# Ken Ham blames "Ark Encounter" failure on atheists

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 21, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575 "2017-06-21T23:28:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/1 "2017-06-21T23:28:08Z")

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I think the blame is misplaced. He should look in the mirror first of all.

Among other things, it was not near any other big tourist attractions, it costs $40 a person or so to get into, and even most Christians don’t believe in the concept anyway.

:smack:

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/2 "2017-06-21T23:30:56Z")

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It’s not our fault that he didn’t include a section for hookers and blow.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/3 "2017-06-21T23:31:21Z")

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I blame Jesus.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/4 "2017-06-21T23:36:52Z")

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I’ve never heard of this before; can I still be responsible for his park’s failure? I want to feel like I’ve contributed something good to society.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/5 "2017-06-21T23:39:44Z")

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> [@begbert2](#):
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> I’ve never heard of this before; can I still be responsible for his park’s failure? I want to feel like I’ve contributed something good to society.

[I’m going to allow this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8sFE8_usN0)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/6 "2017-06-21T23:41:02Z")

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So, wait… The reason why it’s a failure is because atheists are lying and saying that it’s a failure? Point out the lie for me, please?

And $40 for a ticket, really? Who pays that much to see a museum?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/7 "2017-06-21T23:41:29Z")

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I’m claiming full credit for this before anyone else tries to grab the glory. :d

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21825_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/8 "2017-06-21T23:44:20Z")

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Well, I’m not an atheist, and I knew from the start that his silly project was going to be a disaster. Do I get to share the blame?

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/9 "2017-06-21T23:45:03Z")

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> [@FairyChatMom](#):
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> Well, I’m not an atheist, and I knew from the start that his silly project was going to be a disaster. Do I get to share the blame?

[I’m going to allow this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8sFE8_usN0)

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/10 "2017-06-21T23:53:58Z")

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$40 per ticket and the museum employees watch for, and expel visitors for, “disrespectful language.”

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**Author:** ![mikecurtis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mikecurtis/32/3284_2.png) [@mikecurtis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mikecurtis)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/11 "2017-06-21T23:55:23Z")

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on the website, there is a page that tries to validate the story of the ark by pointing out that there are many flood myths from around the world. The epic of Gilgamesh being one. but then it goes out of it’s way to say that the epic is clearly a work of fiction. Whaaaa? Is it a work of fiction is is it further proof that the story of Noah is true? I don’t get what they’re trying to say with this twisted little bit of info.

mc

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**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/12 "2017-06-21T23:58:45Z")

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> [@mikecurtis](#):
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> on the website, there is a page that tries to validate the story of the ark by pointing out that there are many flood myths from around the world. The epic of Gilgamesh being one. but then it goes out of it’s way to say that the epic is clearly a work of fiction. Whaaaa? Is it a work of fiction is is it further proof that the story of Noah is true? I don’t get what they’re trying to say with this twisted little bit of info.
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> mc

Because God. Duh!

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/13 "2017-06-22T00:14:37Z")

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Ummmm… Ham!

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/14 "2017-06-22T00:14:55Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> …And $40 for a ticket, really? Who pays that much to see a museum?

Well, for a regular museum, you just find shit lying around, give it a polish and put it on display.

For the Creation museum, they had to pay a creative team to make up a story, then pay a construction team to _build_ the stuff. Makes sense that it’s more expensive.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/15 "2017-06-22T00:38:41Z")

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Yeah. The whole world is centered around an amusement park in Kentucky. People are having secret meetings all to sabotage a theme park run by a guy who seems to have never run a theme park. Frankly, it is all Secular Humanists talk about. It is the center of the spiritual battle. Yeah, that’s it.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/16 "2017-06-22T00:41:13Z")

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Well, we (a collective “we”) are pointing out to public schools that taking classes on field trips there would be a tad unconstitutional, and he was planning on that revenue stream, so you could argue that the blind squirrel did find part of a nut.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/17 "2017-06-22T00:53:45Z")

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I actually kinda want to go there to see how bonkers it is. From what I’ve heard, it’s unusual even from a Creationist view.

The flood myths I do think are a good indication that there was a massive flood in our prehistory, one that may have almost wiped out humanity. We are remarkably genetically similar compared to many other species, suggesting some sort of bottleneck.

And even if that’s not relevant, it could be a local flood that harmed a very important early civilization that we are all descended from.

There could even have been some Noah-esque “prophet” who happened to predict the calamity and save people.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/18 "2017-06-22T01:05:01Z")

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“Noah?”

“Yes, Lord?”

“How long can you tread water?”

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**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\
**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/19 "2017-06-22T01:06:19Z")

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When it goes bankrupt I’ll pick it up for a coupla grand and open an upscale seafood restaurant. Catfish King. Or maybe even a Long John Silvers.

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**Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/20 "2017-06-22T01:07:05Z")

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> [@Darren\_Garrison](#):
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> Well, we (a collective “we”) are pointing out to public schools that taking classes on field trips there would be a tad unconstitutional, and he was planning on that revenue stream, so you could argue that the blind squirrel did find part of a nut.

I think most of his revenue planning was delusional. I’m not sure how many nut-parts I’d give him for noticing after the fact that some possible revenue got blocked.

**BigT** , if you’re interested, there are pictorial walk-throughs on the internet, posted by people who wanted to satisfy non-believer’s curiosity without them having to pay forty bucks. That, I’ll call a blind squirrel’s nut.

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