# Katy Perry's PR nightmare.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 18, 2018, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764 "2018-03-18T04:44:28Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/41 "2018-03-18T16:55:50Z")

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What kind of meat do priests eat on Fridays?

Nun. (As if you didn’t know!) 😃

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/42 "2018-03-18T19:40:45Z")

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I assumed this was going to be about how she stole a kiss from a young man who said he wanted his first kiss to be with someone special in a relationship. There’s some debate over whether this counts as sexual harassment, as people would likely consider it so with the genders reversed. He has said it is not (and discussed it with his friends saying that it didn’t count, since he didn’t kiss her back). Regardless, it was a dick move on Perry’s part.

(I admit that I previously did not realize it was a dick move, because the videos I’d seen circulating did not include the part about why the kid had never “kissed a girl.”)

That said, I do have to give **aceplace** a bit of credit. That story, which actually does make her look bad, isn’t really circulating (beyond the initial reporting) outside the anti-feminist spheres. But this one is. When it comes to publicity, the details don’t matter as much as the spin.

So he’s right that the details likely don’t matter. But that’s because of the state of how we consume news in this country.

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**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/43 "2018-03-18T20:29:59Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> (snipped, like KP’s hair)…And KP’s new haircut makes her look like a 45 year-old soccer mom (but at least no one confuses her with Zooey Deschanel anymore).

I’m 60 so 45 y.o. soccer moms are hot young things to me.  
😃  
BTW, Miley Cyrus does absolutely nothing for me.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2018, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/44 "2018-03-18T21:18:15Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> These elderly nuns just wanted to live out their last days in their home. Couldn’t you have waited a few years to take possession?
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> > [@erysichthon](#):
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> > The nuns haven’t lived there since 2011. According to [this NPR story](https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/10/592623697/nun-involved-in-katy-perry-convent-lawsuit-collapses-and-dies-in-court), the archdiocese—not Katy Perry—forced them to move out.

> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I’m astonished the Church’s authority over the nuns could negate a private purchase they made in 1972. I didn’t think property rights worked like that.
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> > [@Lord\_Feldon](#):
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> > It sounds like the nuns didn’t purchase the property, the order did. And the order is owned by the church, not by the nuns.

These pairs of quotes are a perfect encapsulation of this thread, and of a considerable number of **aceplace57** ’s SDMB threads. The standard pattern of his OPs, especially on this sort of issue that mixes cultural and moral issues with questions of law and rights, is:

10 misunderstanding  
20 flawed analysis  
30 outrage  
40 goto 10

> [@Riemann](#):
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> You appear to have started from a conclusion, based on a preconception that nuns can do no wrong, and then attempted to shoehorn the story into your outraged narrative.

Again, SOP.

> [@aceplace57](#):
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> It’s too complicated for me to understand.

We should probably end the thread right about there.

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**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/45 "2018-03-19T00:57:30Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> What kind of meat do priests eat on Fridays?
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> Nun. (As if you didn’t know!) 😃

No meat? What do they eat? Lightbulbs?

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**Post date:** [March 19, 2018, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/46 "2018-03-19T01:32:17Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Is that a helicopter pad past the parking lot? The circle with the Maltese cross.

It does look like a helicopter pad, doesn’t it? If it is, it’s never been used for that, as far as I know.

Incidentally, the property next to that would-be helicopter pad is the house where the Mason “family” killed Leno and Rosemary Labianca.

In fact, the neighborhood has a lot of history. The Gelson supermarket, a few blocks from the “nunnery,” was the site of Disney’s Hyperion Studios, (yes, you can buy your cheese now at the place where Mickey Mouse was born, and where _Snow White_ was made). Around the corner is Marshall High, the go-to classic high school backdrop used in countless movies and TV shows, like _Grease, Pretty in Pink, Buffy, Wonder Years, Boy Meets World, Young Sheldon_, etc.

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**Author:** ![LurkerInNJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ed655f/32.png) [@LurkerInNJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkerInNJ)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/47 "2018-03-20T14:08:35Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> I agree the archdiocese could have handled this better.
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> This dispute seems to go back quite a few years.
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> Katy stepped into the middle of it.

Pretty much this, but pin the tail on Katy now because she is rich and famous.

I don’t even like her but I really don’t see how any of this is even remotely her fault.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/48 "2018-03-20T14:28:22Z")

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**[Moderating]**

**mhendo** and others, let’s remember not to personalize things in this forum. If you have a problem with the sorts of threads that **aceplace57** starts, or the way he argues in them, then take it to the Pit.

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**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/49 "2018-03-20T15:03:55Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> …  
> And KP’s new haircut makes her look like a 45 year-old soccer mom (but at least no one confuses her with Zooey Deschanel anymore).

There are times when I think she looks like a young Grace Slick, as well.

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/50 "2018-03-20T17:06:50Z")

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Katy Perry should totally have foreseen the occupants of the property she bought would sue the actual owner of the property, and then die in the courtroom while they supported the fraudster they tried to sell it to despite not being the owners just because they didn’t like her. Not because they didn’t want it sold _because they didn’t like Katy Perry_. And having foreseen all that she should obviously have known it would be misreported and that the easily duped would skim any article including any sort of fact and make it out like she was personally responsible for kicking them out.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2018, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/katy-perrys-pr-nightmare/810764/51 "2018-03-20T17:21:31Z")

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> [@aceplace57](#):
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> Who uses their money to bankrupt two nuns?

I would imagine anyone with money who suffered through Catholic school?

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