# Kathy Griffin and Trump Derangement Syndrome

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 30, 2017, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740 "2017-05-30T23:11:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/61 "2017-05-31T17:36:02Z")

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> [@kayaker](#):
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> OK, was I the only one who _laughed out loud_ on first viewing the picture?

Thank you for illustrating what I pointed out in the OP.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/62 "2017-05-31T17:41:02Z")

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> [@doorhinge](#):
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> I notice that Kathy Griffin, obnoxious asshole, didn’t apologize to Trump. At this point in time, she only appears to be trying to save what’s left of her career.

“I’m very sorry that I pretended to cut off your head.”

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/63 "2017-05-31T17:46:54Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Thank you for illustrating what I pointed out in the OP.

That individual anonymous people with no authority within the liberal community(whatever the hell _that_ consists of) are official representatives of that community just because they offend you?  
Do you _really_ want to go that route? If so, then I can show you videos and pictures of people that (according to your loose standards) should make you ashamed you ever called yourself “conservative”.

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**Author:** ![Okrahoma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90db22/32.png) [@Okrahoma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Okrahoma)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/64 "2017-05-31T17:55:09Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> That individual anonymous people with no authority within the liberal community(whatever the hell _that_ consists of) are official representatives of that community just because they offend you?
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> Do you _really_ want to go that route? If so, then I can show you videos and pictures of people that (according to your loose standards) should make you ashamed you ever called yourself “conservative”.

That, and I quote my OP, “this election cost some liberals their minds”. But please kneejerk all you want.

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**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/65 "2017-05-31T17:59:18Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> Thank you for illustrating what I pointed out in the OP.

Meh, I also laughed at other humor where the vocal majority shouted, “Too soon”.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/66 "2017-05-31T18:06:29Z")

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> [@Okrahoma](#):
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> That, and I quote my OP, “this election cost some liberals their minds”. But please kneejerk all you want.

No, thanks-I’ll just stand back and watch you show us how a pro does it.

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**Author:** ![Corry\_El](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Corry\_El](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Corry_El)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/67 "2017-05-31T18:31:19Z")

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I think the ‘apology’ was at least partly pre-packaged. You do something totally unacceptable, to get attention, then ‘apologize’ to throw gas on the fire you create in the first place between left and right jib jabbers (‘but she apologized, what’s the big deal!?!’ v ‘the apology is not accepted’ and on and on).

I don’t think she’s a secret Trump supporter mind you, I just doubt political conviction (or ‘moral’ conviction, for anti-Trumpers want to label their politics that way) is at the root of it. It’s publicity seeking and in an ideal world would be recognized by all as such and ignored by all (except the Secret Service investigating to make sure it wasn’t an actual threat).

But it’s far from an ideal world and IMO it is another leg down in the public dialog, where the distinction between ‘comedians’, pundits and politicians has receded in general. An entertainer employed by a major news outlet is not an elected Democrat, true. But in today’s landscape IMO not necessarily further away from an elected Democrat than from unnamed true nobody’s making effigies of past presidents, which were not in general that realistic and gory either.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/68 "2017-05-31T18:35:51Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> If so, then I can show you videos and pictures of people that (according to your loose standards) should make you ashamed you ever called yourself “conservative”.

You’re assuming facts not in evidence, like his ability to be shamed.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/69 "2017-05-31T18:43:17Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> You’re assuming facts not in evidence, like his ability to be shamed.

This isn’t The BBQ Pit, so I’m willing to assume that

1. He can feel shame, and
2. He doesn’t have a double standard when it comes to people on his side of the aisle acting the same or worse than the people he condemns on the other side.

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**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/70 "2017-05-31T18:43:39Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> OK okra, I’ll be the response you were hoping to get.
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> “What the? Gasp! How could I be so blind? I have no words to justify this horror! FOX news was right! All liberals are gross meanies who behead people! I see that now! How could I ever have voted against Trump? He deserves our sympathy and admiration! I’m changing my voter affiliation right now in response to just this one example! Take me back, White Jesus!”
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> Is that what you wanted?

More courtsey.

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**Author:** ![Crybaby\_Boobie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crybaby_boobie/32/545_2.png) [@Crybaby\_Boobie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crybaby_Boobie)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/71 "2017-05-31T19:03:34Z")

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I’m now going to wait for the anti-PC crowd to jump in and get Kathy Griffin her job back.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/72 "2017-05-31T19:26:13Z")

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I don’t know if I can ever watch \*Pulp Fiction \*again! :mad:

Happy, Okra?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/73 "2017-05-31T19:36:41Z")

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I love that in his own tweet Prez Snowflake the Orange says his children are having a hard time with it, especially 11 year old Barron. He doesn’t mention his wife, who is apparently asking for copies, laughing, saying something in Slovenian while making ax motions in pantomime, and seems horny for the first time in 9 years.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/74 "2017-05-31T19:39:46Z")

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I lost all respect for Kathy Griffin when she apologized for her stunt.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Parker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@Richard\_Parker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Parker)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/75 "2017-05-31T19:41:41Z")

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Our country gets stupider by the day.

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**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/76 "2017-05-31T19:44:43Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> He doesn’t mention his wife, who is apparently asking for copies, laughing, saying something in Slovenian while making ax motions in pantomime, and seems horny for the first time in 9 years.

Now, you see, THAT is good dark comedy.  
(But are we sure it’s his _head_ she wants to chop?)

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**Author:** ![Merneith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/57b2e6/32.png) [@Merneith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merneith)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/77 "2017-05-31T19:47:23Z")

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> [@Little\_Pig](#):
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> I lost all respect for Kathy Griffin when she apologized for her stunt.

I never had much respect for Kathy Griffin to being with, but as an artist, she should have stood by whatever statement she thought she was making.

As to the image - my first thought was “not helpful”. My second thought was that I liked how Kathy didn’t have a speck of blood on her, like this is just the latest bullshit gift from her cat.

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/78 "2017-05-31T19:52:17Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I love that in his own tweet Prez Snowflake the Orange says his children are having a hard time with it, especially 11 year old Barron.

That’s the part that really chaps my hide, actually. The only time Trump mentions- hell, even seems to _think_ about- Barron is when he can use him politically. I kinda feel sorry for the kid.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/79 "2017-05-31T19:57:19Z")

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If he really thought that was his dad, I hope to God he never saw any of those naked Trump statues.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-and-trump-derangement-syndrome/787740/80 "2017-05-31T20:15:22Z")

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I loathe Il Douche with the fiery passion of a thousand suns, but this is waaaay over the line. Joking about the violent, bloody death of the President of the United States is absolutely unacceptable. She has rightly been fired by CNN.

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