# Keith Olbermann should kill himself **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 17, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756 "2009-05-17T16:36:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/261 "2009-05-22T17:53:33Z")
My 2 favorite things about this thread were the initial trolling from the op and the pile on that made **SA** disappear. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/262 "2009-05-22T18:00:49Z")
No, _work_ made **SA** disappear. And it’s about to do so again. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/263 "2009-05-22T18:05:14Z")
Curses! ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/264 "2009-05-22T23:46:05Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > A guy who will kick you in the nuts for your own good, not just because he hates you… That’s pretty Zeny of them. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/265 "2009-05-22T23:51:20Z")
> [@RedFury](#): > > That’s pretty Zeny of them. Oh they are zaney all right. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/266 "2009-05-23T00:14:59Z")
OK, work makes him disappear…all right, so if all of us with jobs call in and volunteer to work a shift on Saturday, for free or whatever it takes, and maybe if a thousand of us are _all_ working at the same time… ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/267 "2009-05-23T02:48:10Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > OK, work makes him disappear… I know people like that, whenever there’s something that needs to be done, they vanish. Poof. Maybe it’s some sort of magical power. ---
**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/268 "2009-05-23T03:17:26Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > Oh they are zaney all right. Indeed, Buddhist monks should be taking lessons. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/269 "2009-05-23T11:57:08Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > BWAHAHAHA! There’s a mantra for the left if I ever heard one. > > Still, you should recognize that physical labor alone is not what I’m referring to when I talk about hard work. I’m talking about study, about looking for and recognizing opportunity, taking risk, working 80 to 100 hours a week in the beginning…you know, the types of things that people who earn wealth often do. And of course mental work is harder than physical work, so that gets taken into account too. So every person who ever engaged in hard work, either physical or mental, ultimately achieved wealth in proportion to their labor? No other factor was involved, just hard work? ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/270 "2009-05-23T16:45:50Z")
I watch Olbermann and, generally, agree with his positions. However, I must admit that I’ve grown a bit tired of his special comments. I guess, for me, they’d be a little more tolerable if he could control his verbal stumbling a bit better. I tend to get so caught up in his mispronunciations and subsequent corrections, and anticipation of his next one, that my focus on the content of his presentation begins to suffer, and I feel all but spent when he’s finally done. Having said all that, however, his WTF segment from the last two nights have, IMO, been great. And, in the vernacular of the kids today, Keith owned Hannity at the end of last night’s segment (or is that pwned?), totally dismissing him. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/271 "2009-05-23T16:53:12Z")
‘Owned’ and ‘pwned’ are both acceptable. Also, note that ‘pwned’ is pronounced like ‘owned’ with a ‘p’ before the ‘o’. None of this ‘pooned’ or trying to pronounce the w. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_jeffrey_lebowski/32/215_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Jeffrey\_Lebowski](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Jeffrey_Lebowski)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/272 "2009-05-23T18:15:41Z")
Has anyone here seen Godot? I was told to wait right here, by this tree, and he would be along…and that he would be passing by on Saturday, and today’s Saturday! ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/273 "2009-05-23T18:59:46Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > None of this ‘pooned’ or trying to pronounce the w. Word, brutha. My roommate actually says pwned in conversation and pronounces it like pooned. It’s all I can do to avoid starting _that_ fight. ---
