# Karma's a bitch:  Harvey Weinstein tests positive for corona virus!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 23, 2020, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077 "2020-03-23T05:45:40Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/41 "2020-03-24T04:58:53Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Yeah, Rand Paul’s a douchebag, but he’s quite that of Weinstein’s caliber. (As far as I know)

D’oh, that should be NOT quite of that Weinstein’s caliber. I am certainly not cheering that Rand Paul got corona, although I do hope he’ll at least learn something from the experience.

I generally try to reserve wishing cancer and disease on really bad people, not just your random dickweeds.

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**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/42 "2020-03-24T05:10:34Z")

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The beauty of this is, you don’t have to wish it on Weinstein or Paul; they’ve already got it.

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**Author:** ![RivkahChaya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rivkahchaya/32/8919_2.png) [@RivkahChaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RivkahChaya)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/43 "2020-03-24T05:18:23Z")

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> [@The\_Tooth](#):
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> The beauty of this is, you don’t have to wish it on Weinstein or Paul; they’ve already got it.

I have nothing to add to the Weinstein discussion. I just wanted to note that Tooth has a great quote by a great writer.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/44 "2020-03-24T05:21:04Z")

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If you really hate someone, don’t wish corona on them _now_.

Wish it on them in three weeks time

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**Author:** ![Shalmanese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shalmanese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shalmanese)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/45 "2020-03-24T09:11:58Z")

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[Tweet thread from a lawyer who works with prisoners in Rikers](https://twitter.com/ScottHech/status/1242289100071342080). Absolutely heartbreaking.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/46 "2020-03-24T13:57:24Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> I generally try to reserve wishing cancer and disease on really bad people, not just your random dickweeds.

If you think Weinstein should be dead for his crimes, wouldn’t it make more sense to lobby for an extension of the death penalty to people who did what he did rather than hoping he gets a random disease?

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**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/47 "2020-03-24T14:34:48Z")

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> [@Weirofhermiston](#):
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> The virus wishes to make it known that Weinstein consented to the infection.

Weirofhermiston wins the Internets for the day.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/48 "2020-03-24T14:42:50Z")

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> [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](#):
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> There’s no such thing as Karma. IMO, of course.

To me, the proof that there is no such thing as Karma is that neither Donald Trump nor [Richard Burr](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=892113) has COVID-19.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/49 "2020-03-24T14:54:02Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> If you think Weinstein should be dead for his crimes, wouldn’t it make more sense to lobby for an extension of the death penalty to people who did what he did rather than hoping he gets a random disease?

I don’t recall anyone here saying he _should_ die for his crimes, just that they won’t be sad when he does die. And since he’s already got this disease, that may happen sooner than it would have otherwise. And no one will shed a tear.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/50 "2020-03-24T15:08:01Z")

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> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#):
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> I don’t recall anyone here saying he _should_ die for his crimes, just that they won’t be sad when he does die. And since he’s already got this disease, that may happen sooner than it would have otherwise. And no one will shed a tear.

People in this thread have said the’re glad he has the disease, that it’s a good thing he has it, that he deserves to have it. That’s pretty much saying that he should have the disease.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/51 "2020-03-24T15:24:04Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> People in this thread have said the’re glad he has the disease, that it’s a good thing he has it, that he deserves to have it. That’s pretty much saying that he should have the disease.

Care to amazingly move your amazed goalposts again?

The point is: tough shit for him. It’s a direct consequence of his own actions. Fuck him.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/52 "2020-03-24T15:32:26Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> People in this thread have said the’re glad he has the disease, that it’s a good thing he has it, that he deserves to have it. That’s pretty much saying that he should have the disease.

Personally, I would hate to see his prison sentence cut short. But I won’t dwell on it, whichever way it ends for him.

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**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/53 "2020-03-24T16:21:50Z")

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> [Tweet thread from a lawyer who works with prisoners in Rikers](https://twitter.com/ScottHech/status/1242289100071342080). Absolutely heartbreaking.

