# Karoline Leavitt (and her successors) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Tags:** trump\ **Created:** [May 9, 2025, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138 "2025-05-09T06:40:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/321 "2026-10-16T18:06:06Z")
Maybe he should have brought Karoline along with Hope onto the fun plane ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/322 "2026-10-16T18:18:13Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Well, half a scaramucci. So, one zacaria is equal to half a scaramucci. Trump math is pretty complicated, no wonder he quotes such odd percentages. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/323 "2026-10-16T18:22:49Z")
I mean, I also think it is misleading to call someone a physician if they are not at least licensed to practice medicine. Any negative feelings I have about her situation is about using that fact to try and push antimask/antimask nonsense. I would only see this remotely comparable if people here were using the fact she isn’t a lawyer to discredit factually correct legal claims. (Though I struggle to think of a legal concept that would be as harmful as trying to discredit COVID information.) ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/324 "2026-10-16T18:56:22Z")
Looking forward to having a zacharia off at Thanksgiving. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/325 "2026-10-16T19:15:49Z")
That Hannity interview: has anyone checked if her blinks are Morse code? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/326 "2026-10-16T19:16:44Z")
G’bye, Katie. 🥺 There must be an infinite supply of Fox/Mar-a-Lago blondes who’ll meet Trump’s criteria of obeisance, willingness to lie unflinchingly and constant smiling (he hates it when women don’t smile, especially when they’re reporters calling him out on his bullshit). ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/327 "2026-10-16T19:43:23Z")
But how many are sufficiently and minimally competent they won’t draw attention away from him, him, him? That was her true crime, after all ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/328 "2026-10-16T19:49:13Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > > > Well, half a scaramucci. > > So, one zacaria is equal to half a scaramucci… [Somebody at Wikipedia is _very_ on top of things.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_humorous_units_of_measurement#Zacharia) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/329 "2026-10-16T19:52:43Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Somebody at Wikipedia is _very_ on top of things. At least _someone_ is trying to document Trumpometrics properly. I wish them well, it is a nigh impossible task. ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/330 "2026-10-16T19:53:40Z")
We’re going to be invoking Zeno’s Paradox at some point here. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/331 "2026-10-16T19:56:13Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I would only see this remotely comparable if people here were using the fact she isn’t a lawyer to discredit factually correct legal claims. (Though I struggle to think of a legal concept that would be as harmful as trying to discredit COVID information.) It has since come out that she claimed to have _practiced law_, and no quibbling about that, she’s a damned liar. Here’s a YouTube short from Legal Eagle talking about a lot of her bullshit. (Hopefully this renders properly.) [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/ty3bk2oXoRw/maxresdefault.jpg "Trump’s New Press Secretary Is A Fraud") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty3bk2oXoRw) By the way, how prescient was Miller to label this thread “and her successors”? I wonder how many we’ll have in a short amount of time as Trump goes through complete incompetents embarrassing themselves and the administration leading up to the midterm elections? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/332 "2026-10-16T20:03:08Z")
Man, that was one spectacular flameout even for this bunch. Like one of those ships that set off on their first sailing and immediately capsize. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/333 "2026-10-16T20:12:03Z")
The story about Trump’s search for a press secretary mirrors the history of Swamp Castle. - **First Castle:** Built on swamp land, it immediately sank into the ground. - **Second Castle:** Rebuilt in the same spot, and it also sank into the swamp. - **Third Castle:** Built a third time; this one burned down, fell over, and then sank into the swamp. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/334 "2026-10-16T20:15:02Z")
We shall remember her as **[Vasa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship))**. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/335 "2026-10-16T20:20:35Z")
Did it sink straight down, or did _Vasa_ lean? ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/336 "2026-10-16T20:37:40Z")
It sank fast enough for > During the 1961 recovery, thousands of artifacts and at least 15 people were found in and around _Vasa_’s hull by marine archaeologists She has still to beat that, but who knows how many people she can throw under the bus while departing in shame? ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/337 "2026-10-16T20:41:20Z")
> [@Pardel-Lux](#): > > She has still to beat that, but who knows how many people she can throw under the bus while departing in shame? I don’t know if she’s even capable of communicating well enough to throw anyone under the bus but herself. And that she’d do by accident of course. ---
**Author:** ![Pardel-Lux](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pardel-lux/32/20182_2.png) [@Pardel-Lux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pardel-Lux)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/338 "2026-10-16T20:44:39Z")
You have a point there. What a pity! But just as she admitted that her 10-year MLM stint was a pyramid scheme, which is a great mistake for a lawyer to make, she might blunder something by accident. ---
**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/339 "2026-10-16T20:55:17Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > So, one zacaria is equal to half a scaramucci. And officially too! They used the term “half a Scaramucci” on MSNOW: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/yFi3sDoHdKs/maxresdefault.jpg "'Half a Scaramucci': What Katie Zacharia's short stint as Press Secretary says about this admin") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFi3sDoHdKs) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2026, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138/340 "2026-10-16T21:00:11Z")
> [@DWMarch](#): > > They used the term “half a Scaramucci” on MSNOW: Holy shit this is a weird timeline we’ve ended up on. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/karoline-leavitt-and-her-successors/1018138.md?page=18)