# Karen Hughs is a fucking idiot

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 3, 2005, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611 "2005-10-03T17:31:37Z")\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/1 "2005-10-03T17:31:37Z")

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[Guardian](http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,1581335,00.html)

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> “Many people around the world do not understand the important role that faith plays in Americans’ lives,” she said. When an Egyptian opposition leader inquired why Mr Bush mentions God in his speeches, Hughes asked him whether he was aware that “previous American presidents have also cited God, and that our constitution cites ‘one nation under God’.”
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> “Well, never mind,” he said.

The whole article is revealing of this woman’s cluelessness and stupidity (and tiresome religiosity) but that quoted example is frightening coming ftom someone who was once a close advisor of the President. These people really are complete fucking morons.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/2 "2005-10-03T17:32:53Z")

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Damn it. Could I please get a mod to fix my quote tags? I’d be much obliged.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/3 "2005-10-03T17:50:45Z")

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**Dio** , stop posting this anti-Bush crap. As it says in the Bill of Rights, “Yer either fer us or agin us.”

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/4 "2005-10-03T17:55:23Z")

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Pictures of Ms. Hughes little junket have been hard to come by.  
[Here are a few.](http://bagnewsnotes.typepad.com/bagnews/2005/09/flat_head_taste.html)

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/5 "2005-10-03T18:00:47Z")

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Thanks for the assist, **Giraffe**.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/6 "2005-10-03T18:01:42Z")

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[Here’s](http://nationalcatholicreporter.org/fwis/pc093005.htm) a commentary on Karen by Joan Chittister, who strikes me as a usually thoughtful, intelligent student of contemporary affairs.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/7 "2005-10-03T18:11:44Z")

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> [@lieu](#):
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> [Here’s](http://nationalcatholicreporter.org/fwis/pc093005.htm) a commentary on Karen by Joan Chittister, who strikes me as a usually thoughtful, intelligent student of contemporary affairs.

I like this:

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> Turkish women told her, “You cannot bring in war for the sake of peace. The United States cannot interfere in the democracy problem and solve it through war.” And Saudi women – who she promised would soon be able to drive cars – told her that they were happy, thank you, and that they didn’t need America to make their lives complete and that, frankly, they would be a lot happier if she just went home. It was a hard message to misinterpret.

Yeah, well. What do those dusky heathens know about happiness anyway; only those who walk hand-in-hand with the Lord are able to judge happiness.

> [@Ecclesiastes 2:1](#):
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> I thought in my heart, “Come now, I will test you with pleasure to find out what is good.” But that also proved to be meaningless.

See? Oh wait.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/8 "2005-10-03T18:26:06Z")

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Hee!

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/9 "2005-10-03T18:50:33Z")

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> [@UncleBeer](#):
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> Yeah, well. What do those dusky heathens know about happiness anyway; only those who walk hand-in-hand with the Lord are able to judge happiness.

Where did you find any mention of skin color or, for that matter, any particular religion there?

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/10 "2005-10-03T19:21:42Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Where did you find any mention of skin color or, for that matter, any particular religion there?

Whoosh.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/11 "2005-10-03T19:28:50Z")

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The guy says so many ridiculous things that it’s hard to tell.

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**Author:** ![Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4da419/32.png) [@Gala\_Matrix\_Fire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gala_Matrix_Fire)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/12 "2005-10-03T22:34:02Z")

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It embarrasses me that Hughes insists on introducing herself as a “mom.” You know, ma’am, we didn’t come here to listen to a mom. We’re all moms\*. We came here to talk to a representative of the President of the United States. Act like a professional, for God’s sake.

\*Not me, I’m not.

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**Author:** ![Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@Long\_Time\_First\_Time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Long_Time_First_Time)\
**Post date:** [October 3, 2005, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/13 "2005-10-03T23:09:39Z")

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> [@bluethree](#):
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> It embarrasses me that Hughes insists on introducing herself as a “mom.” You know, ma’am, we didn’t come here to listen to a mom. We’re all moms\*. We came here to talk to a representative of the President of the United States. Act like a professional, for God’s sake.
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> \*Not me, I’m not.

That’s exactly how this administration seems to value everything, though. People are liked/trusted because they are “good” people and disliked/not trusted because they are “evil doers.” That goodness is determined by somebody’s gut, and to most outsiders it looks to equate with blind loyalty in most instances.  
I have no doubt that in her eyes, being a mom is the strongest bona fide possible. It suggests one has an intuitive grasp of what’s good or bad without things getting muddied up by a bunch of book learnin.

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/14 "2005-10-04T01:32:04Z")

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> [@Long Time First Time](#):
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> It suggests one has an intuitive grasp of what’s good or bad without things getting muddied up by a bunch of book learnin.

Whoever thinks that obviously has not spent much time in a Wal Mart.

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**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/15 "2005-10-04T01:55:52Z")

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“our constitution cites ‘one nation under God’.”

Uh, no it doesn’t. Those godless commie bastard founding fathers managed to write the entire frickin’ document without once referring to God or even “our Creator”. No wonder we have been cursed by having George W. Bush as president.

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/16 "2005-10-04T02:09:01Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> Uh, no it doesn’t.

No shit, Sherlock. Kinda the point of the OP, innit?

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/17 "2005-10-04T02:22:14Z")

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> [@Q.E.D.](#):
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> No shit, Sherlock. Kinda the point of the OP, innit?

Yea.

But I’m pretty sure every state constitution mentions God (or “Creator,” or whatever).

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**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/18 "2005-10-04T02:27:14Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> But I’m pretty sure every state constitution mentions God (or “Creator,” or whatever).

Yes, and I wish they wouldn’t. But then, we’re not talking about state constitutions, now, are we?

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**Author:** ![CynicalGabe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3e96dc/32.png) [@CynicalGabe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CynicalGabe)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/19 "2005-10-04T05:04:53Z")

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> [@Crafter\_Man](#):
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> Yea.
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> But I’m pretty sure every state constitution mentions God (or “Creator,” or whatever).

Don’t worry, we’ll fix it eventually.

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**Author:** ![UncleBeer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/977dab/32.png) [@UncleBeer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBeer)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2005, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karen-hughs-is-a-fucking-idiot/324611/20 "2005-10-04T12:43:59Z")

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> [@Frostillicus](#):
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> Those godless commie bastard founding fathers managed to write the entire frickin’ document without once referring to God or even “our Creator”. No wonder we have been cursed by having George W. Bush as president.

_Commie?_

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