# Kathy Griffin; "Jesus" remarks a bit more offensive that reported **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 18, 2007, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609 "2007-09-18T15:09:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/21 "2007-09-18T17:28:36Z")
Why? Do you think she hurt Jesus’s feelings? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/22 "2007-09-18T17:31:55Z")
Can I sum this up? Comedian makes joke. Frequently offended person gets offended. I’d say something about the Pope’s religion or his bathroom habits, but I wouldn’t want to upset Bill Donohue. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/23 "2007-09-18T17:42:22Z")
[QUOTE=DianaG] Why? Do you think she hurt Jesus’s feelings? [/QUOTE] I don’t think Jesus really cares. But a billion Christians might find having their deity referred to in such a blasphemous way just a tad offensive. ---
**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/24 "2007-09-18T17:46:51Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] I don’t think Jesus really cares. But a billion Christians might find having their deity referred to in such a blasphemous way just a tad offensive. [/QUOTE] It’s not blasphemous, it’s insulting. Not that that necessarily makes it different, but it’s probably worth saying. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/25 "2007-09-18T17:51:28Z")
[QUOTE=DianaG] Why? Do you think she hurt Jesus’s feelings? [/QUOTE] I think this is one of the few things that an atheist ought to be able to directly empathize with. When a person taunts or ridicules someone you love deeply, it affects you. Think of it as someone talking about your mother, or father, or beloved brother or sister. ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/26 "2007-09-18T17:52:28Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] I don’t think Jesus really cares. But a billion Christians might find having their deity referred to in such a blasphemous way just a tad offensive. [/QUOTE] So what? They’re offended, and perfectly free to not watch Kathy Griffin’s show. I think she’ll live. What on earth is it that makes people think they have a right to never be offended? > [@Liberal](#): > > I think this is one of the few things that an atheist ought to be able to directly empathize with. When a person taunts or ridicules someone you love deeply, it affects you. Think of it as someone talking about your mother, or father, or beloved brother or sister. Jesus, in addition to having been dead for 2000 years, is JESUS, and I imagine that he doesn’t especially need my indignant hand-wringing on his behalf. ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/27 "2007-09-18T18:06:20Z")
[QUOTE=DianaG] So what? They’re offended, and perfectly free to not watch Kathy Griffin’s show. I think she’ll live. What on earth is it that makes people think they have a right to never be offended? [/QUOTE] I never said that KG should be censored, censured, or otherwise, or that people should expect to never be offended. I did say that what she said could reasonably be construed as offensive. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/28 "2007-09-18T18:29:03Z")
One of my students made a comment about the Grammy Awards: “Here are these assholes who sing songs to my kids about bangin’ their bitch ho’s, killing people and dealing drugs and when they win the Grammy, they point to the sky and say ‘Thank you Jesus!’ What a bunch of bullshit.” Is the Catholic League pleased to hear those heartfelt praises to the all mighty? ---
**Author:** ![AHoosierMama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/258eb7/32.png) [@AHoosierMama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHoosierMama)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/29 "2007-09-18T18:33:01Z")
[QUOTE=Cat Fight] This is what passes for offensive? If I were a Christian, I’d be much more miffed at all the drugged up, groupie-screwing rockers thanking Jesus for their MTV moon men, or the football players certain Jesus gave them the strength they needed for that touchdown. Oh, and I finally saw Life on the D-List. Griffin is hilarous. [/QUOTE] I, in fact, worship Kathy Griffin. I’m thinking of founding a church. ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/30 "2007-09-18T18:43:46Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] I think this is one of the few things that an atheist ought to be able to directly empathize with. When a person taunts or ridicules someone you love deeply, it affects you. Think of it as someone talking about your mother, or father, or beloved brother or sister. [/QUOTE] She is not required to respect religious beliefs or defer to those who do. She is a comedian and anyone who’s seen her bit should have expected something that was sure to displease some folks in the audience – any audience. I’m sure they would have been fine with another group being the butt of her jokes. Oh well…I guess that day they were “the statue.” ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/31 "2007-09-18T19:13:28Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] I think this is one of the few things that an atheist ought to be able to directly empathize with. When a person taunts or ridicules someone you love deeply, it affects you. Think of it as someone talking about your mother, or father, or beloved brother or sister. [/QUOTE] You’re in luck! There’s a genre of joke specifically aimed at Yo Mama. Yep, the Yo Mama joke. But wait! There’s more! A TV show based on nothing but Yo Mama jokes. [http://www.bestyomamajoke.com/](http://www.bestyomamajoke.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/32 "2007-09-18T19:17:12Z")
