# Katrina

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 27, 2005, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837 "2005-08-27T04:44:37Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 17\
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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/361 "2005-09-02T23:01:30Z")

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> So, is part of the plan now to breed antibiotic resistant superbugs? What in the hell did they do this for?

Unfortunately, it’s standard medical practice to dispense antibiotics like they were Tic-Tacs. Everybody knows that superbugs will eventually show up, but hopes that someone else will figure out a solution.

Not unlike what happened with the levees.

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**Author:** ![Scotticher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Scotticher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scotticher)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2005, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/362 "2005-09-02T23:18:01Z")

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> [@Mama Tiger](#):
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> New Orleans will be back. And it will be remarkably like the New Orleans we remember. **The biggest difference may be that it’s without a few thousand of its worst citizens, which frankly doesn’t break my heart.**

I sincerely hope that I am misunderstanding your meaning here.

_Bolding mine_

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/363 "2005-09-03T02:33:19Z")

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i stared at the radio for a few seconds before i yelped “what???!!!” when i heard bush say “no one knew the levees would break”. i can only figure the man has watched sports programs on tv and nothing else. (no history, goats!)

i read about new orleans and hurricane danger over 15 years ago. there are numerous books, articles, tv reports, and anytime a storm puts a rain band in the gulf, weather people go on and on about “could this be the big one for new orleans?”.

i thought the mayor of new orleans finally ripped the veil of denial away from everyone and said exactly what is going on. earlier this week, tues and wends, i was thinking he was overly optimistic. now the reality of the situation is being shown and he is telling everyone that reality.

this crisis really shows the power of the press. reporters have done more to help the people of this region than the agencies. perhaps the red cross and fema should be inbedded with the reporters, not the other way around.

bosda di’chi of tricor, are you channeling anderson cooper. that is exactly what he said to the senator of louisiana last night. you could feel the fustration through the tv.

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**Author:** ![KarlGrenze](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/dbc845/32.png) [@KarlGrenze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGrenze)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/364 "2005-09-03T12:40:14Z")

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> [@Scotticher](#):
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> I sincerely hope that I am misunderstanding your meaning here.
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> _Bolding mine_

I was thinking that perhaps the angry mobs would be done in… but I doubt it.

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**Author:** ![Diceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Diceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diceman)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/365 "2005-09-03T23:20:31Z")

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I’m hearing that there’s a lot of animosity between the city of New Orleans and the rest of Louisiana. In particular, the city and state governments don’t talk to each other any more than is absolutely necessary. If true, then I think we may know why there was such an appalling lack of communication in this disaster.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Tiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6de8d8/32.png) [@Mama\_Tiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Tiger)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/366 "2005-09-03T23:31:25Z")

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What I meant, **Scotticher** , is that either by getting themselves killed by police/military, or by getting themselves arrested and prosecuted federally (as was discussed in today’s Times Picayune), there will be a lot of New Orleans’ worst bad guys off the streets. And since the New Orleans bad guys can be really, really bad, it will be a better city without them.

No, I wasn’t wishing death on them. Just pointing out that few people will miss having them around no matter how they end up causing themselves to no longer be loose on the streets.

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**Author:** ![bluecanary](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bluecanary/32/3614_2.png) [@bluecanary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bluecanary)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2005, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/367 "2005-09-03T23:47:53Z")

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> Originally posted by **Diceman**  
> They also say that armed MP’s are in the city

Oh no! Members of Parliament! With guns!

Yeah, yeah, I know.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2005, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/368 "2005-09-04T00:15:18Z")

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> [@bluecanary](#):
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> Oh no! Members of Parliament! With guns!

Ooohh, a Tyney Tyney joke from the fellow from Newcastle. I guess it’s to be expected. 😉

Army Times has more on the operation, under an ominous headline:  
[Troops begin combat operations in New Orleans](http://www.armytimes.com/story.php?f=1-292925-1077495.php)

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> Combat operations are underway on the streets “to take this city back” in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
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> “This place is going to look like Little Somalia,” Brig. Gen. Gary Jones, commander of the Louisiana National Guard’s Joint Task Force told Army Times Friday as hundreds of armed troops under his charge prepared to launch a massive citywide security mission from a staging area outside the Louisiana Superdome. “We’re going to go out and take this city back. This will be a combat operation to get this city under control.”

