# Katy Perry's PR nightmare. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 18, 2018, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764 "2018-03-18T04:44:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/21 "2018-03-18T07:00:03Z")
It is a but surreal. šŸ˜‰ I need to get some sleep too. Iā€™ll check back tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/22 "2018-03-18T07:14:20Z")
I keep seeing it reported the Sisters order bought the property in 1972. Yet the court ruled it belongs to the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. This article says the church claims authority over the nuns order and they control the property? Iā€™m astonished the Churchā€™s authority over the nuns could negate a private purchase they made in 1972. I didnā€™t think property rights worked like that. Itā€™s too complicated for me to understand. But, the courts did rule for the church. > **[Katy Perry battling nuns in bid to buy former convent in Los Feliz](https://abc7.com/katy-perry-los-feliz-sister-catherine-rose-nuns-archdiocese/816887/)** > > The Archdiocese of Los Angeles is involved in a legal battle with the Sisters of the Immaculate Heart of Mary over the sale of the nuns' former convent in Los Feliz, which has attracted the eyes of pop star Katy Perry and nightlife maven Dana... > [@](#): > > The Sisters of the Most Holy and Immaculate Heart of the Blessed Virgin Mary purchased the 8 acres in 1972, and the proceeds are set to care for the five sisters who have all relocated to retirement homes. > [@](#): > > The lawsuit claims that the Immaculate Heart of Mary institute is ultimately governed by the Holy See and supervised by the Pope ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/23 "2018-03-18T07:16:11Z")
> [@blue\_infinity](#): > > . . .Their palatial 22,000 square foot, $15 million dollar home. Maybe the diocese thought thatā€™s a bit much for a couple of nuns to be knocking around in, and more humble quarters would suit. Yeah, itā€™s hardly what you think of as a ā€œconvent.ā€ Iā€™ve actually been in there. (I was part of a committee on school accountability and one of the assistant superintendents of LA Unified apparently had once been a member of their order, so she managed get a room there for one of our meetings.) In fact, it was essentially a resort for nuns. [Take a look](https://www.google.com/maps/place/3410+Waverly+Dr,+Los+Angeles,+CA+90027/@34.11289,-118.2754073,181m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2c0c7c0960959:0x27d0bdb78e98ef44!8m2!3d34.1125503!4d-118.2745651?hl=en&authuser=0). Some friends of mine live nearby, and theyā€™d just soon the place not become a hotel/tourist attraction, because the traffic there already has gotten bad enough from people cutting through to get to Los Feliz Blvd. ---
**Author:** ![I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/i_love_me_vol.i/32/521_2.png) [@I\_Love\_Me\_Vol.I](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_Love_Me_Vol.I)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/24 "2018-03-18T07:17:15Z")
> [@blue\_infinity](#): > > Also, I donā€™t think you have to worry about Katy losing her fans, **aceplace**. R Kelly peed on an underage girl and people still buy his stuff. > ā€¦ Yeah. Also, R. Kelly peed on the girl as part of a movie the two are starring in. Itā€™s eight minutes long and went straight to video. Wellā€¦ streaming. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Feldon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lord_feldon/32/341_2.png) [@Lord\_Feldon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Feldon)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/25 "2018-03-18T07:18:03Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Iā€™m astonished the Churchā€™s authority over the nuns could negate a private purchase they made in 1972. It sounds like the nuns didnā€™t purchase the property, the order did. And the order is owned by the church, not by the nuns. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 7:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/26 "2018-03-18T07:20:10Z")
> [@Hilarity\_N.Suze](#): > > But somebody does now confuse her with Miley Cyrus. Probably even someone besides me. Anybody who confuses Katy Perry with Miley Cyrus should look below their necks. That would quickly clear things up. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 9:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/27 "2018-03-18T09:14:18Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > ā€¦the Sisters of the Most Holyā€¦ With capitals? That settles it, then. You appear to have started from a conclusion, based on a preconception that nuns can do no wrong, and then attempted to shoehorn the story into your outraged narrative. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/28 "2018-03-18T10:17:25Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > In fact, it was essentially a resort for nuns. [Take a look](https://www.google.com/maps/place/3410+Waverly+Dr,+Los+Angeles,+CA+90027/@34.11289,-118.2754073,181m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x80c2c0c7c0960959:0x27d0bdb78e98ef44!8m2!3d34.1125503!4d-118.2745651?hl=en&authuser=0). Is that a helicopter pad past the parking lot? The circle with the Maltese cross. