# Keira Knightly: disgustingly thin **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 30, 2007, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481 "2007-08-30T10:54:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/61 "2007-08-31T20:38:46Z")
> [@](#): > > The audience, of course. Reread this thread and notice how many guys think she is hot, or at least attractive. And that is among the smartest, hippest people on the planet; imagine the tastes of the unwashed masses. To clarify: Keira Knightly is hot, at least some of the time. However, most women would not look hot, if they were Keira’s weight. Ideal weight varies from person to person, and Keira’s ideal weight happens to be rather less than that of most people. The proper way to emulate Keira Knightly (or indeed, any attractive person) would be to find out what one’s own ideal weight is, and then try to reach or stay at that weight. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/62 "2007-08-31T22:37:01Z")
You want hot? [Here’s hot](http://www.style.com/slideshows/parties/022607OSCA/24m.jpg), with a real woman’s body and a [lived-in real-woman attractive face](http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/mirrenDM_468x388.jpg) and a [classy elegance](http://www.style.com/slideshows/parties/011607GGLB/30m.jpg) that puts every airhead plastic-surgeried stick-figure starlet in Hollywood to shame. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2007, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/63 "2007-08-31T22:47:33Z")
Hm, I’m not sure that I would quite say that she’s hot, but she is certainly still stunning. I’m not sure what the example is supposed to prove, though, since (so far as I know) there’s no law proclaiming that it’s only possible for one woman in the world to be attractive. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/64 "2007-09-01T01:08:21Z")
My point is, we’re awash in young women who seem more or less all cookie-cutter in their beauty, of a hotness that in many cases will wither with age; young women who it seems live in dread of an extra pound or a less than perfect face and body. Then there’s Helen, who looks damned fine despite a figure that, while still lovely, is clearly not that of a 20-something; who’s never felt the need to reshape that distinctive nose. She’s comfortable with who she is, imperfections and all, and to me that’s part of what makes her IMO attractive. I dunno about you, but I get tired of all the public beauties who seem essentially interchangeable. Serena Williams, as someone else posted, is a fine-looking woman and wicked hot, but she’s not at all a conventional beauty. Seems to me that part of the impetus pushing toward anorexia in woman like Keira is the incessant pressure to fit into a ridiculously narrow set of criteria for physical attractiveness. Maybe a whole lot of those poor skinny waifs would actually be able to chow down and find a healthier weight level if the criteria were widened. Just one example (can’t find photos to illustrate it): I thought Dolly Parton looked a lot better before she lost all that weight. ---
**Author:** ![shamrock227](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@shamrock227](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shamrock227)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/65 "2007-09-01T01:30:07Z")
[QUOTE=Delly] I saw those pictures during the week and thought she looked better then she had done for a while, certainly better then she did at the POTC permiere in London last year when she wore [this](http://english.cri.cn/mmsource/images/2006/07/04/Pirates-Caribbean-female2.jpg) dress. [/QUOTE] Let’s be fair _no one_ would look good in that abomination of a dress. Keira is very thin, to be sure, but she doesn’t look _unhealthy_ at all. Her skin looks glowing, her eyes are bright, her arms don’t have that bony look to them, she doesn’t have that hollowed out cheeks look. Compare her to those photos of Renee Zellweger above or those photos of [Nicole Ritchie](http://nrichie.fan-sites.org/gallery/displayimage.php?album=78&pos=0) on the beach. They both not only appear painfully thin, they are sickly looking. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/66 "2007-09-01T01:35:37Z")
If anyone had started a thread entitled “Famous person: Disgustingly Fat” there would’ve been outrage at the audacity of such an opinion. But this thread gets a lot of people agreeing and bringing out the old “I prefer a woman with meat on her bones” cries. Will you please please please stop complaining about celebrities weight? Who gives a flying fuck, what does it matter to you? This constant obsession over things from the public is what causes them to have these constant battles with their weight, and you’re all just perpetuating it. ---
**Author:** ![Rubystreak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Rubystreak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rubystreak)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/67 "2007-09-01T01:46:39Z")
OK, now it’s just freaking me out-- why does her head look so damn big in all those pictures? Not just one pic, from a bad angle-- all of Diosa’s links, the PotC dress photo, all of them make her look like a bobblehead. I’ve seen almost all of her movies and never noticed this about her before. It might be because she’s so thin, but I’m not sure. It’s scary looking. Are there really people whose heads are that out of proportion to their bodies IRL? Seriously. ---