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**Author:** ![SnakesCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4af34b/32.png) [@SnakesCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakesCatLady)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2005, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/369 "2005-09-04T00:43:25Z")

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I am so sorry it has come to this. Our soldiers having to fight against citizens of their own country. I realize the necessity but it really breaks my heart.

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2005, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/370 "2005-09-04T01:06:38Z")

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> [@Diceman](#):
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> Unfortunately, it’s standard medical practice to dispense antibiotics like they were Tic-Tacs. Everybody knows that superbugs will eventually show up, but hopes that someone else will figure out a solution.
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> Not unlike what happened with the levees.

Why do you hate America? 😉

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**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2005, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/371 "2005-09-04T02:13:44Z")

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> [@Army Times via Squink](#):
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> Combat operations are underway on the streets “to take this city back” in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.
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> “This place is going to look like Little Somalia,” Brig. Gen. Gary Jones, commander of the Louisiana National Guard’s Joint Task Force told Army Times Friday as hundreds of armed troops under his charge prepared to launch a massive citywide security mission from a staging area outside the Louisiana Superdome. “We’re going to go out and take this city back. This will be a combat operation to get this city under control.”

Yikes. Get this cowboy a Playstation and a sixpack of brew before he escalates things into his own personal wet dream.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2005, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/372 "2005-09-17T00:03:58Z")

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the fellow who wrote the weather warning we discussed upthread was on cnn’s anderson cooper show earlier, and will be on msnbc’s countdown tonight.

he does indeed work for noaa and felt that he needed to place the warning out there in the plainest language as he watched katrina on sat. imaging.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2005, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/373 "2005-09-17T00:30:08Z")

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> [@rocking chair](#):
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> he does indeed work for noaa and felt that he needed to place the warning out there in the plainest language as he watched katrina on sat. imaging.

Good for him. He took a pretty strong stand unlike I had ever seen in these matters. It does make you wonder though how he felt when Katrina didn’t hit New Orleans very hard initially. Then, the levees broke and he was right.

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**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2005, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/374 "2005-09-17T14:01:05Z")

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his warning proved correct for the all of the gulf area hit by katrina. without the levee breaches miss and al would be on the news constantly.

he did say he went through the warning with a fine tooth comb. checking each statement. he believed none of it could be left out.

i know i was surprized by the warning. if the weather service put that out… yep, visiting minn was in order.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/375 "2005-09-28T02:58:09Z")

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[Moldy hurricane houses may have to be destroyed](http://www.cnn.com/2005/HEALTH/09/27/monster.mold.ap/index.html)

“May”?!

From CNN:

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> NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (AP) – Wearing goggles, gloves, galoshes and a mask, Veronica Randazzo lasted only 10 minutes inside her home in St. Bernard Parish. Her eyes burned, her mouth filled with a salty taste, and she felt nauseous.
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> Her 26-year-old daughter, Alicia, also covered in gear, came out coughing.
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> “That mold,” she said. “It smells like death.”

And it gets better:

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> Don’t expect help from insurance companies, either. Most policies were revised in the last decade to exclude mold damage because of “sick building” lawsuits alleging illnesses. Although mold’s danger to those with asthma or allergies is real, there’s little or no science behind other claims, and a lot of hype.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/376 "2005-09-28T03:32:22Z")

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One of the local news channels sent a reporter out to inspect mold houses after Hurricane Floyd. One mold in particular – I can’t remember the name – left dinner-plate sized, bluish-greenish-black splotches on the walls. They said it was one of the worst ones you could get.

And it’s not just the houses that will have to be destroyed; anything inside that can’t be bleached can be considered a loss at this point.

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [September 28, 2005, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katrina/318837/377 "2005-09-28T03:46:13Z")

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Whoa! the Google ads right now are for:

- George W. bush

- Replace Bush?

- Resignation Speech

:dubious: 🙂

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