# Kel Varnsen - Latex Division, you scare the living fuck outta me. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 12, 2004, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486 "2004-12-12T19:54:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/21 "2004-12-12T22:16:46Z")
Oh so you don’t think there is anything wrong with a woman deciding to have a baby with an abusive man? You’re saying it a perfectly valid decision? And I am not a fundie. ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/22 "2004-12-12T22:18:32Z")
> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#): > > Oh so you don’t think there is anything wrong with a woman deciding to have a baby with an abusive man? You’re saying it a perfectly valid decision? > > And I am not a fundie. No, I’m saying you’re a judgemental prick who thinks religion is the answer to everything. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/23 "2004-12-12T22:22:04Z")
> [@](#): > > And I am not a fundie. Well, in the crying baby thread, you are persistently holding a position that is congruent with a limited number of Fundamentalist Christians (and at odds with every other Christian or Jewish denomination). Therefore, either you are a (particular brand of) Fundamentalist or you are simply playing a roll in order to yank the chains of the actual parents posting to the thread. In the first case you would qualify for the term “fundie.” In the second case you would qualify for the term “troll.” Your choice. ---
**Author:** ![Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/24 "2004-12-12T22:22:28Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > No, I’m saying you’re a judgemental prick who thinks religion is the answer to everything. Then you are wrong. Religion offers very few answers for fixing a stove or deciding on how to style your hair or the brand of tootpaste to use, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Liz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/liz/32/17737_2.png) [@Liz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liz)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/25 "2004-12-12T22:23:04Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > Which totally reinforces my stance on fundamentalists. It’s not the belief structure. It’s the sanctimonious self righteous bullshit attitude and the attempts to force those belief structures on every other person on the planet that gets right up my nose and makes me want to chain them to a chair and lock them in a room and force them to watch Dogma a few thousand times. _deep breath_… > …Okay, I’m better now. Mkay, read the thread. If he was indeed serious, my defense of him is retracted. The stuff being said in that thread is fucking insane, **Kel** , and I think you know it. I still wonder if he doesn’t lack good written communication abilities [I do, so I know how it is], or if perhaps English isn’t his first language. His posts seem very stilted to me, for some reason. If that is the case, however, he seriously needs to think a little more before posting. He’s coming across as absolutely barking nuts in the thread you cited. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/26 "2004-12-12T22:24:28Z")
I’m not sure who **The Milkman** is calling a troll. Was he quoting you and telling you not to feed me or was he pointing out your scary-assed post and saying “Don’t feed that, people!” Oh and I see that **Mr. Division** is not a fundie. He’s just a regular old crazy person advocating beating 10 month olds because he read it in the Bible. See? That make much more sense. No, wait a minute. That makes him even more scary. P.S. How would you know if a clown had nipple rings underneath all that clown frippery? ---
**Author:** ![Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/27 "2004-12-12T22:24:48Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > Well, in the crying baby thread, you are persistently holding a position that is congruent with a limited number of Fundamentalist Christians (and at odds with every other Christian or Jewish denomination). Therefore, either you are a (particular brand of) Fundamentalist or you are simply playing a roll in order to yank the chains of the actual parents posting to the thread. > In the first case you would qualify for the term “fundie.” > In the second case you would qualify for the term “troll.” > > Your choice. Fundies don’t believe in evolution. I do. Funides don’t believe a woman should be able to have an abortion. I do. Etc. ---
**Author:** ![Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/28 "2004-12-12T22:26:09Z")
> [@](#): > > P.S. How would you know if a clown had nipple rings underneath all that clown frippery? I was assuming the clown would be topless or something. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/29 "2004-12-12T22:26:41Z")
> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#): > > Oh so you don’t think there is anything wrong with a woman deciding to have a baby with an abusive man? You’re saying it a perfectly valid decision? > > And I am not a fundie. Have you ever considered that people become violent _after_ the fact? Sometimes you enter a relationship in good faith, on the same page and agree to mutuality in all respects. Then things change and one of you can end up in hell while your partner endangers your children. Instead of blaming the victim, tis better to get the hell out of dodge and let the abuser deal with their own problems. You protect your babies. ---
**Author:** ![Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/30 "2004-12-12T22:29:01Z")
> [@faithfool](#): > > Have you ever considered that people become violent _after_ the fact? Sometimes you enter a relationship in good faith, on the same page and agree to mutuality in all respects. Then things change and one of you can end up in hell while your partner endangers your children. Instead of blaming the victim, tis better to get the hell out of dodge and let the abuser deal with their own problems. You protect your babies. Yeah because so many men who become abusive show no signs of the futute abuse during a courting of proper duration. ---
**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/31 "2004-12-12T22:30:20Z")
> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#): > > Yeah because so many men who become abusive show no signs of the futute abuse during a courting of proper duration. Perhaps you haven’t dated many men? ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/32 "2004-12-12T22:35:05Z")
> [@Maureen](#): > > No, I’m saying you’re a judgemental prick who thinks religion is the answer to everything. This is a lot of people, they scare me more! ---
**Author:** ![Earthworm\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f07891/32.png) [@Earthworm\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earthworm_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/33 "2004-12-12T23:03:00Z")
> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#): > > …a courting of proper duration. Do tell - what is the “proper duration”? ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/34 "2004-12-12T23:35:20Z")
Whatever **Kel** tells you it is, dammit! Remember that scene in Se7en, when Brad Pitt has a conversation with the bad guy about knowing he’s crazy? Yep, that’s why I don’t argue with crazy people anymore. And **Kel** ’s some wicked kind of crazy. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/35 "2004-12-12T23:47:06Z")
> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#): > > Oh so you don’t think there is anything wrong with a woman deciding to have a baby with an abusive man? You’re saying it a perfectly valid decision? > > And I am not a fundie. Apart from the fact that abusers may only become abusers later, as many have pointed out to you, have is ever occured to you that pregnancy may not actually be the intended outcome for the abused woman. That maybe the sex might not actually be 100% consensual? ---
**Author:** ![Syntropy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/65b543/32.png) [@Syntropy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Syntropy)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/36 "2004-12-12T23:49:32Z")
Why, **villa** , I’m surprised at you. Of course it’s consensual. They’re married. It’s a woman’s duty to submit to her husband. She married him, so it really doesn’t matter if she says she doesn’t want it. ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2004, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/37 "2004-12-12T23:55:47Z")
Yeah, stupid of me not to have seen that. And if they aren’t married, I am sure it is her fault for tempting him into the sin of premarital sex, the little slut. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/38 "2004-12-13T00:29:09Z")
> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#): > > Yeah because so many men who become abusive show no signs of the future abuse during a courting of proper duration. (edited for the spelling error in “future”) Of course they don’t. They are on their best behavior. How the hell else are they going to get someone else into the lion’s den? Too bad your statement was meant to be sarcastic, because it is actually true. ---
**Author:** ![Maendosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ebca7d/32.png) [@Maendosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maendosa)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/39 "2004-12-13T00:40:52Z")
> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#): > > Fundies don’t believe in evolution. I do. Funides don’t believe a woman should be able to have an abortion. I do. Etc. Ahhh, so you’re just sexist then. ---
**Author:** ![Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2004, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kel-varnsen-latex-division-you-scare-the-living-fuck-outta-me/279486/40 "2004-12-13T00:44:29Z")
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