# Karma is a bitch, especially when it's a bull's horn up your ass

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 21, 2026, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470 "2026-04-21T23:51:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/61 "2026-04-25T08:50:16Z")

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[Not the elephants!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYaQDmvNn0k)

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 9:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/62 "2026-04-25T09:19:49Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Picture it: one day being to Pamplona during San Fermines …

My brother-in-law actually ran with the bulls during San Fermines one year. He’s got a video somewhere, from a Spanish newscast, that shows him running with the crowd ahead of the bulls.

This was before he met and married my sister. She would never have allowed him to do such a thing.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/63 "2026-04-25T12:29:12Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> [Millionaire US big game hunter, 75, is trampled to death by five elephants while hunting antelope in central Africa | Daily Mail Online](https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15761595/Millionaire-US-big-game-hunter-75-trampled-death-five-elephants-hunting-antelope-central-Africa.html?ito=social-facebook)

Um, “he died doing what he loved”?

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/64 "2026-04-25T12:59:33Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Um, “he died doing what he loved”?

Mess with nature, die by nature.

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**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/65 "2026-04-25T13:04:00Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> I’m a country boy, but even I have never seen a bull mating with a cow.

I have quite often seen a bull trying to mate with another bull. Keeping a bunch of horny young boys in a field away from the ladies is bound to have that effect. See also: Single sex boarding schools in the UK.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/66 "2026-04-25T13:12:01Z")

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If only he’d read the sign:

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3J6_I9o7WGQ/hqdefault.jpg "Beware of the Elephants | 1968 | Terry Gilliam | Do Not Adjust Your Set") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J6_I9o7WGQ)

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/67 "2026-04-25T13:38:08Z")

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> [@JacobSwan](#):
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> I have quite often seen a bull trying to mate with another bull.

I know that they do this, but have never seen it IRL. What i did see was a foal trying to mate with his mother. 😲

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/68 "2026-04-25T14:15:18Z")

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It’s been [a bad week for Spanish bullfighters](https://www.the-sun.com/news/16272873/bullfighter-worlds-worst-matador-gored-again/). Two serious gorings days apart. Much online Schadenfreude.

_Out came the matador  
Who must have been potted or  
Slightly insane, but who looked rather bored  
Then the picadors of course  
Each one on his horse  
I shouted “Ole” every time one was gored_

- Tom Lehrer

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 25, 2026, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/69 "2026-04-25T18:14:35Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> It’s been [a bad week for Spanish bullfighters](https://www.the-sun.com/news/16272873/bullfighter-worlds-worst-matador-gored-again/). Two serious gorings days apart. Much online Schadenfreude.

To be fair, the article does identify this last dude as Peruvian. ( AND as world’s worst matador on account of repeated gorings. )

> [@JacobSwan](#):
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> a bull trying to mate with another bull. Keeping a bunch of horny young boys in a field

Observe the quote, Class, and tell me if you notice something in the choice of words.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/70 "2026-04-26T17:41:34Z")

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Thirty year old memory of 2nd hand reporting: quite a few bullfighting fans agree that the bull should win every now and then, resulting in the death of the bull fighter.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/71 "2026-04-26T17:43:55Z")

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Makes them not one bit less disgustable.

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**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/72 "2026-04-26T17:56:53Z")

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> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Observe the quote, Class, and tell me if you notice something in the choice of words.

I’m not sure what you’re getting at, unless it’s the accidental pun on horny?

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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/73 "2026-04-26T18:00:50Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Thirty year old memory of 2nd hand reporting: quite a few bullfighting fans agree that the bull should win every now and then, resulting in the death of the bull fighter.

Otherwise it’s like the Globetrotters, entertaining but too predictable.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [April 26, 2026, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/74 "2026-04-26T18:05:44Z")

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> [@JacobSwan](#):
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> unless it’s the accidental pun on horny?

😎

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2026, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/75 "2026-05-02T15:22:30Z")

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Showboating guy discovers that he’s not a cobra commander:

> **[Indian Snake Rescuer Dies on Camera After Getting Bitten by Cobra While...](https://www.ibtimes.sg/indian-snake-rescuer-dies-camera-after-getting-bitten-by-cobra-while-trying-tease-it-front-85994)**
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> The snake rescuer was bitten by a King Cobra while he was teasing the snake in front of a crowd, resulting in the man's death within minutes.