That sounds absolutely horrifying. I have no words.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/54 "2020-03-24T16:23:15Z")

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> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#):
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> To me, the proof that there is no such thing as Karma is that neither Donald Trump nor [Richard Burr](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=892113) has COVID-19.

Yeah, they’ll get it, but they have their respirators and top notch medical staff all ready to go. So, still not as proper fucked as many in this country.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/55 "2020-03-24T19:35:38Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> People in this thread have said the’re glad he has the disease, that it’s a good thing he has it, that he deserves to have it. That’s pretty much saying that he should have the disease.

Yes, but you specifically said that people are saying he deserves to die. There is a big difference.

What people are saying is that, due to how bad his crimes are, and given that this disease exists and has to infect people, Weinstein is one of the more deserving candidates. No one is arguing that we should kill him or give him the disease.

And, frankly, I can’t see anything wrong with that. Rape is just _that_ wrong that I can’t see anything wrong with schadenfreude when a serial rapists who used his wealth and power to accomplish his crimes and take advantage of women gets a disease.

That’s all this is. Schadenfreude. No one involved is trying to change it where rape can be punished by a disease. None of these people are saying he shouldn’t be treated, or that we shouldn’t try to stop diseases that affect people like him.

What is morally wrong is that which causes harm. And I can’t see the harm in these feelings as long as they remain feelings.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/56 "2020-03-24T20:31:33Z")

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No, of course, there’s no harm in those feelings. I mean, there would be, if they contributed to a carceral state that has over two million people in prison, assumes if you’re accused of a crime you’re guilty, and has pretty much given up on the idea of rehabilitation, trapping ex-cons into a life of second class citizenship and marginalization. But, of course, no such place like that exists, because a place that did that would be monstrous. So, go ahead and rejoice in the suffering of convicts. I mean, it’s not like they’re PEOPLE or something.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/57 "2020-03-24T21:05:16Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> No, of course, there’s no harm in those feelings. I mean, there would be, if they contributed to a carceral state that has over two million people in prison, assumes if you’re accused of a crime you’re guilty, and has pretty much given up on the idea of rehabilitation, trapping ex-cons into a life of second class citizenship and marginalization. But, of course, no such place like that exists, because a place that did that would be monstrous. So, go ahead and rejoice in the suffering of convicts. I mean, it’s not like they’re PEOPLE or something.

I thought we were talking about Weinstein. One bad dude. But now it’s 2 million convicts. So, wow. That escalated faster than COVID-19.

If moving the goalposts is the only way you know how to win an argument, save us all some time and take your moral victory lap now.

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**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/58 "2020-03-24T21:16:53Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> No, of course, there’s no harm in those feelings. I mean, there would be, if they contributed to a carceral state that has over two million people in prison, assumes if you’re accused of a crime you’re guilty, and has pretty much given up on the idea of rehabilitation, trapping ex-cons into a life of second class citizenship and marginalization. But, of course, no such place like that exists, because a place that did that would be monstrous. So, go ahead and rejoice in the suffering of convicts. I mean, it’s not like they’re PEOPLE or something.

The folks you are talking to are legit mentally ill and morally deranged.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/59 "2020-03-24T21:20:54Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> No, of course, there’s no harm in those feelings. I mean, there would be, if they contributed to a carceral state that has over two million people in prison, assumes if you’re accused of a crime you’re guilty, and has pretty much given up on the idea of rehabilitation, trapping ex-cons into a life of second class citizenship and marginalization. But, of course, no such place like that exists, because a place that did that would be monstrous. So, go ahead and rejoice in the suffering of convicts. I mean, it’s not like they’re PEOPLE or something.

As I said back in post #29, the most vulnerable inmates are being released. [Here’s that cite again.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51947802)

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karmas-a-bitch-harvey-weinstein-tests-positive-for-corona-virus/850077/60 "2020-03-24T21:28:42Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> I thought we were talking about Weinstein. One bad dude. But now it’s 2 million convicts. So, wow. That escalated faster than COVID-19.
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> If moving the goalposts is the only way you know how to win an argument, save us all some time and take your moral victory lap now.

It is amazing how he does that, amirite?

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