# Kate Middleton is pregnant **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [December 3, 2012, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859 "2012-12-03T16:15:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Declan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecae2f/32.png) [@Declan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Declan)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/81 "2012-12-04T00:19:28Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Oh God…we’ve got another, what, six or seven months of this to come… Wait until Kate starts posting the baby pics on facebook. Declan ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/82 "2012-12-04T00:58:51Z")
> [@Palo\_Verde](#): > > “The duchess was admitted Monday to King Edward VII Hospital in Central London with hyperemesis gravidarum (or severe morning sickness), according to a release from the palace.” > > Poor Kate, that’s an awful feeling. The good news it that it is generally a positive sign in terms of high pregnancy hormones and a healthy baby. But it sucks for the woman and can last the whole pregnancy. hopefully it doesn’t get too severe. it can be really tricky then. i worked with a woman who had hg pregs. the first one she lost 40 lbs, the baby was born early weighed 3 pounds something. the second had to be aborted, her liver started failing. the third she lost 60 lbs and the baby was early and just a tiddle over 3 lbs. she was unable to eat anything. they kept her going with ivs and she was in hospital for months. every now and again she would hold down a bite of something, but never anything substantial. just constant regurgitation, and nausea until the pregnancy was over. i’m sure they will be watching kate with every “bing” machine around. she doesn’t look like she has much weight to lose. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/83 "2012-12-04T01:02:17Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > At the last big Commonwealth Heads of Government meeting, the subset that is the 16 Realms agreed that that they would all introduce legislation to change this so that the first-born would become monarch, regardless of gender. The UK parliament has a draft Bill ready, but not yet implemented. I suppose today’s news hurries it along. It can always be backdated anyway I suppose. No, that’s not what I meant. I was talking about the fact that ANY offspring of William’s – male or female – would outrank _Harry_. Not how the the crown would pass to William’s kids reguardless of gender. (As in, if he had a girl then a boy.) ANY child would be before Harry – period. ---
**Author:** ![Icarus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/icarus/32/72_2.png) [@Icarus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Icarus)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/84 "2012-12-04T01:17:01Z")
If it’s a boy - Dom Come If it’s a girl - Freddie Mercury ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/85 "2012-12-04T01:19:42Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > No, that’s not what I meant. I was talking about the fact that ANY offspring of William’s – male or female – would outrank _Harry_. Sure, nobody disputes that. What does this that you posted mean then? > [@](#): > > IF, however, the have a girl, then she has a brother next, that kid will then take precidence over her. ---
**Author:** ![Pai325](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Pai325](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pai325)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/86 "2012-12-04T01:25:23Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE–Have a girl and name her Diana. No!! Maybe as a middle name, but otherwise, no! ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/87 "2012-12-04T02:03:32Z")
> [@SaharaTea](#): > > I’ve never heard of morning sickness so bad that you have to be admitted to a hospital. Sounds miserable. A co-worker said it could be a sign of twins. One of my sisters had this during both her pregnancies. During the first one she actually weighed 5 lbs _less_ when she was wheeled into labor and delivery than before she became pregnant, she had essentially spent 9 months puking. Several of those months she was would have been severely dehydrated had she not been on an IV. During her second pregnancy she managed to gain a couple pounds, but still threw up for about 7 of the 9 months, and spent a couple of them in the hospital. Single births both times. The babies were fine, my sister not so much although she recovered. In the old days such a severe case would have meant death. It’s a bit rare to be that extreme, but at least these days the women survive. I sincerely hope the Duchess doesn’t have such a bad pregnancy as my sister did. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/88 "2012-12-04T02:07:20Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > The previously mentioned [rules changes](http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2098162,00.html) make that permissible, actually. Assuming the changes happen. They’re still in development hell right now. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/89 "2012-12-04T02:11:47Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > What about:Victoria Frances Katherine? Katherine’s another good name. Seriously, that sounds like a good name. Depending on how it goes though, it seems that a lot of them have four names before the Windsor. As a bit of trivia, in S.M. Stirling’s alternate history book The Peshawar Lancers, which takes place in the year 2025, the genealogy of the royal family is different after George V, because of a natural disaster. In that history, in the year 1878, Earth was struck by a series of comet fragments, killing millions and altering the weather so drastically for several years, that civilization as we know it was changed. The British Empire is now centered in India. So it went like this Victoria I 1837-1882, to her son Edward VII 1882-1900 to his son George V 1900-1921 to his daughter Victoria II, 1921-1942 to her cousin Albert I 1942-1989 to his daughter Elizabeth II 1989-2005, to her son John II, 2005-2025, to his son Charles III 2025- The new monarch, Charles III, had three younger siblings, and their names show the blending of British and Indian culture. His sister Sita, an important character in the book, is Sita Mary Elizabeth Jandeen Victoria, of the house of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. ---
