# Kato Kaelin planted evidence! OJ case. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 17, 2016, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150 "2016-07-17T21:18:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![lance\_strongarm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/87869e/32.png) [@lance\_strongarm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lance_strongarm)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/21 "2016-07-19T15:41:14Z")
Obviously. It was a simple matter to get the victim’s blood and OJ’s blood and then spatter it on OJ’s car. No problem. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/22 "2016-07-19T16:16:02Z")
I think it was in _Outrage_ that Bugliosi walked through the steps that would have had to happen had OJ actually been framed. His list is pretty much unchallengeable (as far as “how did glove get there, how did blood get here,” etc.) and if the basic prosecution case is not accurate, the things that created the evidence are somewhere outside both the laws of probability AND the laws of physics. Like the JFK case, you can only make counter-arguments by cherry-picking your points and ignoring all contrary evidence, much of which is quite solid. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/23 "2016-07-19T18:16:41Z")
I had never really thought of this possibility until our new OP friend brought it up. Now, of course, it all seems clear as day. Kato Kaelin has only one less K in his name than the Ku Klux Klan has in theirs. I also happen to know that his real middle name is actually Kubby which cinches it. The KKK is a WHITE supremacist group. O.J.'s Bronco was WHITE and O.J. is BLACK. This results in two WHITES and one BLACK which adds up to THREE which is an ODD NUMBER. NINE is also an ODD NUMBER. So is ELEVEN . So is TWO-THOUSAND and ONE! Many of the words I am using here are in CAPITAL LETTERS. Which is EVIDENCE enough in ITSELF. I think you all know where this LEADS. I would tell you all MORE but I don’t want to be OBVIOUS. ETA: the first letter of O.J.'s name is “O”… the first LETTER of Kato’s name is “K”. Put together this spells “OK” and murder is NOT “OK”. Ignore this fact at your PERIL. ---
**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2016, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/24 "2016-07-19T20:16:36Z")
Thank you for not using red. ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/25 "2016-07-21T17:08:51Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > I think it was in _Outrage_ that Bugliosi walked through the steps that would have had to happen had OJ actually been framed. His list is pretty much unchallengeable (as far as “how did glove get there, how did blood get here,” etc.) and if the basic prosecution case is not accurate, the things that created the evidence are somewhere outside both the laws of probability AND the laws of physics. > > Like the JFK case, you can only make counter-arguments by cherry-picking your points and ignoring all contrary evidence, much of which is quite solid. In his book “Journey into Darkness” FBI serial killer expect John Douglas has an absolutely definitive chapter on the killings. Four cops, two who didn’t know the other two, decided to frame O.J. before they even knew if he had an air tight alibi! And one of them was two months ways from retiring with a spotless record. They were willing to lose their jobs, their pensions, and risk prison just to frame O.J. for a double murder? How dumb do these cops have to be. How did the killer manage to kill two people at once with little blood on his clothes. Nicole’s throat was sliced, nearly decapitating her while the killer held her from behind, and the blood went forward. After she was dead, other cuts were issued. Douglas thinks that O.J. was going to try to make it look like a robbery and/or sex crime gone wrong, but then Goldman came on the scene, and he had to kill him and get the hell out of there, in time to make his limo and establish an alibi. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2016, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/26 "2016-07-21T23:32:27Z")
> [@Ingalls831](#): > > Hello, didn’t Kato have long, blonde hair?! Not at the time of the murders. The recent miniseries showed him with long hair because people tend to remember him during the trial and afterwards, when he had shoulder-length hair. But during the depositions, shortly after the murders, his hair was short(er) and spiky. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/27 "2016-07-22T00:30:05Z")
> [@](#): > > Even Fuhrman said his (Kato’s) eyes were “blood shot” and “glassy” when he first talked to him - he was under influence of something! Of course, if you just committed a crime like that; was a part of committing a crime like that! Yeah…I see what you mean. It COULD be that he was just, you know, under the influence of something, but using Occam’s Razor (and making sure we are well grounded by our industrial strength irony detector), the easiest and least complex plausible theory MUST be that he was glassy eyed and blood shot because he had just committed the murder of the century, using complex Machiavellian strategy that would make Sherlock Holmes weep while hiding such a towering intellect under the facade of an idiot! You’ve convinced me! I think you should write this up to the authorities so that warrants for arrest can be sent out and this fiend apprehended before he takes over the world!!! ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/28 "2016-07-22T03:52:48Z")