**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/274 "2009-05-23T19:13:28Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > So every person who ever engaged in hard work, either physical or mental, ultimately achieved wealth in proportion to their labor? No other factor was involved, just hard work? Unless the Liberal Media sabotaged them. Or the government sabotaged them. Or any other right-wing bugaboo sabotaged them. Basically, if you ignore any and all inconvenient exceptions to the rule…yes. -Joe ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/275 "2009-05-23T20:05:26Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > So every person who ever engaged in hard work, either physical or mental, ultimately achieved wealth in proportion to their labor? No other factor was involved, just hard work? It’s amazing to me the amount of explication that has to go on around here, on the smartest message board on the planet. Of course hard work alone won’t bring about a wealthy or comfortable lifestyle. No matter how hard you work flipping burgers, if you seek only to do that you will not become more affluent. On the other hand, if you engage in the kind of hard work that I described above where you save your money, educate yourself, look for opportunity, take risks, work long and hard for however long it takes, and persevere, your chances of getting ahead are pretty good. I think you know perfectly well that has not been my contention that sheer physical labor is enough to produce affluence, and that my real contention - which you and your like-minded cronies are loathe to admit - is that no one’s wealth is keeping anyone else from getting ahead according to their own ability and willingness to work for it. And now I have to go get some tacos (real Mexican tacos, not that Taco Bell crap). And after that I might visit some friends. Or I might go for a drive. Or read a book. Who knows? Anyway, I’m out for a while. Y’all have a good day now, y’hear? ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/276 "2009-05-23T20:14:06Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > And now I have to go get some tacos (real Mexican tacos, not that Taco Bell crap). And after that I might visit some friends. Or I might go for a drive. Or read a book. Who knows? Anyway, I’m out for a while. Y’all have a good day now, y’hear? Well, you better get the real ones, the “franchise” ones are crap. Some day I will expound on the family owned “hole in the wall” a block away from my place. Heaven. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/277 "2009-05-23T20:15:49Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > My **actual** opinion, which is merely a recognition of an obvious fact, is that revenue from legally enacted taxes DOES belong to the government. Anything that you’ve earned, after taxes, is all yours. Of course the _revenue_ from taxes belongs to the government, but the underlying property, DOES NOT. If I have $10M mansion, does the government own it because it’s value is greater than the current estate tax exemption? Do they file a tax lein against every property that’s worth more than $XX Million? No, they don’t. Because they don’t own it, and have no legal claim against it, not until said taxes are actually due and payable. The equation does not change if it’s my salary or other income. It is mine. If my neighbor were to take any of it for his use, it would be conversion, aka theft. If the government does it, under penalty of law, and at gunpoint, it’s called taxes. It’s still theft, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/278 "2009-05-23T20:26:59Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Word, brutha. My roommate actually says pwned in conversation and pronounces it like pooned. It’s all I can do to avoid starting _that_ fight. {shrugs} Both poned and pooned sound dumb to me, so what do I know? Actually, pooned sounds like a brag from a girl about a sexual conquest, and therefore doubly wierd: “Hey Cassie, guess what?” “What?” “I totally pooned Mike last night.” “No…Way” “Way. And I was like 'I hope it was good ‘cause you can’t come back for seconds.’” [high five] 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_Stream](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/c2a13f/32.png) [@Carol\_Stream](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_Stream)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/279 "2009-05-23T20:39:33Z")
> [@Captain\_Carrot](#): > > ‘Owned’ and ‘pwned’ are both acceptable. Also, note that ‘pwned’ is pronounced like ‘owned’ with a ‘p’ before the ‘o’. None of this ‘pooned’ or trying to pronounce the w. Let me up. So, now we’ve moved from making up juvenile, stupid, internet terms, to making up pronounciations for said juvenile, stupid, internet terms? Isn’t that just…precious. The Crisis Continues. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2009, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756/280 "2009-05-23T20:39:43Z")
> [@Starving\_Artist](#): > > On the other hand, if you engage in the kind of hard work that I described above where you save your money, educate yourself, look for opportunity, take risks, work long and hard for however long it takes, and persevere, **your chances of getting ahead are pretty good**. [bolding mine] So there is a non-zero amount of chance involved, even when somebody does it your way. Sounds like you just agreed with **askeptic,** when he said > [@askeptic](#): > > **And I am not stupid enough to think hard work is enough.** So you are saying the conservative mantra is pretty much the same as the liberal mantra. So what are you bwahahahing about? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/keith-olbermann-should-kill-himself/496756.md?page=15)