**Author:** ![Sarabellum](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarabellum/32/3492_2.png) [@Sarabellum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarabellum)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/90 "2012-12-04T02:27:38Z")
I’d never before heard that Prince Charles has stated that he’ll be George VII when he takes the throne. That’s interesting. (I suppose it makes sense, but really, why’d they name him Charles in the first place if it was such a bad regnant name?) King George (Charles) and (Queen) “Princess Regent” Camilla. What a pair they’ll make. LOL. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/91 "2012-12-04T02:39:14Z")
It’ll help if Camilla takes the name of Gracie. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/92 "2012-12-04T02:43:58Z")
Actually, I think that’s just anti-Stuart speculation. I think Charles and George are more likely regnant names than Philip or Arthur, and his grandfather Albert Frederick Arthur George used George. But it’s up to him, really, and he seems to have no official stance on what his regnant name will/would be. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/93 "2012-12-04T03:18:35Z")
King Ebenezer has a nice ring to it. ---
**Author:** ![Mississippienne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d2c977/32.png) [@Mississippienne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mississippienne)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 5:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/94 "2012-12-04T05:24:57Z")
I like the name James for a boy. It’s a royal name, he would be James III one day, so he’d get an ordinal. And for those who say it’s ‘too Stuart’, Charles was a typically Stuart name as well, and so much for ‘its associated with a failure of a king’, the last king William was Victoria’s reprobate sailor uncle. Also, James comes with several good nicknames. For a girl, I confess I like the idea of Victoria II, but if not that, what about Mary? A sweet name, and the name of two previous queens. ---
**Author:** ![Hedda\_Rosa](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hedda_rosa/32/1204_2.png) [@Hedda\_Rosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hedda_Rosa)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/95 "2012-12-04T05:31:15Z")
I like the idea of Charlotte or Caroline. A princess named Charlotte was heir presumptive in the early 19th century only to be killed while giving birth by an incompetent doctor. It was only because of her death that Victoria was born. Tragic really. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/96 "2012-12-04T05:36:10Z")
> [@Baron\_Greenback](#): > > Sure, nobody disputes that. What does this that you posted mean then? I meant, as of right now, until the laws are changed, a male child of William and Kate would outrank a female child – even if said girl was born first. Similiar to Queen Victoria’s children – her first child was a girl, Princess Victoria\*. Her second was a boy, Prince Albert Victor, aka Edward VII. HE outranked his older sister. Which would be the case right now, until the law is changed. \*Later the Empress of Germany, and mother of the infamous Kaiser Wilhelm II. ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/97 "2012-12-04T05:41:16Z")
> [@Mississippienne](#): > > I like the name James for a boy. It’s a royal name, he would be James III one day, so he’d get an ordinal. And for those who say it’s ‘too Stuart’, Charles was a typically Stuart name as well, and so much for ‘its associated with a failure of a king’, the last king William was Victoria’s reprobate sailor uncle. Also, James comes with several good nicknames. > > For a girl, I confess I like the idea of Victoria II, but if not that, what about Mary? A sweet name, and the name of two previous queens. Kate’s brother’s name is James. Would the Windsors go for the presumptive future king being named after the heir to a party supplies fortune? ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/98 "2012-12-04T06:31:59Z")
> [@Sarabellum1976](#): > > I’d never before heard that Prince Charles has stated that he’ll be George VII when he takes the throne. That’s interesting. (I suppose it makes sense, but really, why’d they name him Charles in the first place if it was such a bad regnant name?) > > King George (Charles) and (Queen) “Princess Regent” Camilla. What a pair they’ll make. LOL. What’s this “Princess Regent”? She’ll be a Queen Consort - and since William is most definitely of age to take over, there’s zero chance Camilla will ever be a regent. ---
**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 6:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/99 "2012-12-04T06:47:39Z")
> [@Mississippienne](#): > > I like the name James for a boy. It’s a royal name, he would be James III one day, so he’d get an ordinal… He’d be James _VIII_, not James III. The Scottish ordinal takes precedence over the English one if it’s higher. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2012, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859/100 "2012-12-04T08:44:43Z")
> [@alphaboi867](#): > > He’d be James _VIII_, not James III. The Scottish ordinal takes precedence over the English one if it’s higher. How so? James VI of Scotland became James I of England. He was the great-nephew of Henry VIII, and followed his first cousin, once removed, Elizabeth I. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kate-middleton-is-pregnant/642859.md?page=6)