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**Author:** ![Johanna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johanna/32/8318_2.png) [@Johanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johanna)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2026, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/76 "2026-05-02T17:15:42Z")

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It just goes to show what I always keep saying: _Do_ NOT _fuck with the animal kingdom._

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**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2026, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/77 "2026-05-02T18:27:10Z")

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Those snakes are getting out of hand:

> **[Vorführung im Hotel: Deutscher Tourist stirbt nach Schlangenbiss im...](https://www.spiegel.de/panorama/hurghada-in-aegypten-tourist-aus-deutschland-stirbt-nach-schlangen-biss-bei-hotelshow-a-92c84712-d5d1-4ed6-9ed8-5b625d528d53)**
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> Gemeinsam mit seiner Familie besuchte ein Mann aus Bayern in einem ägyptischen Hotel eine sogenannte Schlangenbeschwörung. Dabei biss ihm eines der Tiere ins Bein, der 57-Jährige starb. Jetzt ermittelt auch die deutsche Polizei.

From the article:

> A German tourist has died after attending a snake show at an Egyptian hotel. According to investigators’ findings so far, the 57-year-old had already attended a performance with his family at the hotel in the Hurghada resort area in early April, during which a so-called snake charmer performed for entertainment. According to reports, the performer placed two snakes—presumably cobras—around the guests’ necks. He reportedly allowed one of the snakes to crawl into the Bavarian tourist’s pants, at which point the animal allegedly bit him in the leg.  
> The man from Unterallgäu showed clear symptoms of poisoning and was resuscitated, said a spokesperson for the Memmingen Criminal Investigation Department. He died shortly thereafter in the hospital.  
> Translated with DeepL(dot)com (free version)

At least your idiot died within minutes, the German tourist agonized\* longer.

\* Beware of false friend! And cobras.

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**Post date:** [May 2, 2026, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/78 "2026-05-02T18:43:28Z")

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> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> [quoted from Spiegel by Pardel\_Lux:]  
> He reportedly allowed one of the snakes to crawl into the Bavarian tourist’s pants, at which point the animal allegedly bit him in the leg.

He should have worn his Krachlederne, that would have repelled the snakes.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2026, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/79 "2026-05-02T18:43:29Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Showboating guy discovers that he’s not a cobra commander

> [@Pardel-Lux](#):
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> Those snakes are getting out of hand

I’ve noted a surge in venomous snake handler content on YouTube lately. It just truly annoys me. There are legitimate reasons for keeping “hot” snakes in captivity - i.e. farming for antivenin. Arguably very cautious public education and demystification by very careful professionals might be another. They’re often beautiful and very interesting animals. But as cool pets and to make a buck by showing off your handling skills are not among them.

There have just been too many bad bites by people getting careless or unlucky. I’ve mentioned the folks I’ve personally known who have died or been hospitalized by being careless before. Very experienced, expert people! It’s an old story - get complacent, become careless, boom. I’ve been bitten dozens if not hundreds of times handling snakes. It meant nothing because it was overwhelmingly just pin-pricks. But even though I technically know how to do it, I will not blithely handle venomous reptiles anymore than I will blithely play in traffic.

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**Post date:** [May 4, 2026, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karma-is-a-bitch-especially-when-its-a-bulls-horn-up-your-ass/1029470/80 "2026-05-04T10:30:48Z")

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I hike a fair amount, we are lucky to have a large mountain smack-bang in the middle of Cape Town.

I rarely see snakes, although they are there, apparently a fairly dense number - cant recall it offhand.

I once exhibited my ballet skills with a full leap and half twist, while issuing an operatic soprano scream after I almost stood on a [rinkhals cobra](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinkhals) quitely chilling on a path. My hiking friends still make fun of me. The snake didn’t even point and laugh.

I saw a “snake charmer” with a cobra in a castle in Rajasthan, India. I quickly pushed through the crowd of tourists and moved on. I’m not into cruelty to animals.

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