# Ken Ham blames "Ark Encounter" failure on atheists **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 21, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575 "2017-06-21T23:28:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/21 "2017-06-22T01:07:38Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > When it goes bankrupt I’ll pick it up for a coupla grand and open an upscale seafood restaurant. Catfish King. Or maybe even a Long John Silvers. Serve up two of every animal steaks. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/22 "2017-06-22T01:34:23Z")
If you want me to stop in [Williamstown, KY](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Williamstown,+KY/@38.2271894,-85.4950415,9.33z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x88418b45ca0e50f3:0x79e37c4391e0fb49!8m2!3d38.6381245!4d-84.5604977?hl=en) you’d better have the actual Ark there. ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/23 "2017-06-22T01:54:28Z")
Can you see the ark from a public vantage point? Because the only reason I would go anywhere near it would be so I could say “huh, sure is big”. I wouldn’t have any interest in looking around inside or seeing any associated exhibits. If I could see it from a road half a mile away, that would be all I’d bother with. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/24 "2017-06-22T02:00:23Z")
Imagine the smell! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/25 "2017-06-22T02:03:38Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > Among other things, it was not near any other big tourist attractions, it costs $40 a person or so to get into, and even most Christians don’t believe in the concept anyway. 40% of _Americans_ [are](http://www.gallup.com/poll/170822/believe-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx) Young Earth Creationists however; that’s more than enough for someone like this to convince himself it’s the norm among Christians. > [@BigT](#): > > The flood myths I do think are a good indication that there was a massive flood in our prehistory, one that may have almost wiped out humanity. It’s more likely that it’s just because floods are a fairly common disaster. Ancient humans were too spread out for a _single_ flood to even reach them all at once. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/26 "2017-06-22T02:20:01Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > “Noah?” > > “Yes, Lord?” > > “How long can you tread water?” “YOu’re supposed to know all and see all like I said before, and You never even looked in the bottom of that Ark! No! Who’s gonna clean up that mess down there? Not me, I’m tellin’ ya. I’m gonna let all these animals out, then I’m gonna burn down this Ark, and I’m going to Florida or something, ‘cause you haven’t done _nuthin’_ and…it’ raining. All right, me and You Lord, I knew all along” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/27 "2017-06-22T02:23:22Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > The flood myths I do think are a good indication that there was a massive flood in our prehistory, one that may have almost wiped out humanity. That is absolutely in no way whatsoever even remotely plausible. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/28 "2017-06-22T02:31:15Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > It’s more likely that it’s just because floods are a fairly common disaster. Ancient humans were too spread out for a _single_ flood to even reach them all at once. Mesopotamian mythology was known far and wide across the Ancient Near East and in distorted form in the Classic World of Southern Europe. Fragments of a Gilgamesh tablet were even excavated from Har Meggido. Chances are strong that many of the flood myths from the area are retold and distorted versions of the same story found in Gilgamesh and earlier Summerian sources–a localized flood of the Euphrates. ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/29 "2017-06-22T02:33:52Z")
[“God hates freaks!”](http://www.adultswim.com/videos/robot-chicken/noahs-rejects/) (Yes, it’s Mila Kunis.) ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/30 "2017-06-22T03:07:59Z")
nm ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/31 "2017-06-22T03:09:04Z")
> [@Darren\_Garrison](#): > > That is absolutely in no way whatsoever even remotely plausible. Then why did you repeat the same exact thing I said, just specifically referencing Mesopotamia, and the cradle of civilization and where the bulk of humanity lived? If there was a massive flood there, it almost wiped out humanity. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/32 "2017-06-22T04:00:48Z")
I was waiting for the animals to arrive. Did he get all of those? ---
**Author:** ![MagicEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/5daacb/32.png) [@MagicEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MagicEyes)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/33 "2017-06-22T04:02:13Z")
It would break his heart if he knew that the secular humanists really don’t care about his overpriced (and probably very historically inaccurate) ark. Seriously, dude, no one cares. ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/34 "2017-06-22T04:08:37Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Then why did you repeat the same exact thing I said, just specifically referencing Mesopotamia, and the cradle of civilization and where the bulk of humanity lived? If there was a massive flood there, it almost wiped out humanity. The bulk of humanity did not live in Mesopotamia. By the time it was gettign developed into what we learned about in history, humans were already on every continent except Antarctica. World population estimates for 5000 BC are 5-20 million people. The population of Mesopotamia was probably no more than 100,000 which is less than 2% of the lower estimate. And it was only **a** cradle of civilization. It didn’t contribute anything to the civilizations in the Americas or the Far East. I don’t think it contributed much to those in Africa (except possibly Egypt). It was only an important cradle of what became “Western Civilization”. ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/35 "2017-06-22T04:14:26Z")
> [@Projammer](#): > > When it goes bankrupt I’ll pick it up for a coupla grand and open an upscale seafood restaurant. Catfish King. Or maybe even a Long John Silvers. Based on past history, when it goes bankrupt, the state of Tennessee will bail them out, because, y’know, not seafood, but Ham. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/36 "2017-06-22T04:28:16Z")
> [@kunilou](#): > > If you want me to stop in [Williamstown, KY](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Williamstown,+KY/@38.2271894,-85.4950415,9.33z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x88418b45ca0e50f3:0x79e37c4391e0fb49!8m2!3d38.6381245!4d-84.5604977?hl=en) you’d better have the actual Ark there. I’ve been through that area a few times. It’s actually very nice. Personally, I think the idea of an ark-based theme park is a pretty good one. It’s a more interesting theme than a lot of regional tourist attractions have. But fifty dollars is unrealistic (there’s a ten dollar parking fee in addition on top of the forty dollar admission). You can buy a ticket to Cedar Point for fifty dollars. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/37 "2017-06-22T04:32:12Z")
> [@MagicEyes](#): > > It would break his heart if he knew that the secular humanists really don’t care about his overpriced (and probably very historically inaccurate) ark. Seriously, dude, no one cares. To be fair, a historically accurate depiction of the Ark would be an empty field. ---
**Author:** ![pool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pool/32/4152_2.png) [@pool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pool)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/38 "2017-06-22T05:21:07Z")
Hey man if you don’t believe cavemen rode around on Velociraptors with saddles just a couple thousand years ago you need to open your mind. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/39 "2017-06-22T05:23:56Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > [I’m going to allow this.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8sFE8_usN0) Is this a standard quote in your household too? Re: the OP, I definitely want some of the credit. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2017, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575/40 "2017-06-22T05:29:32Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Then why did you repeat the same exact thing I said, just specifically referencing Mesopotamia, and the cradle of civilization and where the bulk of humanity lived? If there was a massive flood there, it almost wiped out humanity. I read in a history book of admittedly questionable veracity that there likely was a huge flood in that area, but it wouldn’t have wiped out most of humanity, it just seriously fucked up their little corner of the world, which was all they really knew at the time. Flooding was a common problem in that area and ultimately destroyed the soil there. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ken-ham-blames-ark-encounter-failure-on-atheists/789575.md?page=3)