# Karl Rove says McCain electoral support is weakening **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [June 15, 2008, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karl-rove-says-mccain-electoral-support-is-weakening/453003 "2008-06-15T14:07:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karl-rove-says-mccain-electoral-support-is-weakening/453003/41 "2008-06-17T00:44:44Z")
[QUOTE=BrainGlutton] See [here](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Dean#50-state_strategy) and [here,](http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/The_vindication_of_Howard_Deans_crazy_1109.html) [/QUOTE] Thank you. Laudable effort by Dr. Dean indeed. Now if there had only been a way for me type in some keywords and search for that information. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karl-rove-says-mccain-electoral-support-is-weakening/453003/42 "2008-06-17T00:51:45Z")
Why, there is! Simply e-mail your question to me, along with an appropriate emolument via Paypal, and I will be happy to do your research! You could probably get similar service from **BrainGlutton** , but I would be remiss if I didn’t advise you that there are rumors afloat that he may be a lawyer. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2008, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karl-rove-says-mccain-electoral-support-is-weakening/453003/43 "2008-06-17T02:20:44Z")
[QUOTE=TV time] It’s Karl Rove. His lips are moving = he’s lying. [/QUOTE] No, he’s smarter than that. Sometimes he’s telling the truth. Sometimes he’s telling most of the truth except for one bit. (He does that a lot.) Sometimes, he’s telling the truth he wants someone to hear. (Hillary listening to him.) Don’t listen. If you listen, go back to his data source and judge for yourself. He may be right. But if he’s telling the truth, it’s only because it serves his goals. Reality is, in his opinion, what he says it is. ---
**Author:** ![Clu-Me-In](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@Clu-Me-In](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clu-Me-In)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karl-rove-says-mccain-electoral-support-is-weakening/453003/44 "2008-06-19T18:44:35Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] It’s early…we haven’t gotten a chance to really smear Obama and his Baby Mama yet. 😉 Seriously… it is early. It will be interesting to see what happens when they debate and present different views on taxation, the judiciary, national security and other things. It seems that Obama isn’t anxious for that to happen. [/QUOTE] :dubious: McSame is the most smearable politician since Nixon and Watergate. He has a lengthy record too. One that will soon be spliced and stitched for public consumption. Wait and see. ---
**Author:** ![Clu-Me-In](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@Clu-Me-In](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clu-Me-In)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karl-rove-says-mccain-electoral-support-is-weakening/453003/45 "2008-06-19T18:48:18Z")
[QUOTE=What the … !!!] It’s early…we haven’t gotten a chance to really smear Obama and his Baby Mama yet. 😉 Seriously… it is early. It will be interesting to see what happens when they debate and present different views on taxation, the judiciary, national security and other things. It seems that Obama isn’t anxious for that to happen. [/QUOTE] :dubious: McSame is the most smearable politician since Nixon and Watergate. He has a lengthy record too. One that will soon be spliced and stitched for public consumption. Wait and see. This time we will be ready sir… COUNT ON IT. ---
**Author:** ![BJMoose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5fc32e/32.png) [@BJMoose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BJMoose)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karl-rove-says-mccain-electoral-support-is-weakening/453003/46 "2008-06-19T20:29:56Z")
re: the first question in the OP (Is McCain wasting time, money, and resources trying to court Hillary’s constituency. . .): The other day MSNBC showed a poll that, IIR, showed 19 percent of Clinton voters switching to McCain. My knee-jerk reaction: they’re all a bunch of racists. Doubtless that is a hideous overgeneralization, but there probably is something to it. Consider: the political differences between Clinton and Obama are small compared to the political differences between either of them and McCain. So it seems that anyone switching allegence from Clinton to McCain is doing so not for political reasons, but for personal reasons - they just don’t like _Obama_. Well, enough of that subject. While I have no numbers, I find it difficult to imagine more than a handful of former supporters of Huckabee, Romney, Thompson etc. preferring Obama to McCain. So it looks like McCain will do better at getting the votes of people of the other party who bet on the wrong horses in the primary. ---
**Author:** ![Frostillicus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Frostillicus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frostillicus)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2008, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karl-rove-says-mccain-electoral-support-is-weakening/453003/47 "2008-06-19T22:39:16Z")
Boy, I hope Rove and McCain spend millions trying to flip New Jersey. Every four years, early polls show New Jersey in play for the Republicans, and every four years it ends up solidly Democratic. But I’m sure this year will be different with Mr. Charisma leading the Republican ticket. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karl-rove-says-mccain-electoral-support-is-weakening/453003.md?page=2)