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/29 "2018-03-18T10:58:33Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > And KPā€™s new haircut makes her look like a 45 year-old soccer mom (but at least no one confuses her with Zooey Deschanel anymore). Hold on there, being confused with Zooey Deschanel is a _bad_ thing? > [@DesertDog](#): > > Is that a helicopter pad past the parking lot? The circle with the Maltese cross. You read **guizot** post. Traffic around the nun spa is already a nightmare, and nuns are notoriously hard workers. Even with a helicopter thereā€™s barely time to schedule a bikini wax in between Stations of the Cross and Vespers. ---
**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 11:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/30 "2018-03-18T11:20:17Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Hold on there, being confused with Zooey Deschanel is a _bad_ thing?. Not at all (unless youā€™re using your similar resemblance for purposes of identity theft). ---
**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/31 "2018-03-18T11:27:55Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Oooh boy. Nuns, with an oath of service, violated the oath of service to their Archdiocese and remained in occupation of a building for years. They decided that they would not allow the sale of a building that the Church had ordered them to leave because they did not like her music videos, and went and sold it to someone else. The Church took them to court, the nuns lost, and the Church sold it to Katy. > > Nuns violated an oath of service, stole a property worth millions and sold it. Itā€™s hard to grow older. The brain makes funny choices. > > Itā€™s also hard to see where Katy did anything wrong. As I understand it, this is exactly what happened. Katy just happened to step in the middle of it. I fail to see how purchasing the property would cause her to lose fansā€¦?!? [sub] I donā€™t like her blonde makeover. The haircut alone makes her look matronly, but to each her own, I guess.[/sub] ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/32 "2018-03-18T13:33:08Z")
Iā€™ve had it up to here with nuns and their constant nunning. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/33 "2018-03-18T14:05:18Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Is that a helicopter pad past the parking lot? The circle with the Maltese cross. Sure looks like one. Note too that the swimming pool is in the shape of a fishā€¦ ā€œGet thee to a nunnery!ā€ ā€”_ **Hamlet** _, Act 3, Scene 1 ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/34 "2018-03-18T14:19:05Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I used to be competitive, but that changes as the years go by. Winning isnā€™t the end all. Thatā€™s the spirit. Donā€™t think of yourself as a loserā€” just a catalyst for your competitorsā€™ wins. ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/35 "2018-03-18T15:07:46Z")
Iā€™m not getting how Katy Perry is to blame in the least. The nuns thought they owned, and had the right to sell, their property. \*\*\*\*They sold it \*\*\*\*to a restauranteur. The Archdiocese thought THEY owned, and had the right to sell the property, and they sold it to Katy Perry. Either way the nuns would have had to move. One way the nuns got the money, the other way it went to the Archdiocese. Katy Perry just wanted the real estate she had paid for. It was the Archdiocese that essentially stole what the nuns thought was their payday. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/36 "2018-03-18T15:17:13Z")
> [@NDP](#): > > Anybody who confuses Katy Perry with Miley Cyrus should look below their necks. That would quickly clear things up. They have a lot in common; ex: They could both use a good long hot shower with scrubbing brushes and clarifying shampoo. It wouldnā€™t give them class, but itā€™s a good place to start. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/37 "2018-03-18T15:19:19Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Doesnā€™t matter if she had the legal upperhand. It actually does matter. I canā€™t be bothered to dig through who actually had legal rights to the property. But those rights are based on laws and financial transactions, not on who has the most sympathetic persona. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/38 "2018-03-18T15:29:31Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I donā€™t know enough details. Just sticky this at the top of every outrage thread you start. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/39 "2018-03-18T16:09:35Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Just sticky this at the top of every outrage thread you start. How many details does aceplace need for an outrage thread? Nun. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/40 "2018-03-18T16:34:27Z")
> [@Riemann](#): > > How many details does aceplace need for an outrage thread? > > Nun. Itā€™s his habit. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764.md?page=3)