**Author:** ![UntouchedTakeaway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d78d45/32.png) [@UntouchedTakeaway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UntouchedTakeaway)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/68 "2007-09-01T01:48:50Z")
As a silver-haired woman of certain years, I thank you for the glimmer of hope that all is not lost 😃 VCNJ~ [QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] You want hot? [Here’s hot](http://www.style.com/slideshows/parties/022607OSCA/24m.jpg), with a real woman’s body and a [lived-in real-woman attractive face](http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/mirrenDM_468x388.jpg) and a [classy elegance](http://www.style.com/slideshows/parties/011607GGLB/30m.jpg) that puts every airhead plastic-surgeried stick-figure starlet in Hollywood to shame. [/QUOTE] ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/69 "2007-09-01T02:32:54Z")
[QUOTE=GuanoLad] If anyone had started a thread entitled “Famous person: Disgustingly Fat” there would’ve been outrage at the audacity of such an opinion. [/quote] Maybe. Maybe not. It might help if there were any famous people left who are disgustingly fat. > [@](#): > > Will you please please please stop complaining about celebrities weight? No, probably not. > [@](#): > > Who gives a flying fuck, what does it matter to you? It matters to me because I have goddaughters who love PotC and who just this week were bemoaning the fact that Keira is “so beautiful and thin” and they’re fat and gross. For the record, neither of them weighs 100 pounds soaking wet and they’re both teenagers. Yeah, this matters to me. > [@](#): > > This constant obsession over things from the public is what causes them to have these constant battles with their weight, and you’re all just perpetuating it. No, I think the constant “The casting director really likes you, but the producer wants you to drop 20 pounds before shooting starts,” probably has more to do with it. I agree with you that picking on naturally thin people for being thin is mean. I said as much in my first post. But even if Keira isn’t trying at all to be thin (which I really suspect she’s not), it’s still not a healthy weight. And there are indeed plenty of actors who are starving themselves and doing dangerous drugs to look like her when it is unhealthy for them. Become a public figure, and your figure becomes public. 'Sides, if you don’t want to get snarked at for being skeletal, don’t wear dresses to public events with lots of cameras that make you look skeletal. Once again, I mention Ms. Hepburn, who was naturally very thin, but always looked fabulous because we didn’t have to look at her bones. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/70 "2007-09-01T02:33:39Z")
[QUOTE=Veuve\_ClicquotNJ] As a silver-haired woman of certain years, I thank you for the glimmer of hope that all is not lost 😃 VCNJ~ [/QUOTE] Oh, yeh. Even the Go Fug Yourself harpies love her. [To wit.](http://gofugyourself.typepad.com/go_fug_yourself/2006/10/well_played_hel.html) [And again.](http://gofugyourself.typepad.com/go_fug_yourself/2007/05/well_played_hel.html) ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/71 "2007-09-01T02:45:51Z")
[QUOTE=EddyTeddyFreddy] You want hot? [Here’s hot](http://www.style.com/slideshows/parties/022607OSCA/24m.jpg), with a real woman’s body and a [lived-in real-woman attractive face](http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/07_01/mirrenDM_468x388.jpg) and a [classy elegance](http://www.style.com/slideshows/parties/011607GGLB/30m.jpg) that puts every airhead plastic-surgeried stick-figure starlet in Hollywood to shame. [/QUOTE] I presume you’ve seen her in the remake of _The Roman Spring of Mrs. Stone_. If not, you may want to treat yourself. It damn sure made a fan of me. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/72 "2007-09-01T02:50:07Z")
Truly, this thread would not have been complete without a post from **Starving Artist**. Thank you! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/73 "2007-09-01T03:24:18Z")
[QUOTE=GuanoLad] This constant obsession over things from the public is what causes them to have these constant battles with their weight, and you’re all just perpetuating it. [/QUOTE] I think just the opposite. There _is_ such thing as a healthy weight. Nobody needs to tell a severely overweight person that they need to lose weight in order to be healthier. They know that already. Some of them even decide to go on such programs as Celebrity fit Club. They acknowledge that they need to drop the weight, and are supported in their endeavors to lose it. Unhealthy thinness is an entirely different animal. IANAD so I won’t speculate at all about what does and does not constitute anorexia, nor will I make assumptions about how it can be cured. If, however, an actress gets skinny to an unhealthy extreme just because she thinks that’s what the public and the movie studios want, there is a problem. The studios need to start casting people that promote somewhat healthy body images. Actresses need to know that being slim is ok, but being way too skinny is not something that people want to see, nor is it healthy. I agree that KK is naturally thin, but I’m just not buying the notion that she isn’t trying to stay as thin as possible. Most girls couldn’t achieve her figure without seriously damaging their bodies. That isn’t the kind of role model that young girls need. Several of the women that have dropped too much weight used to be considered (insert euphemism for slightly