# kaylasdad99: "It is unacceptable for America to ever again have a Republican as President." Well? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 9, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254 "2016-11-09T19:18:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/1 "2016-11-09T19:18:45Z")
Despite several attempts over the years to discuss possible GOP presidents, **kaylasdad99** , you insisted instead that the prospect of such a thing was a paradox and “unacceptable,” and thereby implied it would never come to pass. Since we now seem on track to have it happen starting January 20th, 2017, I would like to revisit just precisely how you believe “unacceptable” will manifest itself. Some examples: (in response to a thread about a potential Romney win) > [@What if 538 is right, and Romney loses by 60+ electoral votes](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/what-if-538-is-right-and-romney-loses-by-60-electoral-votes/633316/23): > > You fail to address the paradox that arises from the fact that it is unacceptable for America to ever again have a Republican as President. (in response to a question about an idealized GOP candidate) > [@Another Liberals and the Non-GOP Right Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/another-liberals-and-the-non-gop-right-thread/609660/31): > > Having a (real-life, as opposed to fantasy-hypothetical) Republican EVER be elected to the Presidency again is completely unacceptable. (In response to my observation that when the Democrats are in the minority, they will “obstruct” and it won’t be criticized here) > [@Bricker](#): > > And I rather suspect that when the Democrats return to the minority, with a Republican in the White House and a Republican-controlled House, they will use it more than the GOP does now. > [@Fuck the fucking cowards in the Senate](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fuck-the-fucking-cowards-in-the-senate/648330/49): > > No. > > I’ve already pointed out that any future that contains a GOP POTUS is unacceptable. (And in response to a question about Hillary Clinton’s notional opponent) > [@Will Hillary Clinton be the next U.S. President?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-hillary-clinton-be-the-next-u-s-president/733557/10): > > Any Republican is already unacceptable, so there’s no “luck” involved in that. She takes the nomination, and it’s all over but the shouting. How does this “unacceptable” thing work, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/2 "2016-11-09T19:21:34Z")
Classy, **Bricker**. Really classy. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/3 "2016-11-09T19:27:57Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Classy, **Bricker**. Really classy. :rolleyes: I agree that it’s classy to insist that people be accountable for what they say here, yes. I suspect that you see it differently - that it was fine for a poster to simply insist that there was no point in even discussing a GOP president – that such a thing was a paradox. That, unchallengeable at the time, was fine? But now that there is a factual rebuttal, it’s not classy to offer it up in rebuttal? That definition of “classy,” I don’t agree with. Classy argument would have involved acknowledging that of course there was some future chance of a GOP president and that this was neither a paradox nor “unacceptable.” ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/4 "2016-11-09T19:30:34Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I agree that it’s classy to insist that people be accountable for what they say here, yes. Instead of “classy”, I suggest… “meaningless”. in the sense that one can insist all one wants on something, but one has no (indeed, _should_ have no) right to a response. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/5 "2016-11-09T19:32:33Z")
It’s still unacceptable. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/6 "2016-11-09T19:34:48Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > Despite several attempts over the years to discuss possible GOP presidents, **kaylasdad99** , you insisted instead that the prospect of such a thing was a paradox and “unacceptable,” and thereby implied it would never come to pass. > > Since we now seem on track to have it happen starting January 20th, 2017, I would like to revisit just precisely how you believe “unacceptable” will manifest itself. > > Some examples: > > (in response to a thread about a potential Romney win:) > > (in response to a question about an idealized GOP candidate:) > > (In response to my observation that when the Democrats are in the minority, they will “obstruct” and it won’t be criticized here:) > > (And in response to a question about Hillary Clinton’s notional opponent:) > > How does this “unacceptable” thing work, exactly? Where did he imply that it couldn’t happen? He said it was unacceptable. No where in your quoted comments does he say it would not be possible. I consider murder unacceptable. I do not consider murder to be impossible. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/7 "2016-11-09T19:35:58Z")
OK, so **kaylasdad99** doesn’t accept the results. This matters? A wise Doper once said that a gratuitous assertion can be gratuitously denied. It doesn’t need anything else. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/8 "2016-11-09T19:40:42Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > OK, so **kaylasdad99** doesn’t accept the results. This matters? Not to anyone other than kaylasdad99 himself, I assume, unless one is in the mood for gloating. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/9 "2016-11-09T19:43:50Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Where did he imply that it couldn’t happen? He said it was unacceptable. No where in your quoted comments does he say it would not be possible. To be fair to **Bricker** , that fact that I called it a paradox can be reasonably construed as an implication of impossibility. I hereby withdraw portions of any of my statements that characterized a Republican victory in a presidential election as “paradoxical.” It’s still unacceptable. And I consider it to be a crime against humanity. Perpetrated by individuals who actively hate America and what she purports to stand for. Especially in the current instance. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/10 "2016-11-09T19:52:30Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > It’s still unacceptable. And I consider it to be a crime against humanity. Perpetrated by individuals who actively hate America and what she purports to stand for. Especially in the current instance. I personally liken the current manifestation of the Republican Party to a desire to be punished for something, or at best a desire to punish others for something even if oneself suffers as much or worse in the process. Similar to religion, actually, but not the “care for the poor” kind of religion, the classic old-timey smite-'em-all religion. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/11 "2016-11-09T20:00:00Z")
