshit. The easiest way to control that situation would be to step back rather than stomping on his head when he is curled up in a ball in teh corner. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/64 "2009-08-22T16:52:54Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > This thread does nothing to dispel my opinion that martial arts are for dorks, psychos and Asian kids. I’m not an Asian kid! Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/65 "2009-08-22T17:11:25Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I’m not an Asian kid! > > Regards, > Shodan I’ve noticed a trend that doing anything that resembles a hobby is considered dorky by someone. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/66 "2009-08-22T17:21:40Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I’ve noticed a trend that doing anything that resembles a hobby is considered dorky by someone. Especially those performed in a weird outfit in a public place while uttering loud screams. Like masturbation, for instance. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/67 "2009-08-22T17:22:55Z")
Yes, even though everyone does it. ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/68 "2009-08-22T18:14:27Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > I’ve noticed a trend that doing anything that resembles a hobby is considered dorky by someone. You’ve noticed, eh? Spend a lot of time noticing things, nerd? ---
**Author:** ![Henrichek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5daacb/32.png) [@Henrichek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henrichek)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/69 "2009-08-22T18:18:02Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Yes, even though everyone does it. In weird outfits in public places? Please inform me where I can find such a place (women’s section). ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/70 "2009-08-22T18:26:19Z")
> [@wierdaaron](#): > > You’ve noticed, eh? Spend a lot of time noticing things, nerd? Message board snark is for dorks! ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2009, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/71 "2009-08-22T22:52:45Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > I have been in similar situations. When I was teaching a class many years back, a “kung-fu” guy came in and was watching. (This was in a college gym.) He was in uniform, and I noticed him watching and asked if he would like to join the class, which was pretty informal - just me and some of my brown belts sparring. He said No, because it wouldn’t do any good - judo didn’t work against his style because his ch’i caused him to stick to the floor and made him unthrowable. > > Well. > > As is common amongst judo students, all my brown belts’ eyes lit up like sharks on Christmas morning who find a hemophiliac under the tree, and there was a general clamor of “Ooh! Ooh! Can I play with the new toy if I promise not to break it?” But, rank hath its privileges, and I got first shot. I didn’t kill him, I didn’t even hurt him very much, but after he got up he said he hadn’t been ready. So we gave him a chance to get ready, and meditate or whatever, and my senior brown belt got the next crack at Bruce Lee v2.0. Also not a ringing triumph for the power of the ch’i, and the brown belt was somewhat less concerned for the well-being of the gentleman in question. You’re lucky that guy didn’t make you [kiss his Converse](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8udQdtwQBBU&NR=1). You [never know who is going to come into your dojo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2wjS4iI5wg&feature=related). ---
**Author:** ![DfrntBreign](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@DfrntBreign](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DfrntBreign)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/72 "2009-08-23T04:24:37Z")
> [@Henrichek](#): > > In weird outfits in public places? Please inform me where I can find such a place (women’s section). Just about any strip club all over the world. (for some definitions of “weird outfits”) ---
**Author:** ![Stringer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Stringer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringer)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/73 "2009-08-23T04:36:14Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > As is common amongst judo students, all my brown belts’ eyes lit up like sharks on Christmas morning who find a hemophiliac under the tree, and there was a general clamor of “Ooh! Ooh! Can I play with the new toy if I promise not to break it?” But, rank hath its privileges, and I got first shot. I didn’t kill him, I didn’t even hurt him very much, but after he got up he said he hadn’t been ready. So we gave him a chance to get ready, and meditate or whatever, and my senior brown belt got the next crack at Bruce Lee v2.0. Also not a ringing triumph for the power of the ch’i, and the brown belt was somewhat less concerned for the well-being of the gentleman in question. He got up again, albeit a bit more slowly, and left, after telling us that we would stand no chance against his master, who really could stick to the floor/bend steel in his bare hands/break bricks with his eyebrow/whatever. We invited his master to come and show us, but we never saw him again. Wow you’re a hardass. Regards, Douchebag ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/74 "2009-08-23T04:39:04Z")
Boys, I like you all but I was looking for a legal denouement to this case. Does anybody have any REAL info? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/75 "2009-08-23T04:42:51Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > The difference is that now there is a huge community of martial artists who are all connected by the internet, and when something like this happens, it can be assured that those who do take the art seriously and have moral integrity will do the right thing and tell everybody about it. Pfft. One local news anchor’s breathless “just wait until you see this shocking footage” = 1,000,000 responsible martial artists’ “no, seriously, most of us aren’t like that” ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/76 "2009-08-23T04:57:41Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Boys, I like you all but I was looking for a legal denouement to this case. Does anybody have any REAL info? Not really - In paging backwards through the thread there appears to be one person posting claiming to be present at the scene of the fight and also claiming the stompee survived and was pulled out of the dumpster by the police the next day. The police have the tape and the ID of the instructor. It’s up to them at this point. If it is determined he did survive I’m not sure what the authorities can do given the time that has passed. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/77 "2009-08-23T04:58:39Z")
> [@Henrichek](#): > > Oh. Astute observation ;). > > I read the text just now, and it says that the police pulled him out of the dumpster behind the dojo. It seems strange that nothing would follow after that. Well the victim is described as kind of a crazy person. He may have been homeless. It’s not that strange that the cops would basically ignore such a person. They probably ran him down and dumped him at a hospital. ---
**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/78 "2009-08-23T10:35:18Z")
I really wish I wouldn’t have watched that video. I mean, I’ve seen a guy die from a car crash that happened right in front of me, and I’m not as upset as what I witnessed in that video. It was hours ago that I saw it, and it still depresses the hell out of me when I think about it. So needlessly brutal and potentially fatal. And not a single person did anything to help. I hope something can be done legally to at least the instructor and the asshole who beat and possibly killed the guy. It would be nice to think of them rotting in prison for the rest of their lives. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 12:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/79 "2009-08-23T12:02:02Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > You’re lucky that guy didn’t make you [kiss his Converse](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8udQdtwQBBU&NR=1). You [never know who is going to come into your dojo](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2wjS4iI5wg&feature=related). WTH is that movie? I’ve never seen such a train wreck. I"m guessing mid-80’s. ---
**Author:** ![Henrichek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/5daacb/32.png) [@Henrichek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Henrichek)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2009, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260/80 "2009-08-23T12:06:07Z")
> [@Zebra](#): > > Well the victim is described as kind of a crazy person. He may have been homeless. > > It’s not that strange that the cops would basically ignore such a person. They probably ran him down and dumped him at a hospital. So it’s not strange that police ignore investigating a beaten up and possibly severely injured man, just because he is poor? That sounds like a very corrupt police force. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karate-student-stomps-on-mans-head-his-teacher-posts-the-video-on-youtube-25-years-later/507260.md?page=5)