overweight) before hand. Renee Zellweger is a prime example, Kate Winslet was teased about her weight in Titanic, and then she dropped a lot. I haven’t really seen any pics of her where she looks grossly underweight though. Callista Flockheart and Nicole Ritchie baffle me, there’s no way that they were called fat by the media once they were in the public eye, yet they choose or chose to also get unhealthily thin. I’d much rather hear a teenage girl say “Eww, KK is waay too skinny” than “Oooh I wish I wasn’t so fat, I wanna look like her”. If making it known that the public finds overly-skinny people unattractive helps to eliminate some of the eating disorder problems young girls face, then I see no reason not to make my opinion known. I’m sure that whole post could have been worded better, but it wasn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Waenara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@Waenara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waenara)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/74 "2007-09-01T04:52:12Z")
[QUOTE=dnooman] Callista Flockheart and Nicole Ritchie baffle me, there’s no way that they were called fat by the media once they were in the public eye, yet they choose or chose to also get unhealthily thin. [/QUOTE] I don’t have a cite, but I’m pretty sure that I remember people in the media calling Nicole Ritchie fat or heavy (especially in comparison to her friend Paris) when she first became famous. She drastically lost weight _after_ (because?) she was already in the public eye. [Nicole before](http://www.stimme.de/storage/pic/eigenebilder/verschiedenes/446536_Nicole-Richie-1.gif) [Promo pictures](http://gothamist.com/images/2003_12_simplenicole.jpg) [for the first season](http://imagesource.allposters.com/images/pic/SCR/990A~Simple-Life-Posters.jpg) of _Simple Life_ Before and after comparisons: [One](http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i304/winsol2000/nicole_8blog_2.jpg)[Two](http://www.americangirl.co.uk/images/nicole_richie13_300.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![dnooman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/839c29/32.png) [@dnooman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dnooman)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/75 "2007-09-01T05:04:01Z")
[QUOTE=Waenara] I don’t have a cite, but I’m pretty sure that I remember people in the media calling Nicole Ritchie fat or heavy (especially in comparison to her friend Paris) when she first became famous. She drastically lost weight _after_ (because?) she was already in the public eye. [Nicole before](http://www.stimme.de/storage/pic/eigenebilder/verschiedenes/446536_Nicole-Richie-1.gif) [Promo pictures](http://gothamist.com/images/2003_12_simplenicole.jpg) [for the first season](http://imagesource.allposters.com/images/pic/SCR/990A~Simple-Life-Posters.jpg) of _Simple Life_ Before and after comparisons: [One](http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i304/winsol2000/nicole_8blog_2.jpg)[Two](http://www.americangirl.co.uk/images/nicole_richie13_300.jpg) [/QUOTE] Not one of those pictures of her looked “fat” to me. If she was called fat by the media because of any of those before pics, it only serves to emphasize the ridiculous pressure being put on celebrity females to be always thinner. ---
**Author:** ![DiosaBellissima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a8b319/32.png) [@DiosaBellissima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DiosaBellissima)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/76 "2007-09-01T05:04:23Z")
Nicole claims she chunked up a bit when she went to rehab for her crack (or whatever she was on) addiction, but was always naturally thing. Thing is, when Paris Hilton’s storage locker was auctioned off, there were TONS of pictures of younger Nicole and while she was never what I’d consider fat (probably never bigger than a size 8-10, she’s really, really short), she was definitely always thick. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/77 "2007-09-01T06:41:10Z")
[QUOTE=WhyNot] Truly, this thread would not have been complete without a post from **Starving Artist**. Thank you! 😃 [/QUOTE] No, thank you. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/78 "2007-09-01T13:35:51Z")
Scroll down the link to the before-and-after pictures of the King Arthur poster. We can see her real shape and the shape the studio gave her. The girl’s always been skinny, much like Gwyneth Paltrow. I think this is just her frame. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [September 1, 2007, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/79 "2007-09-01T13:48:51Z")
[QUOTE=dnooman] Most girls couldn’t achieve [Keira Knightley’s] figure without seriously damaging their bodies. That isn’t the kind of role model that young girls need. [/QUOTE] George Carlin on role models: “If your kid needs a role model and you ain’t it, you’re both fucked.” ---
**Author:** ![Fiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e274bd/32.png) [@Fiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiver)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2007, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481/80 "2007-09-05T15:33:29Z")
[QUOTE=Chronos] Hm, I’m not sure that I would quite say that she’s hot, but she is certainly still stunning. [/QUOTE] Stunning, but not hot? I don’t understand the distinction. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keira-knightly-disgustingly-thin/417481.md?page=5)