> [@Clinton v Trump - The Stretch Run Thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/clinton-v-trump-the-stretch-run-thread/767277/2621): > > It kinda is, actually. Only, the fix isn’t in against Trump specifically, but against the GOP as a group. > > See, several years ago, I issued a decree that the Republican Party is forever forbidden from putting another of their candidates into the Oval Office. > [@8 days to go. Who will win the Presidency?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-days-to-go-who-will-win-the-presidency/770320/23): > > Don’t worry about it. I issued a decree that forbade the Republican from ever winning the presidency again. Even if you think it’s a make-believe decree, it’s still more powerful than a moldy ham sandwich. > > Incidentally, OP, you might want to consider proof-reading the next time you post a poll. You misspelled _Hillary Clinton, DUHH_. > [@Would Trump be allowed to take office if he wins the election?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/would-trump-be-allowed-to-take-office-if-he-wins-the-election/770292/57): > > Seriously, we need a forum for threads about subjects that are moot because **kaylasdad99** decreed that the situation is forbidden from coming up… > [@8 days to go. Who will win the Presidency?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/8-days-to-go-who-will-win-the-presidency/770320/24): > > P.S. This is why I hate non-public polls. Are the eleven people who think Trump will actively evil and America-hating, or are they just pessimists (who don’t believe in my decree)? Maybe your decrees weren’t issued forcefully enough. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/12 "2016-11-09T20:02:26Z")
I didn’t want people to think I was bossy… ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/13 "2016-11-09T20:06:31Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > I didn’t want people to think I was bossy… Why? Since I assume you lack a vagina, being bossy won’t hurt your political chances. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/14 "2016-11-09T20:11:31Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Classy, **Bricker**. Really classy. :rolleyes: Yeah, the classy move would have been to just use that OP to bump the [Schadenfreude thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=810000). 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/15 "2016-11-09T20:11:35Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > To be fair to **Bricker** , that fact that I called it a paradox can be reasonably construed as an implication of impossibility. > > I hereby withdraw portions of any of my statements that characterized a Republican victory in a presidential election as “paradoxical.” > > It’s still unacceptable. And I consider it to be a crime against humanity. Perpetrated by individuals who actively hate America and what she purports to stand for. Especially in the current instance. Eh, I take “paradox” to be absurdity or contradiction on the face of things, like the “twin paradox” and such. Not impossible, and not even necessarily contradictory, but going against the current knowledge. I mean, I do consider it a paradox that someone would complain about clinton’s honesty, and then vote for trump. It is obviously not impossible though, just unacceptable. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/16 "2016-11-09T20:11:50Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I agree that it’s classy to insist that people be accountable for what they say here, yes. How, exactly, do you think that you’re holding **kaylasdad99** to be accountable? > [@Bricker](#): > > I suspect that you see it differently - that it was fine for a poster to simply insist that there was no point in even discussing a GOP president – that such a thing was a paradox. That, unchallengeable at the time, was fine? But now that there is a factual rebuttal, it’s not classy to offer it up in rebuttal? You “suspect” that I see it differently? My use of the roll-eyes emoji wasn’t a blatant tipoff that my pst was sarcastic and not supportive of your OP? I would have thought your perceptions where much sharper than that, I admit. Next time, I’ll try and be a bit more explicit so as not to further confuse you. > [@Bricker](#): > > That definition of “classy,” I don’t agree with. Classy argument would have involved acknowledging that of course there was some future chance of a GOP president and that this was neither a paradox nor “unacceptable.” Nothing about your OP or your subsequent posts in this thread has been classy. Was that explicit enough, or should I elaborate? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/17 "2016-11-09T20:20:44Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Where did he imply that it couldn’t happen? He said it was unacceptable. No where in your quoted comments does he say it would not be possible. > > I consider murder unacceptable. I do not consider murder to be impossible. Do you consider the discussion of a potential murder to be a “paradox?” ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/18 "2016-11-09T20:23:43Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > It’s still unacceptable. And just how does that unacceptability manifest itself? What are the aspects that make it paradoxical, in light of the fact that it’s happening – something that is usually mutually exclusive of a paradox? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/19 "2016-11-09T20:25:18Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > Nothing about your OP or your subsequent posts in this thread has been classy. Was that explicit enough, or should I elaborate? Would it be terribly upsetting for you to learn that if I were to assemble a list of people from whom I sought advice on aspects of acting classy, your name would not be found near the top? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254/20 "2016-11-09T20:28:00Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Eh, I take “paradox” to be absurdity or contradiction on the face of things, like the “twin paradox” and such. Not impossible, and not even necessarily contradictory, but going against the current knowledge. > > I mean, I do consider it a paradox that someone would complain about clinton’s honesty, and then vote for trump. It is obviously not impossible though, just unacceptable. How about the decrees? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kaylasdad99-it-is-unacceptable-for-america-to-ever-again-have-a-republican-as-president-well/771254.md?page=2)