# Kellyanne Conway should be fired? **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [June 13, 2019, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485 "2019-06-13T17:12:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/1 "2019-06-13T17:12:42Z")
According to US special counsel office. (the office is not related to Mueller) > **[Federal office says Kellyanne Conway should be removed from government | CNN...](https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/13/politics/kellyanne-conway-office-of-special-counsel-hatch-act/index.html)** > > A federal agency is recommending that White House adviser Kellyanne Conway be removed from federal service, saying she violated the Hatch Act on numerous occasions. There is zero chance Trump will fire her so this is pretty much a waste of time. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/2 "2019-06-13T17:15:29Z")
Sometimes just getting things out there on the record is the best you can do. At least then future generations will know that we weren’t all morons. ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/3 "2019-06-13T17:19:44Z")
Not a waste of time, depending on how you look at it. The point is, she _should_ be fired. This tactic of the Trump “administration” to politicize everything, to attribute partisan motives to all his wrongdoing, is always his first line of defense. It is so ubiquitous that I don’t think most Americans even notice it anymore. He basically has persuaded the citizenry that as president, it’s perfectly ok to represent only the people who support you – not the entire population of the US. The whole purpose of the Hatch Act is to prevent this. Many of Trump’s advisors engage in violations of it daily, and those violations should be pointed out every single day – irrespective of whether Trump does the right thing and acts on them. Which, as you point out, he will not. They are violations nonetheless. Do you care? I hope you do. ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/4 "2019-06-13T17:23:45Z")
Trump appointed the guy who heads that office , so that guy will probably be fired instead of Conway ---
**Author:** ![AlsoNamedBort](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alsonamedbort/32/3213_2.png) [@AlsoNamedBort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AlsoNamedBort)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/5 "2019-06-13T17:30:44Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > According to US special counsel office. (the office is not related to Mueller) Incoming tweet where Trump blame Mueller for this… ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/6 "2019-06-13T17:39:21Z")
She should be impeached. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/7 "2019-06-13T17:49:58Z")
Come the revolution, comrades… ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/8 "2019-06-13T18:07:41Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > Not a waste of time, depending on how you look at it. > > The point is, she _should_ be fired. > > This tactic of the Trump “administration” to politicize everything, to attribute partisan motives to all his wrongdoing, is always his first line of defense. It is so ubiquitous that I don’t think most Americans even notice it anymore. He basically has persuaded the citizenry that as president, it’s perfectly ok to represent only the people who support you – not the entire population of the US. > > The whole purpose of the Hatch Act is to prevent this. Many of Trump’s advisors engage in violations of it daily, and those violations should be pointed out every single day – irrespective of whether Trump does the right thing and acts on them. Which, as you point out, he will not. They are violations nonetheless. > > Do you care? I hope you do. Yeah its good to remind people now and again that this sort of shit is not OK. Also that spending large portions of a speech commemorating, say, the boy scouts attacking your political opponents should not be viewed as normal. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/9 "2019-06-13T18:28:39Z")
> [@](#): > > Quoth **Bijou Drains** : > > There is zero chance Trump will fire her… There’s zero chance he’ll fire her _for the right reasons_. But just look at the turnover in his administration. Nobody lasts long. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/10 "2019-06-13T21:18:13Z")
Speaking of which,[Sarah Huckabee Sanders is out at the end of the month](https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/13/sarah-huckabee-sanders-is-leaving-the-white-house-at-the-end-of-the-month-trump-says.html). We should have a ‘death pool’ for persons in the Trump Administration. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2019, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/11 "2019-06-13T21:30:18Z")
This is an unpresidented development. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/12 "2019-06-14T14:59:41Z")
Perhaps Ms. Conway should make a statement about how there’s no controlling legal authority. ---
**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/13 "2019-06-14T15:39:58Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > There’s zero chance he’ll fire her _for the right reasons_. But just look at the turnover in his administration. Nobody lasts long. Except, ya know, the subject of this thread who has been with him since he won the nomination. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/14 "2019-06-14T16:05:16Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Perhaps Ms. Conway should make a statement about how there’s no controlling legal authority. Does the Hatch Act now include an exemption for White House employees? ---
**Author:** ![Airbeck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/airbeck/32/6574_2.png) [@Airbeck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airbeck)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/15 "2019-06-14T16:58:16Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Perhaps Ms. Conway should make a statement about how there’s no controlling legal authority. One thing about the Trump administration is that we can forever put to rest the claim that the GOP is the party of law and order. That is deader than a doornail now. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/16 "2019-06-14T17:08:16Z")
Nonsense… it’s the party of what _they say today_ is law and order\*. \*Subject to change without prior notice. All previous laws are orders are null and void. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/17 "2019-06-14T17:43:15Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > Perhaps Ms. Conway should make a statement about how there’s no controlling legal authority. Don’t worry, the white house already did. > **[full.pdf](https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/1168-pac-osc-06-11-2019-letter/11f2a2d73d1e14d197f3/optimized/full.pdf)** > > 1384.90 KB It’s bullshit (obviously) but it’s enough for plausible deniability - at least for those truly motivated to deny. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/18 "2019-06-14T17:51:28Z")
[The guy we hired to make sure our laws are enforced says he won’t do anything to enforce our laws.](https://apnews.com/b33ca959408b406b8b86f63e470c7385) ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/19 "2019-06-14T18:15:38Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Don’t worry, the white house already did. > > [https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/1168-pac-osc-06-11-2019-letter/11f2a2d73d1e14d197f3/optimized/full.pdf](https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/1168-pac-osc-06-11-2019-letter/11f2a2d73d1e14d197f3/optimized/full.pdf) > > It’s bullshit (obviously) but it’s enough for plausible deniability - at least for those truly motivated to deny. 11 page response? I figured it would just be “F\*\*k you, we don’t care” ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2019, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485/20 "2019-06-14T19:05:59Z")
Legal briefs are sometimes unnecessarily prolix, but I think that’s what the letter boils down to. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kellyanne-conway-should-be-fired/835485.md?page=2)