The motive for your hypothetical Killer Kato K. doesn’t make much sense to me. Why would a financially insecure houseguest kill the woman he was staying with, frame her husband, and leave their two children without parents? Wouldn’t he be destabilizing his present living situation & risking future living situations? Oh, sure, hypothetically, someone might take the risks involved in that, but it’s asking for a lot of personal hassle with likely no upside. Orenthal Simpson had a history of domestic violence. That’s where the police looked from the beginning, that’s the likely explanation. ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [July 22, 2016, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/29 "2016-07-22T21:46:10Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Personally, I don’t think Kato was bright enough to frame O. J. ^^ This. The Kato Dude has been stoned since he was 13. I don’t see him as a violent stoner either. ---
**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/30 "2016-07-23T02:08:14Z")
It all makes sense to me now. I think Obama was behind Kato’s murder of Nicole and Goldman and framing O.J. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![ThelmaLou](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thelmalou/32/390_2.png) [@ThelmaLou](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ThelmaLou)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2016, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/31 "2016-07-23T05:25:42Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Personally, I don’t think Kato was bright enough to frame O. J. This. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/32 "2016-08-01T13:15:24Z")
I kind of want to hear how the OP explains how Kato arranged for: (a) the killer to have the same shoe size as OJ; (b) OJ to seriously gash his hand on the night of the murders without remembering how he did it; © OJ to blatantly lie (by claiming to have been sleeping) to the limo driver who saw him entering his house just before he was due to be picked up. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/33 "2016-08-01T13:59:35Z")
Kato Kaelin always struck me as barely being able to remember “first pants, then shoes”. Just not a conspiracy-capable guy. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/34 "2016-08-01T14:01:41Z")
ONE leg at a time?? OMG, WHICH leg? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2016, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/35 "2016-08-01T14:32:09Z")
Among all the dumb theories about the murders I’ve heard this is the most recent. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2016, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/36 "2016-08-02T22:54:29Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > OJ has (in so many words) admitted to the crime. When was that?! ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/37 "2016-08-04T14:48:17Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Kato isn’t bright enough to frame a velvet Elvis. I am so stealing that line! > [@gigi](#): > > When was that?! [ifI DID IT](https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=If+I+did+it) ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/38 "2016-08-04T15:19:39Z")
> [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](#): > > I had never really thought of this possibility until our new OP friend brought it up. Now, of course, it all seems clear as day. > > Kato Kaelin has only one less K in his name than the Ku Klux Klan has in theirs. I also happen to know that his real middle name is actually Kubby which cinches it. > > The KKK is a WHITE supremacist group. O.J.'s Bronco was WHITE and O.J. is BLACK. This results in two WHITES and one BLACK which adds up to THREE which is an ODD NUMBER. > > NINE is also an ODD NUMBER. So is ELEVEN . So is TWO-THOUSAND and ONE! > > Many of the words I am using here are in CAPITAL LETTERS. Which is EVIDENCE enough in ITSELF. > > I think you all know where this LEADS. I would tell you all MORE but I don’t want to be OBVIOUS. > > ETA: the first letter of O.J.'s name is “O”… the first LETTER of Kato’s name is “K”. Put together this spells “OK” and murder is NOT “OK”. > > Ignore this fact at your PERIL. I howled at this. 🙂 You’re really good at it! Sadly, there are people in my sphere who spout arguments that are almost word-for-word. Not about OJ, though. Building 7 comes to mind. Just wanted to say, nicely done! ---
**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/39 "2016-08-04T16:28:12Z")
OJ couldn’t have done it. [Chewbacca defense](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewbacca_defense) > [@](#): > > \*\*Cochran \*\*: > …ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense! > > \*\*Gerald Broflovski \*\*: > Damn it! … He’s using the Chewbacca defense! > > **Cochran** : > Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I’m a lawyer defending a major record company, and I’m talkin’ about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you’re in that jury room deliberatin’ and conjugatin’ the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests. ---
**Author:** ![42fish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/4/b487fb/32.png) [@42fish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/42fish)\ **Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150/40 "2016-08-05T15:15:45Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > [ifI DID IT](https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=If+I+did+it) And with even less plausible deniability\*: While receiving counseling in prison from football player turned minister Rosie Greer, O.J. blurted out loudly enough for a guard to hear. “I did it! I didn’t mean to!” Unfortunately for the prosecution, Judge Ito ruled the guard’s testimony inadmissible despite legal precedents that overheard privileged conversations are admissible as evidence. \*Although in arguing against allowing the guard to testify, Johnnie Cochran made a game attempt by suggesting that the guard could have overheard the last part of a sentence like “Can you believe that people think I did it?” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kato-kaelin-planted-evidence-oj-case/760150.md?page=3)