[QUOTE=Duke of Rat] You’re in luck! [/QUOTE] That’s what your sister said. ---
**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/33 "2007-09-18T19:27:51Z")
[QUOTE=Exapno Mapcase] Kathy Griffin’s remarks were made a week ago at what are usually called the “Daytime” Emmys. [/QUOTE] I thought the “Daytime” Emmys were the Emmys for soap operas and talk shows and stuff that airs … you know … in the daytime. I had been led to believe this Kathy Griffin thing occurred at the non-televised technical awards show for the regular, “Primetime” Emmys. I’m so friggin’ confused. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/34 "2007-09-18T19:43:25Z")
[QUOTE=Kalhoun] She is not required to respect religious beliefs or defer to those who do. She is a comedian and anyone who’s seen her bit should have expected something that was sure to displease some folks in the audience – any audience. I’m sure they would have been fine with another group being the butt of her jokes. Oh well…I guess that day they were “the statue.” [/QUOTE] I don’t know what you’re on about, but I didn’t say anything about any of that. I was just trying to explain to someone who asked why it would hurt someone’s feelings. I do realize that no one owes me any feel-goodness. ---
**Author:** ![recessiveMeme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/46a35a/32.png) [@recessiveMeme](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/recessiveMeme)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/35 "2007-09-18T19:54:51Z")
[QUOTE=jsc1953] But a billion Christians might find having their deity referred to in such a blasphemous way just a tad offensive. [/quote] Any time anyone publicly thanks Jesus for anything, aren’t they implicitly denying the veracity of all other faiths? That’s probably offensive to the billions of, well, just about everyone else out there. What, Krishna isn’t good enough to help you win an Emmy? Further, when the winner of any particular contest thanks Jesus for His assistance, are they not implying that everyone else involved in the competition lost _because_ Jesus chose not to help them? Why does Jesus hate the other guy so much? If anything, acknowledging your victory had nothing to do with Jesus is the least offensive statement possible where Christians are concerned. [QUOTE=DianaG] Do you think she hurt Jesus’s feelings? [/quote] The best thing about insulting Jesus is that he pretty much _has_ to forgive you… Bob: “Hey Jesus, you suck!” Jesus: “My son, this will not stand, ya know? This unchecked aggression will not stand, man.” Bob: "Whoa guy, don’t get your sandals in a bunch, I’m only kidding. Forgive me? Jesus: “Well jeez, it’s not like I have any choice…” ---
**Author:** ![enigm4tic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@enigm4tic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enigm4tic)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/36 "2007-09-18T19:57:19Z")
> [@Duke of Rat](#): > > You’re in Luck! > [QUOTE=Lamar Mundane] > That’s what your sister said. [/quote] Epic win! 😃 that was hilarious (does thinking that make me immature?) ---
**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/37 "2007-09-18T20:02:41Z")
[QUOTE=recessiveMeme] Any time anyone publicly thanks Jesus for anything, aren’t they implicitly denying the veracity of all other faiths? [/QUOTE] Anything that comes out of the mouth of a celebrity accepting an award is probably bs anyway; and any credit they want to pass around is fine with me. Jesus is less offensive than their lawyer, as far as I’m concerned. And an implicit offense is probably better than an explicit one. ---
**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/38 "2007-09-18T20:03:52Z")
[QUOTE=Lamar Mundane] That’s what your sister said. [/QUOTE] Oh man, don’t tell me she said it to you, _too_! 😃 (Great comeback and perfect illustration of the point, BTW) ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/39 "2007-09-18T20:03:53Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] I think this is one of the few things that an atheist ought to be able to directly empathize with. When a person taunts or ridicules someone you love deeply, it affects you. Think of it as someone talking about your mother, or father, or beloved brother or sister. [/QUOTE] Yeah, but as far as I know, no member of my family is omnipotent and none claims to have created the universe. Had they, I’m sure Griffin’s comments wouldn’t have bothered them much, not while they’re busy creating natural disasters and killing first-borns and whatnot. ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609/40 "2007-09-18T20:05:05Z")
[QUOTE=recessiveMeme] Any time anyone publicly thanks Jesus for anything, aren’t they implicitly denying the veracity of all other faiths? That’s probably offensive to the billions of, well, just about everyone else out there. What, Krishna isn’t good enough to help you win an Emmy? [/QUOTE] I think it’s been pretty well established that “my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, through Whom all things are possible”[sup]TM[/sup] is pretty much the only major deity that cares about things like award shows, nascar racing, and the futbol. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kathy-griffin-jesus-remarks-a-bit-more-offensive-that-reported/419609.md?page=3)